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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:31 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
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Yet you advocate treating them as if they don't even exist?

No, I am advocating treating people according to their rank

Americans don't understand this and it is hard to explain it to them

I once even saw an American refer to his boss with his first name


Acknowledging someone's presence has nothing to do with rank or status; it's simple politeness.

What you're saying is that servants and those of supposedly less important social status should be ignored simply by dint of their social status.

And no, greeting someone does not make the workplace more casual. I'm a paramedic, and we're expected to greet our superiors when we see them.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:32 am

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My husband likes to add bacon bits to it. I'll be honest, I'm not much of a fan although I'll eat it if I must.


I like to add cubed ham.

Peas are nice to add too.

American California wrote:Every fucking white person here thinks they're Irish.

I don't. I think I am am American of Sicilian and Puerto Rican descent.

Galmarch wrote:Sweet 16 is strange, at least based on what I've seen on those tv-shows.
To be fair its just a bunch spoiled children throwing tantrums that they did not get the expensive car that they wanted.

Sweet 16 is in some ways very much like the quinceanera, or Bar or Bat Mitzvah. It's a coming of age rite of passage.

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
Yet you advocate treating them as if they don't even exist?

No, I am advocating treating people according to their rank

Americans don't understand this and it is hard to explain it to them

I once even saw an American refer to his boss with his first name that is the problem with the Americans is that they tend make the workplace worse by making it casual

Your customs aren't ours.

If your boss here has invited you to refer to him or her by their given name, it is considered rude to refer to them by their last name.

By the same token, we would not call a visitor to the office by his or her first name unless specifically invited. We would always refer to them as Mr., Ms., or Mrs. (depending on their preference) Lastname.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:33 am

Katganistan wrote:
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I like to add cubed ham.

Peas are nice to add too.


I like peas.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:56 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:No, I am advocating treating people according to their rank

Americans don't understand this and it is hard to explain it to them

I once even saw an American refer to his boss with his first name


Acknowledging someone's presence has nothing to do with rank or status; it's simple politeness.

What you're saying is that servants and those of supposedly less important social status should be ignored simply by dint of their social status.

And no, greeting someone does not make the workplace more casual. I'm a paramedic, and we're expected to greet our superiors when we see them.


By breaking general protocol

A person higher in the ladder should not be addressed by somebody who is lower in the ladder and only the person you are directly reporting too should be addressed, The American does not understand this and thus greets people way above him and way below him, this is not a good thing, it creates casualness, I have seen the Americans using the first name of his boss instead of the words Sir
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:00 am

Katganistan wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I like to add cubed ham.

Peas are nice to add too.

American California wrote:Every fucking white person here thinks they're Irish.

I don't. I think I am am American of Sicilian and Puerto Rican descent.

Galmarch wrote:Sweet 16 is strange, at least based on what I've seen on those tv-shows.
To be fair its just a bunch spoiled children throwing tantrums that they did not get the expensive car that they wanted.

Sweet 16 is in some ways very much like the quinceanera, or Bar or Bat Mitzvah. It's a coming of age rite of passage.

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:No, I am advocating treating people according to their rank

Americans don't understand this and it is hard to explain it to them

I once even saw an American refer to his boss with his first name that is the problem with the Americans is that they tend make the workplace worse by making it casual

Your customs aren't ours.

If your boss here has invited you to refer to him or her by their given name, it is considered rude to refer to them by their last name.

By the same token, we would not call a visitor to the office by his or her first name unless specifically invited. We would always refer to them as Mr., Ms., or Mrs. (depending on their preference) Lastname.


Why would any good self respecting boss ask his inferiors to call him that way ? It seems a little too strange to me, almost alein and weird.

Well generally it is acceptable to go by the customs of the country, something many Americans ignore, which could be termed as another american custom to out rightly ignore the customs and ways of other lands. I would always call any visitor according to his status, if he is the customer than the customer should at all costs be called sir, for the customer is like a god to the organization, as it is because of him we exist

This reminds me, the typical American would be informal with his customers and not adhere to protocol, I have seen them work and let me tell you they are a bit different.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:00 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
Acknowledging someone's presence has nothing to do with rank or status; it's simple politeness.

What you're saying is that servants and those of supposedly less important social status should be ignored simply by dint of their social status.

And no, greeting someone does not make the workplace more casual. I'm a paramedic, and we're expected to greet our superiors when we see them.


By breaking general protocol

A person higher in the ladder should not be addressed by somebody who is lower in the ladder and only the person you are directly reporting too should be addressed, The American does not understand this and thus greets people way above him and way below him, this is not a good thing, it creates casualness, I have seen the Americans using the first name of his boss instead of the words Sir


Like I said, the simple, polite act of greeting someone has nothing to do with rank/status or casual-ness in the workplace.

Where do you live?
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:05 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
By breaking general protocol

A person higher in the ladder should not be addressed by somebody who is lower in the ladder and only the person you are directly reporting too should be addressed, The American does not understand this and thus greets people way above him and way below him, this is not a good thing, it creates casualness, I have seen the Americans using the first name of his boss instead of the words Sir


Like I said, the simple, polite act of greeting someone has nothing to do with rank/status or casual-ness in the workplace.

Where do you live?

It does it depends upon who you greet, it really does matter.

India
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Postby Semia (Ancient) » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:05 am

For me since I am an american, the weirdest thing I do would be......saying the pledge of allegiance in school. It is honestly really creepy.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:06 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
Like I said, the simple, polite act of greeting someone has nothing to do with rank/status or casual-ness in the workplace.

Where do you live?

It does it depends upon who you greet, it really does matter.

India


There's your issue, the US and India have two vastly different cultures.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:07 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
Like I said, the simple, polite act of greeting someone has nothing to do with rank/status or casual-ness in the workplace.

Where do you live?

It does it depends upon who you greet, it really does matter.

India


Ah, so the caste system?

That explains a lot.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:08 am

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Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:It does it depends upon who you greet, it really does matter.

India


There's your issue, the US and India have two vastly different cultures.

Now my problem is that, Why do their ways seem so strange and different ?

I don't even understand them, not I want to or something but it seems so fucking weird and strange,now there should be some difference but why are they so strange ?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:10 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
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There's your issue, the US and India have two vastly different cultures.

Now my problem is that, Why do their ways seem so strange and different ?

I don't even understand them, not I want to or something but it seems so fucking weird and strange,now there should be some difference but why are they so strange ?


We could ask the same of you, to me a number of things about Indian culture make no sense to me and seem wildly outdated.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:12 am

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There's your issue, the US and India have two vastly different cultures.

Now my problem is that, Why do their ways seem so strange and different ?

I don't even understand them, not I want to or something but it seems so fucking weird and strange,now there should be some difference but why are they so strange ?


They're strange because they're unfamiliar to you.

I'm not an American, but I spent a year there, so I at least have some background knowing what their culture is like.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:15 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Now my problem is that, Why do their ways seem so strange and different ?

I don't even understand them, not I want to or something but it seems so fucking weird and strange,now there should be some difference but why are they so strange ?


We could ask the same of you, to me a number of things about Indian culture make no sense to me and seem wildly outdated.

Now this may seem slightly offensive to you, but we aren't the strange people, you guys are...

I have seen allot of foreigners, I generally keep a distance since I never really felt comfortable around them but I have always watched them from a safe distance. Now one can understand the people from China, Singapore, Sri Lanka , Thailand etc but there is no way one can possibly relate to the Americans, their customs and ways are at best described as strange
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:19 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Now this may seem slightly offensive to you, but we aren't the strange people, you guys are...


And who are you to judge who's strange and who isn't?
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:23 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Now this may seem slightly offensive to you, but we aren't the strange people, you guys are...


And who are you to judge who's strange and who isn't?

I have seen them, I seen what they do, how they talk, the way they dress and I have seen how and what they eat ( they eat faster than us and in bigger proportions). I have observed their ways and made my judgments, to me I don't like things that are foreign but at the same time, I am rather curious so I watch them from a distance
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:23 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
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And who are you to judge who's strange and who isn't?

I have seen them, I seen what they do, how they talk, the way they dress and I have seen how and what they eat ( they eat faster than us and in bigger proportions). I have observed their ways and made my judgments, to me I don't like things that are foreign but at the same time, I am rather curious so I watch them from a distance


So they're strange because you say so?
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Postby Independent State AF » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:24 am

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Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Now this may seem slightly offensive to you, but we aren't the strange people, you guys are...


And who are you to judge who's strange and who isn't?


Because India is Stronk.

No.

A weird custom? Ahh...well this one might just be mine, but we like to insult people we like. For example, when I lived up in New York, my step-father who worked for the mob/mafia as a construction guy would always tell about how they insulted the shit out of eachother, and it was basically considered being friendly.
I have since adopted said custom, so if I insult you, it probably means I like you.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:26 am

Independent State AF wrote:A weird custom? Ahh...well this one might just be mine, but we like to insult people we like. For example, when I lived up in New York, my step-father who worked for the mob/mafia as a construction guy would always tell about how they insulted the shit out of eachother, and it was basically considered being friendly.
I have since adopted said custom, so if I insult you, it probably means I like you.


Sounds like C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. Apparently, they were insulting each other's works mercilessly.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:28 am

Bunkeranlage wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:I have seen them, I seen what they do, how they talk, the way they dress and I have seen how and what they eat ( they eat faster than us and in bigger proportions). I have observed their ways and made my judgments, to me I don't like things that are foreign but at the same time, I am rather curious so I watch them from a distance


So they're strange because you say so?

No because to put it the simplest terms, they are not like us.

There movies are strange, the food they eat is strange, they like to eat food without spice and cannot tolerate spice, they cannot drink water, which is not boiled ten times over and can only drink packaged water, some of them drink pepsi/coke with their food, In short their customs are a little strange
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:30 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Peas are nice to add too.


I don't. I think I am am American of Sicilian and Puerto Rican descent.


Sweet 16 is in some ways very much like the quinceanera, or Bar or Bat Mitzvah. It's a coming of age rite of passage.


Your customs aren't ours.

If your boss here has invited you to refer to him or her by their given name, it is considered rude to refer to them by their last name.

By the same token, we would not call a visitor to the office by his or her first name unless specifically invited. We would always refer to them as Mr., Ms., or Mrs. (depending on their preference) Lastname.


Why would any good self respecting boss ask his inferiors to call him that way ? It seems a little too strange to me, almost alein and weird.

What would any good, self-respecting person consider people to be inferior to them simply because those people are that person's employees?

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Postby Independent State AF » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:30 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
So they're strange because you say so?

No because to put it the simplest terms, they are not like us.

There movies are strange, the food they eat is strange, they like to eat food without spice and cannot tolerate spice, they cannot drink water, which is not boiled ten times over and can only drink packaged water, some of them drink pepsi/coke with their food, In short their customs are a little strange

...
....
....Thats literally calling us strange because you said we are.
Also, stop generalizing
Dont like spice? Making alot of assumptions here.
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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:35 am

Independent State AF wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:No because to put it the simplest terms, they are not like us.

There movies are strange, the food they eat is strange, they like to eat food without spice and cannot tolerate spice, they cannot drink water, which is not boiled ten times over and can only drink packaged water, some of them drink pepsi/coke with their food, In short their customs are a little strange

...
....
....Thats literally calling us strange because you said we are.
Also, stop generalizing
Dont like spice? Making alot of assumptions here.

No I find them strange, I find all foreigners to be a little strange, it is not a bad thing to be strange, there is no equivalent word I can describe.

No from what I have seen and from my deductions, they are not able to eat some kinds of masalas, seriously, they even have stomach problems after eating spicy food, there digestive systems are not as strong as ours, The American cannot drink water from anywhere or eat anywhere for he is not used to such things, it is a thing I have seen, the Americans carry packaged water or boil their water and cool it. It is a fact not generalizing here, they call stomach problems caused by spice delhi belly.


Also all foreigners are strange but Americans like the other people from the west and maybe Arabian people are a little more in the strangeness scale as it is difficult to understand their customs and it would be rude to ask them
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:37 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
So they're strange because you say so?

No because to put it the simplest terms, they are not like us.

There movies are strange, the food they eat is strange, they like to eat food without spice and cannot tolerate spice, they cannot drink water, which is not boiled ten times over and can only drink packaged water, some of them drink pepsi/coke with their food, In short their customs are a little strange


And it's exactly the same for us looking at you.
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Postby Bunkeranlage » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:37 am

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Bunkeranlage wrote:
So they're strange because you say so?

No because to put it the simplest terms, they are not like us.

There movies are strange, the food they eat is strange, they like to eat food without spice and cannot tolerate spice, they cannot drink water, which is not boiled ten times over and can only drink packaged water, some of them drink pepsi/coke with their food, In short their customs are a little strange


Indians are strange because I'm Chinese, and they're not like us.

They don't drink green tea, they don't eat steamed fish, they don't wear silk clothes, they don't give each other red packets on Chinese New Year. In short, their customs are a little strange.

You see what I mean? Just 'cause something is different from what you're used to doesn't mean that it's objectively strange.
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