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by The Princes of the Universe » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:34 am
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Sosi wrote:"Death is bad, I have to attend a funeral & cry just because."It's almost as if we forget that birth begets mortals.
Striking out hypocritical things.
The quotes are just a person whining on going to a funeral. Really. It's not because you're morals, or any of that, you're not even concerned with death.
Death also doesn't have to go with a funeral.


by Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:35 am
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by New DeCapito » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:35 am

by Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:37 am

by New DeCapito » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:37 am

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by Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:38 am
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by MERIZoC » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:38 am
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:I support the death penalty.
Dehumanizing? Yes. But what does that matter when a person already has nearly no rights in prison?
When a man kills two of his children and tries to kill another, rehabilitation will fix nothing. Rapists and child molesters usually get killed by their fellow inmates anyways.
I think the death penalty works well as a deterrent to keep us in place in society. Sure there's jail and prison, but then there's a lethal injection that will put you to sleep for the rest of your life.

by Rob Halfordia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:38 am

by Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:39 am
That's tension for reform. People ought to put pressure on politicians to serve them or they're incorrectly doing democracy.Fanosolia wrote:Sosi wrote:How pragmatic are you being with such opinions?
I don't know. I hardly think I'm pragmatic.Sosi wrote:It's a brilliant idea. If every crime had a strict consequence there'd be an empathetic incentive not to have so many trivial little laws. Mate, it's brilliant.
Yeah I'm sure that won't back fire on you. Not like an uprising can come from that. Not like people will be paranoid from that.

by New DeCapito » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:39 am
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:New DeCapito wrote:Define murder. I define murder as the intentional killing of another human being, what about you?
Murder:
Noun
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Verb
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
Unlawfully. When it's done lawfully in an act of justice (i.e. the death penalty), it is not murder.

by Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:40 am
Merizoc wrote:I mean, it doesn't, but hey, I used to like to play make-believe too.
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by Mordakia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:40 am
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:New DeCapito wrote:Define murder. I define murder as the intentional killing of another human being, what about you?
Murder:
Noun
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
Verb
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
Unlawfully. When it's done lawfully in an act of justice (i.e. the death penalty), it is not murder.

by Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:40 am

by Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:41 am
New DeCapito wrote:Sure, I can accept that. But it still doesn't make it morally right to kill someone just because some men said you could.
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by Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:43 am
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Sosi wrote:"Death is bad, I have to attend a funeral & cry just because."It's almost as if we forget that birth begets mortals.
Striking out hypocritical things.
The quotes are just a person whining on going to a funeral. Really. It's not because you're morals, or any of that, you're not even concerned with death.
Death also doesn't have to go with a funeral.

by Fanosolia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:46 am
Sosi wrote:That's tension for reform. People ought to put pressure on politicians to serve them or they're incorrectly doing democracy.Fanosolia wrote:
I don't know. I hardly think I'm pragmatic.
Yeah I'm sure that won't back fire on you. Not like an uprising can come from that. Not like people will be paranoid from that.

by Mordakia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:46 am
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:New DeCapito wrote:Sure, I can accept that. But it still doesn't make it morally right to kill someone just because some men said you could.
Our parents teach us our morals, just as theirs taught them theirs. Everyone has their own set of morals. I have the position that the death penalty is morally right, and you have the position that it is morally wrong. Residing on morals unfortunately isn't an argument.

by Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:49 am
Mordakia wrote:
In that case, it seems your morals support valuing one life over another merely because of the decisions of a few other people living a few other inconsequential lives. It is hardly our decision to put a price on a life just like our own.
I support the death penalty.
Dehumanizing? Yes. But what does that matter when a person already has nearly no rights in prison?
When a man kills two of his children and tries to kill another, rehabilitation will fix nothing. Rapists and child molesters usually get killed by their fellow inmates anyways.
I think the death penalty works well as a deterrent to keep us in place in society. Sure there's jail and prison, but then there's a lethal injection that will put you to sleep for the rest of your life.
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by Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:55 am
What do we need if there's no reason to revolt? If there's no reason to revolt in a Democracy politicians will deliberately act against their constituents. Hell, politicians should live in the conditions that the poorest of the poor do. A statesman should be comfortable relative to the least comfortable.Fanosolia wrote:Sosi wrote:That's tension for reform. People ought to put pressure on politicians to serve them or they're incorrectly doing democracy.
We need it though if there's not reason to revolt, which your idea would give a perfect reason too. You don't see how that's extreme in anyway or see how most people won't put up with it?

by Aelex » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:59 am
West Aurelia wrote:Except, you know, they're still Homo sapiens.

by Mordakia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:59 am
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:Mordakia wrote:
In that case, it seems your morals support valuing one life over another merely because of the decisions of a few other people living a few other inconsequential lives. It is hardly our decision to put a price on a life just like our own.
Although my morals do support the death penalty, I'm not support it simply because it's "morally right".I support the death penalty.
Dehumanizing? Yes. But what does that matter when a person already has nearly no rights in prison?
When a man kills two of his children and tries to kill another, rehabilitation will fix nothing. Rapists and child molesters usually get killed by their fellow inmates anyways.
I think the death penalty works well as a deterrent to keep us in place in society. Sure there's jail and prison, but then there's a lethal injection that will put you to sleep for the rest of your life.

by Fanosolia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:06 am
Sosi wrote:What do we need if there's no reason to revolt? If there's no reason to revolt in a Democracy politicians will deliberately act against their constituents. Hell, politicians should live in the conditions that the poorest of the poor do. A statesman should be comfortable relative to the least comfortable.Fanosolia wrote:
We need it though if there's not reason to revolt, which your idea would give a perfect reason too. You don't see how that's extreme in anyway or see how most people won't put up with it?
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