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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:59 pm

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They lobby like crazy and are not above donating vast amounts of money to politicians...

I'm willing to bet money that UBER will donate heavily to any candidate that will win the White House and thus secure their spot in the nation and continue screwing over the common man...


So start a thread on them. We're way off-topic, and I know, since I contributed to that state of affairs.

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Postby Distruzio » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:01 am

Estva wrote:
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Coming from someone who called the Enlightenment, the French Revolution, and the Liberal/Humanist wave as some of the "Worst things in history" your backwards status is solidified.


I've never shied away from the title "reactionary".

Distruzio wrote:.... errr... the emboldened bits are things you said. Not I. I simply chose not to correct something obviously irrelevant to discussion at hand.

Cowardly weaseling. If I ask you if you are a murderer and you say "I did what I had to do" you are confessing to a murder. Unless you are incapable of reading? I assume not.


What makes you say that?
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Postby Master Shake » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:02 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Master Shake wrote:
They lobby like crazy and are not above donating vast amounts of money to politicians...

I'm willing to bet money that UBER will donate heavily to any candidate that will win the White House and thus secure their spot in the nation and continue screwing over the common man...


So start a thread on them. We're way off-topic, and I know, since I contributed to that state of affairs.


You know...I might just do that due to the volatile subject matter and it would be good to inform the uninformed and raise awareness about this wolf eating my sheep.
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Postby Estva » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:04 am

Distruzio wrote:I've never shied away from the title "reactionary".

You are far more than just a "Reactionary". You are an extremest, harking back to the days when some people on this board would be burnt alive for their beliefs as you cheered in the crowd.
Distruzio wrote:.... errr... the emboldened bits are things you said. Not I. I simply chose not to correct something obviously irrelevant to discussion at hand.

What makes you say that?

For someone who laments democracy's "pathetic slave" status, you sure are afraid to come out and display your true colors.
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:13 am

Estva wrote:
Distruzio wrote:I've never shied away from the title "reactionary".

You are far more than just a "Reactionary". You are an extremest, harking back to the days when some people on this board would be burnt alive for their beliefs as you cheered in the crowd.


....ehhh... not quite accurate but not far off the mark either. While I wouldn't "cheer" I certainly support more authoritarian regimes - if that meant suppression of certain minorities for the good of all then so be it. But outright oppression? Nah. Not my style. I don't go that far.

What makes you say that?

For someone who laments democracy's "pathetic slave" status, you sure are afraid to come out and display your true colors.


Hardly. Note the date. My posting history goes far into the past and that thread is but one in a long string of tirades I've conjured.

Most of the time, nowadays, I simply refuse to take the bait so often lobbed at me. I prefer responding with questions and saving effort for opening posts.
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Postby Estva » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:23 am

Distruzio wrote:....ehhh... not quite accurate but not far off the mark either. While I wouldn't "cheer" I certainly support more authoritarian regimes - if that meant suppression of certain minorities for the good of all then so be it. But outright oppression? Nah. Not my style. I don't go that far.

What greater "good"? Look at what the secular world has brought. Increased quality of life, longer lifespans, greater literacy, greater wealth equality, improved intellectual debate, tolerance, etc. and yet you, for whatever reason, want to get rid of this.

Do you just get off on the idea of silencing atheists?
Distruzio wrote:Hardly. Note the date. My posting history goes far into the past and that thread is but one in a long string of tirades I've conjured.

Most of the time, nowadays, I simply refuse to take the bait so often lobbed at me. I prefer responding with questions and saving effort for opening posts.

The fact of the matter is the reason you refuse to debate is because your entire reasoning, your entire reason for existence, is based on the obsession on a book written by old men thousands of years ago. And a blind hatred for those who do not follow it to the letter. Anti-intellectualism at is finest. For a man who hates the "mob", you sure do want to resort to their lynchings, burnings, and mass executions.

You were acting cowardly in this thread because you knew how foolish, in the light of any reason, your viewpoint is. Your thread of mental masturbation does not disprove this and the sound thrashing you received further reinforces my opinion.

And I feel sorry for the child you must be forcing to whatever backwards nation you are getting the funds for moving to.
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:24 am

Estva wrote:
Distruzio wrote:....ehhh... not quite accurate but not far off the mark either. While I wouldn't "cheer" I certainly support more authoritarian regimes - if that meant suppression of certain minorities for the good of all then so be it. But outright oppression? Nah. Not my style. I don't go that far.

What greater "good"? Look at what the secular world has brought. Increased quality of life, longer lifespans, greater literacy, greater wealth equality, improved intellectual debate, tolerance, etc. and yet you, for whatever reason, want to get rid of this.

Do you just get off on the idea of silencing atheists?
Distruzio wrote:Hardly. Note the date. My posting history goes far into the past and that thread is but one in a long string of tirades I've conjured.

Most of the time, nowadays, I simply refuse to take the bait so often lobbed at me. I prefer responding with questions and saving effort for opening posts.

The fact of the matter is the reason you refuse to debate is because your entire reasoning, your entire reason for existence, is based on the obsession on a book written by old men thousands of years ago. And a blind hatred for those who do not follow it to the letter. Anti-intellectualism at is finest. For a man who hates the "mob", you sure do want to resort to their lynchings, burnings, and mass executions.

You were acting cowardly in this thread because you knew how foolish, in the light of any reason, your viewpoint is. Your thread of mental masturbation does not disprove this and the sound thrashing you received further reinforces my opinion.

And I feel sorry for the child you must be forcing to whatever backwards nation you are getting the funds for moving to.


Fair enough. Are we finished with the threadjack now?
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Postby Estva » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:26 am

Distruzio wrote:
Estva wrote:What greater "good"? Look at what the secular world has brought. Increased quality of life, longer lifespans, greater literacy, greater wealth equality, improved intellectual debate, tolerance, etc. and yet you, for whatever reason, want to get rid of this.

Do you just get off on the idea of silencing atheists?

The fact of the matter is the reason you refuse to debate is because your entire reasoning, your entire reason for existence, is based on the obsession on a book written by old men thousands of years ago. And a blind hatred for those who do not follow it to the letter. Anti-intellectualism at is finest. For a man who hates the "mob", you sure do want to resort to their lynchings, burnings, and mass executions.

You were acting cowardly in this thread because you knew how foolish, in the light of any reason, your viewpoint is. Your thread of mental masturbation does not disprove this and the sound thrashing you received further reinforces my opinion.

And I feel sorry for the child you must be forcing to whatever backwards nation you are getting the funds for moving to.


Fair enough. Are we finished with the threadjack now?

Telegrams perhaps? I would like to hear your response.
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:27 am

Estva wrote:
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Fair enough. Are we finished with the threadjack now?

Telegrams perhaps? I would like to hear your response.


If you prefer.
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Postby Estva » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:29 am

Distruzio wrote:
Estva wrote:Telegrams perhaps? I would like to hear your response.


If you prefer.

Very well.
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Postby Atomic Energy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:35 am

*has a long drawn out conversation about how I'm going to telegram someone with them*

On the topic of Jeb Bush's nomination run, did the racist tech guy have anything to do with this?
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Postby Ezakastan » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:51 am

Vote for whom ever you like both party's play for the same team. :)

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Postby Luminesa » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:19 am

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Ah. So he's for, like, lots of freedom for the market?

(I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound ignorant. I just don't watch a lot of Fox or CNN News. Mainly because all they ever do on those shows is bicker and talk over each other...) :/

I can certainly understand your hatred of the mainstream media, I recommend radio. It's a lot less "arena-like".

But put simply, yes. He doesn't want any regulation and he doesn't want any environmental controls, not even market based solutions to environmental problems. There are a lot of Republicans that like that, don't get me wrong, but there are also a lot of Republicans that do. Likewise, there's a lot of Republicans that are libertarian on social issues. You can't have pro-business and far-right religious people mixed, middle of the road and left-of-center voters are wary of that, not to mention libertarians and progressives-for-jesus.


I would think a little regulation should be needed. Otherwise you'd get chaos. :/
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:21 am

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Postby Atomic Energy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:29 am

Ezakastan wrote:Vote for whom ever you like both party's play for the same team. :)

No, they're really not. This has never been the case. Even in the gilded age, when both parties were firmly in the grasp of corporations, they were in the grasp of different corporations.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:45 am

Atomic Energy wrote:*has a long drawn out conversation about how I'm going to telegram someone with them*

On the topic of Jeb Bush's nomination run, did the racist tech guy have anything to do with this?


did he work for bush long enough to have anything to do with anything? bush announced weeks ago that he was going to release all his emails.
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Postby Alyakia » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:16 am

Distruzio wrote:
Estva wrote:Yes, it was, it was simply better than what opposed it.

Now however, for the Bush family, alternatives exist that are much better then continued servility.


<shrug>

Don't know enough about the alternatives to say this way or that. So few potentials have announced intent that one cannot properly gauge appropriate estimation of their worth.

What I do know is that, for all their faults, neither of the previous Bush's were so bad that a third would warrant fears for the future of America. Jeb holds, at the very least, executive experience (the value of which is purely subjective). Plus, his predecessor's inclinations towards a more dominionist vision of America bode well for him, in my eyes. Absent a proper Catholic, Orthodox, or Anglican candidate, I'd prefer an outright dominionist over a Mormon or a secularist any day.


there is nothing wrong with a secularist and you are a hypocrite if you disagree hope this helps. in fact it should be completely irrelevant either way. :-)
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Postby Distruzio » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:40 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
<shrug>

Don't know enough about the alternatives to say this way or that. So few potentials have announced intent that one cannot properly gauge appropriate estimation of their worth.

What I do know is that, for all their faults, neither of the previous Bush's were so bad that a third would warrant fears for the future of America. Jeb holds, at the very least, executive experience (the value of which is purely subjective). Plus, his predecessor's inclinations towards a more dominionist vision of America bode well for him, in my eyes. Absent a proper Catholic, Orthodox, or Anglican candidate, I'd prefer an outright dominionist over a Mormon or a secularist any day.


there is nothing wrong with a secularist and you are a hypocrite if you disagree hope this helps. in fact it should be completely irrelevant either way. :-)


Hypocrite? How so?
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Postby Scomagia » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:50 pm

Master Shake wrote:Donald Trump in 2016!!!

We don't need to continue the Clinton-Bush dynasties...Obama was a weird deviation from the norm...Carbon Tax and Healthcare taxation is bullshit and unneeded right now...

Your solution to lousy politicians is to elect possibly the worst businessman alive?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:54 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Master Shake wrote:Donald Trump in 2016!!!

We don't need to continue the Clinton-Bush dynasties...Obama was a weird deviation from the norm...Carbon Tax and Healthcare taxation is bullshit and unneeded right now...

Your solution to lousy politicians is to elect possibly the worst businessman alive?


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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:58 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Your solution to lousy politicians is to elect possibly the worst businessman alive?


And we wonder why he's a cabbie.

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