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by Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:04 pm

by Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:06 pm
Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.

by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:11 pm
Catholic Federalized States wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:OK, now I believe him. Sort of.
So because they're not reported by international news, means Finland doesn't have much violent crime.
Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rateQuintium wrote:
Let's see what we have there. As you can see, there were 42,700 prisoners in the Netherlands in 2013. Of those, only 15,660 were Dutch. 19,010 of them were non-western migrants. That means: 36.7% of Dutch prisoners are Dutch, and 44.5% were non-western migrants. The Turks and the Moroccans are not the only Muslim groups we have here, and 11% are 'non-western, other'. What's more, 9.7% are from Suriname, where 13.9% of the population is Muslim. If you add up all Muslims, you'd come frighteningly close to the lower estimate of 30%.
Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.

by Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:12 pm
Gauthier wrote:Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?

by Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:14 pm
Kenora County wrote:Gauthier wrote:
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?
lel nice strawman m8 u want a cookie
*shooting at a debate on Islam less than two months after the Charlie Hebdo attacks*
"this attack was likely perpetrated by someone of muslim background"
"omg i hope it turns out to be breivik 2.0 so you'll learn not to make assumptions out of nowhere"
*turns out the shooter was of arabic origin*
"haha what were you saying about my assumptions?"
"STOP SAYING "BROWN PEOPLE" ARE GENETICALLY INFERIOR"
if you want to learn how to make a clever remark, book some classes with liberty an d lingustiscs

by Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:16 pm
Gauthier wrote:Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?

by Kenora County » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:19 pm
Gauthier wrote:You can explain to the friends and relatives of Indians murdered by morons that their loved ones WEREN'T mistaken as Muslims by the morons.

by Cataracta Unkown » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:19 pm

by New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:21 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:Gauthier wrote:
Patting yourself on the back I see. Nothing like the smug sense of superiority when you've proven that brown people are genetically violent eh?
The flaw isn't with the people, it's with the religion. And I say that about any and all religions. But let's not ignore that extremism within Islam is a bigger concern, globally, than extremism in Christianity.

by Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:22 pm

by Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:23 pm

by Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:24 pm

by Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:25 pm
Gauthier wrote:New Jordslag wrote:Currently, at least.
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.

by Gauthier » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:26 pm
Catholic Federalized States wrote:Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.
Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.

by Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:28 pm
Gauthier wrote:Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.
Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.
Oh right, because a vast majority of Muslim immigrants in Denmark are well to do.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate
Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.
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Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.

by Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:33 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Is it also a coincidence that Poland, the country with the least muslims-to-population, has the lowest fire-arm related death count in Europe, while Montenegro, the country with the third highest muslims-to-population rate, has the highest fire-arm related deaths in Europe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... death_rate
Perhaps that's why the number of crimes in the Netherlands is the same as the number of crimes as in Poland, a country with twice it's population.
Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.

by Mike the Progressive » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:33 pm
Gauthier wrote:New Jordslag wrote:Currently, at least.
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.

by New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:36 pm
Catholic Federalized States wrote:The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.
Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.

by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:14 pm
Catholic Federalized States wrote:Gauthier wrote:
Oh right, because a vast majority of Muslim immigrants in Denmark are well to do.
Wt....
Wtf?
You bein real now or is this sarcastic?The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Gun ownership in Poland is the lowest in the EU, so no mystery there. Montenegro's case is coincidence.
Why is it a coincidence? Finland has less firearm rates compared to Serbia and Montenegro, despite Finland having the world's second highest gun ownership rate.

by Herskerstad » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:14 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.
I actually think I mentioned something along those lines in previous posts (not necessarily in this thread). But considering that won't happen overnight, it's not the discussion to have right now.
by Alyakia » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:22 pm
Kenora County wrote:so it looks like the shooter was of arabic/muslim origin after all then, that'll teach thsose islamophobes with their bigoted assumptions — oh wait shit.

by Romalae » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:28 pm
Catholic Federalized States wrote:Gauthier wrote:
And it's also fuelled by socio-economic conditions. If the Middle East in general was well-off fundamentalism wouldn't be such an appealing means of escape for so many people. But hey, it's easier to just ignore that and say their religion makes them blow shit up for lulz.
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.
Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.

by Imperial City-States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:36 pm

by New Jordslag » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:37 pm
Imperial City-States wrote:Certainly sounds like a religion of peace all right.

by Catholic Federalized States » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:38 pm
Romalae wrote:Catholic Federalized States wrote:
Talking about socio-economic conditions when you're talking about Denmark, the world's closest attempt at an equal socialist heaven, is as stupid as you can get.
Sorry, but this is the worst strawman this month.
What the fuck? Just because Denmark in general has a high GDP per capita does not mean that immigrants in Denmark (particularly those from Muslim backgrounds) don't have socioeconomic disadvantages.
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