Jeb Bush Channels Rick Perry: "Oops."

[Rhubenstein]

He is borderline insane.

Not to mention that awful hair

I quite like this quote by him.

...nipples protruding...

-Donald Trump

[Thermodolia]

If is the key word here. We're talking about the guy that read from green eggs and ham, during the funding crisis.

It would be too little too late if he could moderate himself. You can't shut down the government and then try to preach to Democrats about compromise.

Well if he pulls that off, then I guess he's the man for the job.

[Master Shake]

Who isn't after living under Obama's communist bs?

I don't mind the anti-Obama nonsense, but could you at least try not to use words that you don't know the definitions of?

We are currently entering the Dictatorship of the proletariat comrade!

Hail Great Leader Obama!

[Thermodolia]

I don't mind the anti-Obama nonsense, but could you at least try not to use words that you don't know the definitions of?

We are currently entering the Dictatorship of the proletariat comrade!

Hail Great Leader Obama!

Um, have you seen who controls the house and the senate?

[Master Shake]

We are currently entering the Dictatorship of the proletariat comrade!

Hail Great Leader Obama!

Um, have you seen who controls the house and the senate?

Hell yeah we republicans do and won't let go until this nation is restored to its former greatness!

Lame Duck Obama!

EDIT I was just making a joke...I know what communism is...USSR and all that jazz...

[Estva]

Honestly Cruz stands the best chance if he moderates himself, Paul(which I forgot to mention earlier) if he doesn't.

Paul might actually do it. But he would have to get out from underneath his father's shadow. Which is easier said than done.

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

[The United Territories of Providence]

It would be too little too late if he could moderate himself. You can't shut down the government and then try to preach to Democrats about compromise.

Well if he pulls that off, then I guess he's the man for the job.

Absolutely not. He's way to conservative for my taste. I'm hoping for a Paul/Walker or maybe Paul/Kasich ticket. Cruz is a conspiracy theorist, he's an anti-intellectual and he's barely qualified to be a senator. If he wants to fight the good fight for the tea party in congress, more power to him...but he could never win the white house with any of his past views. He makes Reagan look like a RINO.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You think he'd win against China? The man can't even win his timeslot.

He'd do a better job then Nixon and Kissinger...giving up all of America's middle class jobs and manufactoring doomed us to become a service industry paradise where everyone works at fast food or retail...

He's filed for corporate bankruptcy four times. He gets into petty wars on Twitter with random celebrities. His marriages come with expiration dates. He's found himself unable to make money even on a casino in Atlantic City. He's a self-made man, if you consider using one's father's money and business contacts to secure loans and housing deals to be the definition of "self-made". He constantly looks foolish in the press, and is an object of scorn worldwide.

I mean, it's one thing to say that we need a businessman to right things in Washington. It's wrong, but I can at least understand the simplistic reasoning behind it. However, Trump isn't even that great a businessman anymore.

[Estva]

Well if he pulls that off, then I guess he's the man for the job.

Absolutely not. He's way to conservative for my taste. I'm hoping for a Paul/Walker or maybe Paul/Kasich ticket. Cruz is a conspiracy theorist, he's an anti-intellectual and he's barely qualified to be a senator. If he wants to fight the good fight for the tea party in congress, more power to him...but he could never win the white house with any of his past views. He makes Reagan look like a RINO.

Indeed, and he can't really win the Latino vote since he is Cuban, not Mexican, which would only solidify Florida, which to be fair is a good swing state to count on.

Paul is the default imo.

[Master Shake]

Paul might actually do it. But he would have to get out from underneath his father's shadow. Which is easier said than done.

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

Any sane politician should be against the bolded term above. Are we actually allowing this nonsense to happen?

The police already can beat the crap out of us as long it isn't filmed....

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

Any sane politician should be against the bolded term above. Are we actually allowing this nonsense to happen?

The police already can beat the crap out of us as long it isn't filmed....

Do you know what "demilitarization" is?

[Estva]

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

Any sane politician should be against the bolded term above. Are we actually allowing this nonsense to happen?

The police already can beat the crap out of us as long it isn't filmed....

It's not so much a liberal vs. conservative thing as it is a establishment vs. anti-establishment one. Libertarians and progressives have both fought it while the establishment members did little.


EDIT: He supports limiting the powers of the police...

[Thermodolia]

Paul might actually do it. But he would have to get out from underneath his father's shadow. Which is easier said than done.

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

I am well aware that Paul is not well liked with the social conservative crowd. I think the guy is great. i'm all for drug legalization and gay marriage legalization.

[Estva]

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

I am well aware that Paul is not well liked with the social conservative crowd. I think the guy is great. i'm all for drug legalization and gay marriage legalization.

That's great, but it won't win him the nomination.

The only "libertarian" thing I think he can do throughout the whole campaign is an anti-surveillance schtick, which Hillary has pretty universally refused to comment on.

[Master Shake]

Any sane politician should be against the bolded term above. Are we actually allowing this nonsense to happen?

The police already can beat the crap out of us as long it isn't filmed....

Do you know what "demilitarization" is?

sigh...this thread is going at a mile a minute...

I mean police militarization...

Demilitarize the shit out of the pigs!

[The United Territories of Providence]

Paul might actually do it. But he would have to get out from underneath his father's shadow. Which is easier said than done.

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

He doesn't believe in Marriage Equality, he said that is a states rights issue.
He only favors federal legalization of Medical Cannabis
Conservatives love demilitarized police because they don't like the idea of police over reach or big government building local armies to police the people.

He's our candidate for 2016. He doesn't have to hide anything, he should run on those things. Minorities like him, Young people like him, and Conservatives, Moderates and Libertarians like him.

[Thermodolia]

Any sane politician should be against the bolded term above. Are we actually allowing this nonsense to happen?

The police already can beat the crap out of us as long it isn't filmed....

It's not so much a liberal vs. conservative thing as it is a establishment vs. anti-establishment one. Libertarians and progressives have both fought it while the establishment members did little.


EDIT: He supports limiting the powers of the police...

Which is a good thing. We don't need to be in a police state.

[Master Shake]

It's not so much a liberal vs. conservative thing as it is a establishment vs. anti-establishment one. Libertarians and progressives have both fought it while the establishment members did little.


EDIT: He supports limiting the powers of the police...

Which is a good thing. We don't need to be in a police state.

I agree 100%....

I mean do politicians not understand History?

Nazi Germany, Soviet Union..all police states...

[Thermodolia]

I am well aware that Paul is not well liked with the social conservative crowd. I think the guy is great. i'm all for drug legalization and gay marriage legalization.

That's great, but it won't win him the nomination.

The only "libertarian" thing I think he can do throughout the whole campaign is an anti-surveillance schtick, which Hillary has pretty universally refused to comment on.

True, but I'll vote for him. Only because the libertarians can't get their damn act to together.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Do you know what "demilitarization" is?

sigh...this thread is going at a mile a minute...

I mean police militarization...

Demilitarize the shit out of the pigs!

Jesus, I was protesting police brutality while you weren't even a dirty thought crossing your father's mind, and even I don't call them "pigs".

[Thermodolia]

The issue is Paul is not liked by social conservatives, considering he has argued for drug legalization, police demilitarization, and gay marriage legalization. He'll have to hide those views to get nominated.

He doesn't believe in Marriage Equality, he said that is a states rights issue.
He only favors federal legalization of Medical Cannabis
Conservatives love demilitarized police because they don't like the idea of police over reach or big government building local armies to police the people.

He's our candidate for 2016. He doesn't have to hide anything, he should run on those things. Minorities like him, Young people like him, and Conservatives, Moderates and Libertarians like him.

Conservatives aren't the only ones who love the demilitarized police option.

[Estva]

He doesn't believe in Marriage Equality, he said that is a states rights issue.

My mistake. He doesn't support a federal ban.

He only favors federal legalization of Medical Cannabis

No, he supports legalizing cannabis, but only at the state level. Common Republican cop-out.

Conservatives love demilitarized police because they don't like the idea of police over reach or big government building local armies to police the people.

The "tough on crime" issue (which he does not follow, opposing minimum sentences and the like) tends not to lead to that. As I said before, it is more establishment vs. anti-establishment then conservative vs. liberal.

He's our candidate for 2016. He doesn't have to hide anything, he should run on those things. Minorities like him, Young people like him, and Conservatives, Moderates and Libertarians like him.

Apparently. I looked hm up some more and found he could rather easily become a social conservative if needed. Had he actually been a libertarian I might have considered voting for him, but if he runs on such a platform I guess I will vote for Hillary.

[Estva]

That's great, but it won't win him the nomination.

The only "libertarian" thing I think he can do throughout the whole campaign is an anti-surveillance schtick, which Hillary has pretty universally refused to comment on.

True, but I'll vote for him. Only because the libertarians can't get their damn act to together.

If he slants further to the right, as I suspect he will, there is now way I can vote for him. We might agree on police demilitarization and surveillance but that's where our similarities end.

[Liriena]

Well, it was nice while it lasted (?)

[Master Shake]

sigh...this thread is going at a mile a minute...

I mean police militarization...

Demilitarize the shit out of the pigs!

Jesus, I was protesting police brutality while you weren't even a dirty thought crossing your father's mind, and even I don't call them "pigs".

I thank god my dad waited till he was 37 to make me...to be fair my dad was a hippie who didn't even fight the man. Draft dodging coward...I'm glad their is doubt that I might not even be his son...

My father and mother is Hungary!