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Postby Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:04 pm

so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.
"Nowadays everybody's got to go to shrinks and counselors, and go on Sally Jesse Raphael and talk about their problems. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, the strong, silent type? That was an American. He wasn't in touch with his feelings. He just did what he had to do. See, what they didn't know is once they got Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings, that they wouldn't be able to shut him up. And then it's dysfunction this and dysfunction that and dysfunction vaffanculo!"

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:06 pm

Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.


Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?
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Catholic Federalized States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:OK, now I believe him. Sort of.

So because they're not reported by international news, means Finland doesn't have much violent crime.


Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate

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Let's see what we have there. As you can see, there were 42,700 prisoners in the Netherlands in 2013. Of those, only 15,660 were Dutch. 19,010 of them were non-western migrants. That means: 36.7% of Dutch prisoners are Dutch, and 44.5% were non-western migrants. The Turks and the Moroccans are not the only Muslim groups we have here, and 11% are 'non-western, other'. What's more, 9.7% are from Suriname, where 13.9% of the population is Muslim. If you add up all Muslims, you'd come frighteningly close to the lower estimate of 30%.


Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.

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Postby Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:12 pm

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Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.


Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?


lel nice strawman m8 u want a cookie

*shooting at a debate on Islam less than two months after the Charlie Hebdo attacks*

"this attack was likely perpetrated by someone of muslim background"

"omg i hope it turns out to be breivik 2.0 so you'll learn not to make assumptions out of nowhere"

*turns out the shooter was of arabic origin*

"haha what were you saying about my assumptions?"

"STOP SAYING "BROWN PEOPLE" ARE GENETICALLY INFERIOR"

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"Nowadays everybody's got to go to shrinks and counselors, and go on Sally Jesse Raphael and talk about their problems. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, the strong, silent type? That was an American. He wasn't in touch with his feelings. He just did what he had to do. See, what they didn't know is once they got Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings, that they wouldn't be able to shut him up. And then it's dysfunction this and dysfunction that and dysfunction vaffanculo!"

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:14 pm

Kenora County wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?


lel nice strawman m8 u want a cookie

*shooting at a debate on Islam less than two months after the Charlie Hebdo attacks*

"this attack was likely perpetrated by someone of muslim background"

"omg i hope it turns out to be breivik 2.0 so you'll learn not to make assumptions out of nowhere"

*turns out the shooter was of arabic origin*

"haha what were you saying about my assumptions?"

"STOP SAYING "BROWN PEOPLE" ARE GENETICALLY INFERIOR"

if you want to learn how to make a clever remark, book some classes with liberty an d lingustiscs


You can explain to the friends and relatives of Indians murdered by morons that their loved ones WEREN'T mistaken as Muslims by the morons.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:16 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.


Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?

The flaw isn't with the people, it's with the religion. And I say that about any and all religions. But let's not ignore that extremism within Islam is a bigger concern, globally, than extremism in Christianity.

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Postby Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:19 pm

Gauthier wrote:You can explain to the friends and relatives of Indians murdered by morons that their loved ones WEREN'T mistaken as Muslims by the morons.


lol ok?
"Nowadays everybody's got to go to shrinks and counselors, and go on Sally Jesse Raphael and talk about their problems. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper, the strong, silent type? That was an American. He wasn't in touch with his feelings. He just did what he had to do. See, what they didn't know is once they got Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings, that they wouldn't be able to shut him up. And then it's dysfunction this and dysfunction that and dysfunction vaffanculo!"

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Postby Cataracta Unkown » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:19 pm

Very sorry to hear this. Anyways, R.I.P. I hope they make it to heaven in peace.

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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:21 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?

The flaw isn't with the people, it's with the religion. And I say that about any and all religions. But let's not ignore that extremism within Islam is a bigger concern, globally, than extremism in Christianity.

Currently, at least.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:22 pm

Kenora County wrote:
Gauthier wrote:You can explain to the friends and relatives of Indians murdered by morons that their loved ones WEREN'T mistaken as Muslims by the morons.


lol ok?


Laughing and gloating that Islam has been once again proven as the sole evil religion of the world. Good for you.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:23 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:The flaw isn't with the people, it's with the religion. And I say that about any and all religions. But let's not ignore that extremism within Islam is a bigger concern, globally, than extremism in Christianity.

Currently, at least.


Currently... matters?

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:24 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:The flaw isn't with the people, it's with the religion. And I say that about any and all religions. But let's not ignore that extremism within Islam is a bigger concern, globally, than extremism in Christianity.

Currently, at least.


And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:25 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Currently, at least.


And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.


Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.

Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:26 pm

Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.


Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.

Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.


Oh right, because a vast majority of Muslim immigrants in Denmark are well to do.
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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:28 pm

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Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.

Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.


Oh right, because a vast majority of Muslim immigrants in Denmark are well to do.


Wt....

Wtf?

You bein real now or is this sarcastic?

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Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate



Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.

(Image)

Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.


Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.
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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:33 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate



Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.

Image

Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.


Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:33 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Currently, at least.


And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.


I actually think I mentioned something along those lines in previous posts (not necessarily in this thread). But considering that won't happen overnight, it's not the discussion to have right now.

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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:36 pm

Catholic Federalized States wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.


Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.

Next to Switzerland, I'm guessing.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:14 pm

Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Oh right, because a vast majority of Muslim immigrants in Denmark are well to do.


Wt....

Wtf?

You bein real now or is this sarcastic?

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.


Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.

Finland is tempered by good firearms education and it being too cold to anything. Poland just doesn't have many guns. Meanwhile, Serbia and Montenegro are bad places to live in the first place.
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Mike the Progressive wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.


I actually think I mentioned something along those lines in previous posts (not necessarily in this thread). But considering that won't happen overnight, it's not the discussion to have right now.


I'd have more faith in such an understanding if the gulf nations were not continually funding the scum of the earth and getting minimal flak, and poverty alone does not rank higher than a factor as far as it is concerned. Defeating poverty and yes, minimizing those who simply hate foreigners is noble as far as goals are concerned, but giving doctrines always shouted out whenever an Islamic atrocity takes place even in exceptionally peaceful nations a free pass as circumstantial is self-defeating to say the least as is ignoring the socio-historical context in Islam, which if payed any heed towards would have at least made it easier to prepare for groups like IS and Boko Haram.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:22 pm

Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.


actually yes

"damn muslim immigra- oh he was born and raised in denmark"

just because your assumption ended up not being entirely wrong doesn't mean it's ok to run around making assumptions and start getting out the pitchforks before you have any actual information. hope this helps.
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Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.


Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.

Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.

What the fuck? Just because Denmark in general has a high GDP per capita does not mean that immigrants in Denmark (particularly those from Muslim backgrounds) don't have socioeconomic disadvantages.
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Certainly sounds like a religion of peace all right.
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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:37 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Certainly sounds like a religion of peace all right.

Dear god. Not this again.

How many times has Farnhamia warned people not to say this?
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Postby Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:38 pm

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Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.

Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.

What the fuck? Just because Denmark in general has a high GDP per capita does not mean that immigrants in Denmark (particularly those from Muslim backgrounds) don't have socioeconomic disadvantages.


There's no such thing as economic disadvantage in Denmark.

Least homeless people of all nations and highest social welfare in the world. You can buy a vehicle on credit by being unemployed in Denmark.

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