Do you support the death penalty?

[Fanosolia]

I"m split on it, but I lean against it and prefer rehabilitation. I find it odd that stoop to a murderer's level to solve a problem. This is more me being a hippie though than anything else.

I suppose if we must have it, I'd leave it up to mass murder, and similar to that vain. I'm ready to admit there's some people that are very dangerous to keep around after certain crimes.

[Greater Mackonia]

A great many things.

That's not an answer. What would be a less humane form of justice? Please make the answer at least a bit relevant.

I apologise I just did not want to repeat myself. To name one "rehabilitation", certainly it seems less 'humane' to condition a criminal into your own idea of what a 'citizen' should be (that is to make him a tool) rather than simply destroy him with honest intentions.

[Sosi]

I'd prefer all crimes, assuming a quick & painless process. It's a relief that way.

Are you suggesting overdose with Marijuana, which is not possible?

No, something along the lines of poison injection whilst asleep for every offender, the unfortunates.

[Socialist Tera]

Yes, only for mass murderers, mass rapists or terrorist. It is only used on the most serious of crimes.

If you make rape a capital offence then you are providing rapists with a powerful incentive to murder their victims. Like, they would be in a life or death situation and murdering their victim to better cover up their crime would be the means to acquire "life". That's probably not going to be a good thing.

You make a good point but we are talking generally about serial rapists. I should probably so specified. Sorry, but when dealing with a person on that magnitude, death penalty is preferable.

[New Werpland]

If your not being sarcastic I agree with you, saying that people don't deserve the death penalty would be saying that we aren't responsible for what we do.

No I was not being sarcastic. However I hold this for rather different reasons than you do, I find the death penalty simply a far more honest and amoral way of maintaining a necessary level of social discipline, far better than a "rehabilitation" which merely murders the spirit to replace it with one man's vision of humanity.

That I have to disagree on, I think it's perfectly fine and quite necessary as well, to define how a person should act. I don't we should respect someone's lifestyle as a murderous pedophile.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Are you suggesting overdose with Marijuana, which is not possible?

No, something along the lines of poison injection whilst asleep for every offender, the unfortunates.

That's not quick. If you actually know what a lethal injection is, it isn't just one shot and end of story. It's three different shots.

The first one is sodium thiopental, an ultrashort-acting drug. It acts within a minute to make the brain unconscious. From that point on it begins to wear off. Depending on the dosage, the individual may wake up within three or four minutes. The second drug is called succinylcholine. It acts at the point where the nerves enervate the muscles, and it causes an overstimulation of the muscle so you get muscle twitching all over the body. The muscles are then completely flaccid and unable to move. This drug will act for about 10 minutes, but if given in much larger doses it can act longer. The final drug that is used is called potassium chloride. We use that drug to stop the heart beating when we are doing heart surgery and in lethal injection it is used to stop the heart beating, never to start again.

[Sosi]

I'd prefer all crimes, assuming a quick & painless process. It's a relief that way.

Run a red light; get executed. Charming.

It'd take a load off of many backs & it'd change the cultural attitude to death. Judges would have to think less. "Maybe it innit so bad".

[Sosi]

I"m split on it, but I lean against it and prefer rehabilitation. I find it odd that stoop to a murderer's level to solve a problem. This is more me being a hippie though than anything else.

How pragmatic are you being with such opinions?

[The Princes of the Universe]

Run a red light; get executed. Charming.

It'd take a load off of many backs & it'd change the cultural attitude to death. Judges would have to think less. "Maybe it innit so bad."

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I say this in 100% seriousness - You need help. Immediately.

[Ifreann]

...what?

Suicide by crime; if it were possible it would teach people a simple lesson. You needn't hang onto life & can leave the world, don't cling to a life of pain (assuming one in in the circumstances without the choice to commit crime & must).

That is one of the strangest and most ridiculous lines of reasoning I've encountered in 9 years on this forum.

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That's not an answer. What would be a less humane form of justice? Please make the answer at least a bit relevant.

I apologise I just did not want to repeat myself. To name one "rehabilitation", certainly it seems less 'humane' to condition a criminal into your own idea of what a 'citizen' should be (that is to make him a tool) rather than simply destroy him with honest intentions.

Rehabilitation does not make people into tools, unless you're suggesting that being a law abiding member of society is to be a tool.

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If you make rape a capital offence then you are providing rapists with a powerful incentive to murder their victims. Like, they would be in a life or death situation and murdering their victim to better cover up their crime would be the means to acquire "life". That's probably not going to be a good thing.

You make a good point but we are talking generally about serial rapists. I should probably so specified. Sorry, but when dealing with a person on that magnitude, death penalty is preferable.

I don't see how.

[Fanosolia]

Run a red light; get executed. Charming.

It'd take a load off of many backs & it'd change the cultural attitude to death. Judges would have to think less. "Maybe it innit so bad."

Dude... seriously? what are you on?

I;m all for changing the attitude of death, but... really?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

It'd take a load off of many backs & it'd change the cultural attitude to death. Judges would have to think less. "Maybe it innit so bad."

Dude... seriously? what are you on?

I;m all for changing the attitude of death, but... really?

What attitude to death?

[Socialist Tera]

Suicide by crime; if it were possible it would teach people a simple lesson. You needn't hang onto life & can leave the world, don't cling to a life of pain (assuming one in in the circumstances without the choice to commit crime & must).

That is one of the strangest and most ridiculous lines of reasoning I've encountered in 9 years on this forum.

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I apologise I just did not want to repeat myself. To name one "rehabilitation", certainly it seems less 'humane' to condition a criminal into your own idea of what a 'citizen' should be (that is to make him a tool) rather than simply destroy him with honest intentions.

Rehabilitation does not make people into tools, unless you're suggesting that being a law abiding member of society is to be a tool.

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You make a good point but we are talking generally about serial rapists. I should probably so specified. Sorry, but when dealing with a person on that magnitude, death penalty is preferable.

I don't see how.

A person who does that many rapes would never change.

[Sosi]

It'd take a load off of many backs & it'd change the cultural attitude to death. Judges would have to think less. "Maybe it innit so bad."

Dude... seriously? what are you on?

I;m all for changing the attitude of death, but... really?

It's a brilliant idea. If every crime had a strict consequence there'd be an empathetic incentive not to have so many trivial little laws. Mate, it's brilliant.

[Ifreann]

That is one of the strangest and most ridiculous lines of reasoning I've encountered in 9 years on this forum.

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Rehabilitation does not make people into tools, unless you're suggesting that being a law abiding member of society is to be a tool.

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I don't see how.

A person who does that many rapes would never change.

How do you know? That someone has not changed in the past does not mean it is impossible for them to ever change in the future.

[The Princes of the Universe]

I don't see how.

A person who does that many rapes would never change.

Apparently you love the idea of a large pile of dead rape victims since that's where this would lead.

[New DeCapito]

Having the death penalty for murder is hypocrisy. In a way, some judges have murdered more than the murderers.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

That is one of the strangest and most ridiculous lines of reasoning I've encountered in 9 years on this forum.

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Rehabilitation does not make people into tools, unless you're suggesting that being a law abiding member of society is to be a tool.

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I don't see how.

A person who does that many rapes would never change.

So basically encourage killing rape victims because the rapist may be sentenced to death.
I thought you were a okay person. I was apparently wrong.

[Sosi]

Dude... seriously? what are you on?

I;m all for changing the attitude of death, but... really?

What attitude to death?

"Death is bad, I have to attend a funeral & cry just because." It's almost as if we forget that birth begets mortals.

[Fanosolia]

I"m split on it, but I lean against it and prefer rehabilitation. I find it odd that stoop to a murderer's level to solve a problem. This is more me being a hippie though than anything else.

How pragmatic are you being with such opinions?

I don't know. I hardly think I'm pragmatic.

Dude... seriously? what are you on?

I;m all for changing the attitude of death, but... really?

It's a brilliant idea. If every crime had a strict consequence there'd be an empathetic incentive not to have so many trivial little laws. Mate, it's brilliant.

Yeah I'm sure that won't back fire on you. Not like an uprising can come from that. Not like people will be paranoid from that.

[Ifreann]

Having the death penalty for murder is hypocrisy. In a way, some judges have murdered more than the murderers.

Sentencing someone to death in accordance with the law is not murder.

[The Princes of the Universe]

What attitude to death?

"Death is bad, I have to attend a funeral & cry just because." It's almost as if we forget that birth begets mortals.

Death may be a natural part of life, but that doesn't excuse artificially inducing it left and right!

[Mordakia]

Never. Never should we potentially execute the innocent and never should we lower ourselves to the level of the criminals.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

What attitude to death?

"Death is bad, I have to attend a funeral & cry just because." It's almost as if we forget that birth begets mortals.

Striking out hypocritical things.

The quotes are just a person whining on going to a funeral. Really. It's not because you're morals, or any of that, you're not even concerned with death.
Death also doesn't have to go with a funeral.

[Mordakia]

Having the death penalty for murder is hypocrisy. In a way, some judges have murdered more than the murderers.

Sentencing someone to death in accordance with the law is not murder.

Define Murder... is Murder the taking of life only outside the law? Are lives protected inside the law more valuable than those not protected?