Do you support the death penalty?

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

Although my morals do support the death penalty, I'm not support it simply because it's "morally right".

I support the death penalty.

Dehumanizing? Yes. But what does that matter when a person already has nearly no rights in prison?

When a man kills two of his children and tries to kill another, rehabilitation will fix nothing. Rapists and child molesters usually get killed by their fellow inmates anyways.


I think the death penalty works well as a deterrent to keep us in place in society. Sure there's jail and prison, but then there's a lethal injection that will put you to sleep for the rest of your life.

What if they're innocent? Studies have shown 4% of Death Row Inmates are and so since 1976, as many as 56 innocent people have been killed in America.

But 4% is such a small number whenever we compare it to the other 96%. It's a small price to pay for justice.

Also, by saying it doesn't matter because they have no rights in prison, you're just opening up another debate on another human travesty.

They do have rights, just not as many. A free man can wake up in the morning and do anything around their household, go to anywhere in their country, or even explore the world if they're rich enough. A man in prison wakes up when he's told, eats when he's told, showers when he's told, and sleeps when he's told.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

What if they're innocent? Studies have shown 4% of Death Row Inmates are and so since 1976, as many as 56 innocent people have been killed in America.

But 4% is such a small number whenever we compare it to the other 96%. It's a small price to pay for justice.

Also, by saying it doesn't matter because they have no rights in prison, you're just opening up another debate on another human travesty.

They do have rights, just not as many. A free man can wake up in the morning and do anything around their household, go to anywhere in their country, or even explore the world if they're rich enough. A man in prison wakes up when he's told, eats when he's told, showers when he's told, and sleeps when he's told.

Is it still a small price to pay when they execute you for no reason?

[The Five Galaxies]

What if they're innocent? Studies have shown 4% of Death Row Inmates are and so since 1976, as many as 56 innocent people have been killed in America.

But 4% is such a small number whenever we compare it to the other 96%. It's a small price to pay for justice.

Also, by saying it doesn't matter because they have no rights in prison, you're just opening up another debate on another human travesty.

They do have rights, just not as many. A free man can wake up in the morning and do anything around their household, go to anywhere in their country, or even explore the world if they're rich enough. A man in prison wakes up when he's told, eats when he's told, showers when he's told, and sleeps when he's told.

Woah, hold on. I don't think any amount of innocent lives is worth upholding the death sentence. Even 4%. Not even 1%.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

But 4% is such a small number whenever we compare it to the other 96%. It's a small price to pay for justice.



They do have rights, just not as many. A free man can wake up in the morning and do anything around their household, go to anywhere in their country, or even explore the world if they're rich enough. A man in prison wakes up when he's told, eats when he's told, showers when he's told, and sleeps when he's told.

Woah, hold on. I don't think any amount of innocent lives is worth upholding the death sentence. Even 4%. Not even 1%.

Not even one person, indeed. If one person dies needlessly for something like the death penalty, that's too much. Just imagine the absolute Kafkian horror of being executed for something you didn't do.

[Ripoll]

No, on accounts of uncertainty and inhumane treatment of individuals who no longer pose a threat so that the actions are justifiable. If anything the death penalty should solely be applicable to high profile terrorist leaders.

[Ifreann]

Sentencing someone to death in accordance with the law is not murder.

Define Murder... is Murder the taking of life only outside the law? Are lives protected inside the law more valuable than those not protected?

Murder is a crime, defined by law, and as such its definition varies from one jurisdiction to the next. Generally murder can be understood as illegal killing of a person with malice aforethought. Thus, legal killing of people, e.g. in self defence, in the course of war, in cases of assisted suicide, or in executions, cannot be murder. You can't legally commit a crime(murder) because if it's legal it isn't a crime, savvy?

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Sentencing someone to death in accordance with the law is not murder.

Define murder. I define murder as the intentional killing of another human being, what about you?

See above.

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

Is it still a small price to pay when they execute you for no reason?

Yeah, I think it is. 4 is such a small number compared to 96. My life and your life is irrelevant to... anything really, so what would it matter if we died to keep the rest of the criminals at bay?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Is it still a small price to pay when they execute you for no reason?

Yeah, I think it is. 4 is such a small number compared to 96. My life and your life is irrelevant to... anything really, so what would it matter if we died to keep the rest of the criminals at bay?

Because 'life in prison' would achieve the same thing, and it would leave the opportunity for me to be freed. Luckily, my country abolished the death penalty, or I would be scared shitless. The death penalty is not the only way to deal with criminals.

Personally, I think the number is higher than 4%, because some cases never get looked at a second time. As it turns out, judges are quite reluctant to admit the justice system sending innocents to die.

[Arlenton]

I support it in some cases for sure.

And knowing the NS community I'm surprised by the poll.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

No. The state does not hold a monopoly on human life.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

I know that good people- or at least one- have been improperly sentenced to death. There was a guy who was either on death row or was in jail forever because of a DNA sample mixup some years ago, and he got released when they found out the evidence had been fucked about with due to human error.
Anyway, due to that, it isn't always wise to support the death penalty, if at all.

[Distruzio]

And knowing the NS community I'm surprised by the poll.

Why? It's proven itself time and again to be comprised of rational beings... some moreso than others, admittedly.

[The Five Galaxies]

And knowing the NS community I'm surprised by the poll.

Why? It's proven itself time and again to be comprised of rational beings... some moreso than others, admittedly.

I don't exactly know what this state would be implying...? Could you elaborate a little?

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

I support Norway's justice system; sentencing for a maximum of 21 years in prison. Rehabilitation works a lot better to deter and prevent crime than simple punishment.

[Arlenton]

And knowing the NS community I'm surprised by the poll.

Why? It's proven itself time and again to be comprised of rational beings... some moreso than others, admittedly.

The NS community seems mush more to the left which is why I'am surprised the "for" votes outnumber the "against" votes. Even though it is slightly I'm still surprised. I expected more of a 120ish against and a 75ish for.

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

Yeah, I think it is. 4 is such a small number compared to 96. My life and your life is irrelevant to... anything really, so what would it matter if we died to keep the rest of the criminals at bay?

Because 'life in prison' would achieve the same thing, and it would leave the opportunity for me to be freed. Luckily, my country abolished the death penalty, or I would be scared shitless. The death penalty is not the only way to deal with criminals.

Thanks for further proving my point that the death penalty keeps people in their place.

I support it in some cases for sure.

And knowing the NS community I'm surprised by the poll.

Me too.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Why? It's proven itself time and again to be comprised of rational beings... some moreso than others, admittedly.

The NS community seems mush more to the left which is why I'am surprised the "for" votes outnumber the "against" votes. Even though it is slightly I'm still surprised. I expected more of a 120ish against and a 75ish for.

Those mushy left are obviously confused. Lets mush them further.

[Frenline Delpha]

In certain cases, yes.

Hi, Tyrinth. Haven't seen you before.

[Luziyca]

It is barbaric to kill one of your own species.

What about other species, my sweet little virus?

As for the OP's question, I do not support the death penalty. As a matter of fact, I feel the judicial system in Norway may serve as a better system than, say, the country south of the 49th which has the largest number of incarcerated people in the world.

[Arkteryz]

No, I don't.

The death penalty violates the core basis for the formation of government - protecting net liberty. Executing criminals has been statistically show to have a minimal deterrent effect. Additionally, atleast in America, the struggle to obtain life-ending drugs has become so difficult to resolve that life in prison has become a potentially cheaper proposition.

So why would we execute criminals? It certaintly doesn't provide more liberty to anyone. Pleasure, yes. Humans a species are vindictive species. It feels so good to give a monster what they deserve. Giving pleasure to humans isn't a role of government. It simply isn't.

I say let them rot.

Addt. consider reading up on capital-defense lawyer Judy Clarke who in the past has made the case for life in several high profile cases. She's currently defending the surviving Boston Bomber. She suggests that a person cannot be judged by a single day in their lives. That her clients are humans with complex stories.

[Bandwagon]

No, it seems like this website is full of GOP fanboys.

[Arlenton]

The NS community seems mush more to the left which is why I'am surprised the "for" votes outnumber the "against" votes. Even though it is slightly I'm still surprised. I expected more of a 120ish against and a 75ish for.

Those mushy left are obviously confused. Lets mush them further.

Never said they were confused or wrong, I just happen to strongly support the death penalty and be surprised by the number of NSers who seem to agree.

[SaintB]

Not enough options on the pole to cover my feelings on the death penalty, a simple yes or know won't do at all.

So uhm... sometimes?

[Arkteryz]

So uhm... sometimes?

Can you elaborate as to under what circumstances the death penalty would be the proper course of action?

Not looking to debate, just want to hear what you're thinking.

[Ripoll]

So uhm... sometimes?

Can you elaborate as to under what circumstances the death penalty would be the proper course of action?

Not looking to debate, just want to hear what you're thinking.

Personally it would be high profile terrorists, I don't see how anyone can argue that high profile terrorists should be spared the needle.