Do you support the death penalty?

[Uxupox]

Yes, I'd support the death penalty for murders and child rapists. The only reason I wouldn't support if a worse alternative is present though like for example the Russian Black Dolphin Prison. The black dolphin prison is a role model of a prison, all prisons should strive to be like this one.

[The Five Galaxies]

Yes, I'd support the death penalty for murders and child rapists. The only reason I wouldn't support if a worse alternative is present though like for example the Russian Black Dolphin Prison. The black dolphin prison is a role model of a prison, all prisons should strive to be like this one.

What about the wrongly convicted people that would be put to death?

[Idzequitch]

Comedic, and yet, food for thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kye2oX-b39E

[Zakuvia]

Yes, I'd support the death penalty for murders and child rapists. The only reason I wouldn't support if a worse alternative is present though like for example the Russian Black Dolphin Prison. The black dolphin prison is a role model of a prison, all prisons should strive to be like this one.

What about the wrongly convicted people that would be put to death?

That's a knock on the process of proving guilt and innocence, not of the effectiveness of the penalty itself.

Has there been historic incidents of the penalty being used inappropriately or straight up against the innocent? I'm not stupid enough to say that it hasn't.

Samuel James "Jimmy" Ryce
Michael Taylor
Elroy Chester
Joseph Paul Franklin

Among many others, will not be able to harm any other human beings thanks to the penalty. Frankly, if one side has no issue with bringing out lists of names, I feel turnabout is fair play.

[The Five Galaxies]

What about the wrongly convicted people that would be put to death?

That's a knock on the process of proving guilt and innocence, not of the effectiveness of the penalty itself.

Has there been historic incidents of the penalty being used inappropriately or straight up against the innocent? I'm not stupid enough to say that it hasn't.

Samuel James "Jimmy" Ryce
Michael Taylor
Elroy Chester
Joseph Paul Franklin

Among many others, will not be able to harm any other human beings thanks to the penalty. Frankly, if one side has no issue with bringing out lists of names, I feel turnabout is fair play.

The punishment in this case is irreversible though. There is no way to compensate the wrongly convicted individual. Also those individuals that you have mentioned wouldn't be able to harm other human beings in they were locked up for life so that argument does't exactly work.

[Ifreann]

Not having the death penalty is one of the things I like about my country.

[Tel]

If the system can conceivably fuck up and kill an innocent man, it will happen.

Some people just don't care. They want to see someone die regardless of whether or not they're guilty.

Needlessly vindictive to the core.

[Zakuvia]

Y'know, people tend to tell me I lean to the left a bit much for a self-pronounced Centrist, but boy, do I seem to be the Darth Vader of this thread...

Also, as to the notion that they wouldn't be able to hurt anyone while doing a life sentence, I'd harken to point you to the number of people murdered in prison violence every year. And before you point fingers at the correctional system, let it be known that you're using the same digit I point at the judicial system when it comes to the appropriate sentencing of death.

[MERIZoC]

See, remember now, killing someone is okay if you're the state, because the state has the right to do anything. Or something like that.

[MERIZoC]

Not having the death penalty is one of the things I like about my country.

The booze is another.

[Ifreann]

Not having the death penalty is one of the things I like about my country.

The booze is another.

Yes, though these are rather unrelated.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Capital punishment does nothing but feed into the culture of death and make hypocrites of the justice system.

[Hladgos]

No I don't. Those who cannot be rehabilitated, or committed crimes so brutal that they are unforgivable would live the rest of their lives in prison.

[Prezelly]

Yes I support the death penalty

[Draakonite]

Instead of killing them, why not give them a choice between hard work and death? With this choice favouring work more, due to the death option being rather unpleseant and giving a lenghty amount of time to rethink (starvation)

[Sanctissima]

I support the death penalty, even though I'm usual in favour of rehabilitation rather than punishment.

In my opinion, the simple truth is that once you've taken someone else's life, you lose the right to your own. If the murderer thinks they deserve a second-chance to atone for their crime, there's plenty of organizations that could benefit from organ donations after the execution's done.

[Arcanda]

I used to be completely against it, now I wonder.Justice stooping down to Dark Ages levels isn't civilized nor does it shows would-be criminals the "good way".It can also condemn the wrong people.However, based on the crime, and if people do want it...Maybe I'd agree.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I support the death penalty, even though I'm usual in favour of rehabilitation rather than punishment.

In my opinion, the simple truth is that once you've taken someone else's life, you lose the right to your own. If the murderer thinks they deserve a second-chance to atone for their crime, there's plenty of organizations that could benefit from organ donations after the execution's done.

Look, and there's where you are plain wrong. When you take someone's life, you don't lose the right to your own. That's not how rights work. Kind of in the same way that protesting against the right of protest doesn't lead to you losing your right to protest. Stealing a candy bar doesn't lead to you losing your property rights. Justice doesn't work by exacting revenge. That's a childish measure and only conforms to a misinformed ideal of justice. You can think it works that way all you want, but the simple fact is that it doesn't work that way. Rights are yours, no matter your personal choices. Now, a justice system can limit those rights as a form of punishment, but not take them away entirely. And with the right to live, it's basically all or nothing. So, taking someone's life in an execution is too grave an infringement of the rights of people.

[Ifreann]

Instead of killing them, why not give them a choice between hard work and death?

Basic human decency, maybe?

With this choice favouring work more, due to the death option being rather unpleseant and giving a lenghty amount of time to rethink (starvation)

Oh, I'm sorry, you clearly aren't familiar with the concept of basic human decency.

[Draakonite]

Instead of killing them, why not give them a choice between hard work and death?

Basic human decency, maybe?

With this choice favouring work more, due to the death option being rather unpleseant and giving a lenghty amount of time to rethink (starvation)

Oh, I'm sorry, you clearly aren't familiar with the concept of basic human decency.

This isn't an alternative to Live imprisonment, but one to death penalty.
And why is executing someone more "decent" than giving him the choice between a bullet and selling war bonds over phone?

[Ostroeuropa]

Only in limited circumstances.

For conspiring to subvert democracy while in office. (Coup or election rig.)
For war crimes and crimes against humanity.
For all dictators and ex-dictators, as well as their immediate advisors and staff, as well as their generals and the chief of their police services, both secret and public. (Excepting those who use their time in office to transition toward a democratic state, and those who can provably demonstrate they were conspiring against dictatorship using their office.)

The death penalty should be an action of the people, not the state. (Though it's obviously difficult to separate the two entirely.) It should only be used against members of the state who misuse their power.

[Caislean Scath]

I am in favor of rehabilitating criminals, and that death should not be used as a punishment, but rather to stop the convict from harming anyone further (like people that kill for fun).

[New Werpland]

Yes, I'd support the death penalty for murders and child rapists. The only reason I wouldn't support if a worse alternative is present though like for example the Russian Black Dolphin Prison. The black dolphin prison is a role model of a prison, all prisons should strive to be like this one.

What about the wrongly convicted people that would be put to death?

Well it's unfortunate but trials don't take a short amount of time, if the person really is innocent wouldn't it be likely that something would turn up before he/she is sentenced?

[New Werpland]

Only in limited circumstances.

For conspiring to subvert democracy while in office. (Coup or election rig.)
For war crimes and crimes against humanity.
For all dictators and ex-dictators, as well as their immediate advisors and staff, as well as their generals and the chief of their police services, both secret and public. (Excepting those who use their time in office to transition toward a democratic state, and those who can provably demonstrate they were conspiring against dictatorship using their office.)

The death penalty should be an action of the people, not the state. It should only be used against members of the state who misuse their power.

so a Castro gets the chair while some Pedo gets a life sentence?

[Ostroeuropa]

Only in limited circumstances.

For conspiring to subvert democracy while in office. (Coup or election rig.)
For war crimes and crimes against humanity.
For all dictators and ex-dictators, as well as their immediate advisors and staff, as well as their generals and the chief of their police services, both secret and public. (Excepting those who use their time in office to transition toward a democratic state, and those who can provably demonstrate they were conspiring against dictatorship using their office.)

The death penalty should be an action of the people, not the state. It should only be used against members of the state who misuse their power.

so a Castro gets the chair while some Pedo gets a life sentence?

Sure. Though i'd go with injections or firing squad.