Jeb Bush Channels Rick Perry: "Oops."

[Luminesa]

My money is personally on either Ted Cruz or Paul Rand. Leaning toward Cruz...

Honestly, though, I'm a Republican, and I'm mad at the Republican Party, right now. They're too divided, many of them are like warm milk (bland and shifty), and they can't pick one person to really run behind.

While I do not support any of the Democratic Party's platform, they at least are behind one person, apparently: Hilary Clinton (why, I have no clue. There has to be a better Democrat in there, somewhere...) Nevertheless, the Democratic Party is a lot more united, and that is why they have been able to call the shots for such a long time (though the Republicans finally won some seats in the House of Representatives, this year...)

I wish I had registered as Independent, now...

[Wisconsin9]

My dad drove for Uber for a little bit. Said it sucked and stopped.

Smart man. Uber does not background check their workers or drug test them so that is how they can keep hiring workers and thus "creating jobs". They have raped five women in the last years and killed a little girl and almost her mother n San Fransico. Not to mention if your dad got into a wreck after midnight UBER would have claimed to have fired him at 1159pm so it would be his fault and thus his insurance to foot the bill. UBER doesn't even have multi million dollar insurance policies on their workers vehicles. Not to mention they lobby like crazy and are trying to put all the taxis out of business so they can then raise the price from 90 cents a mile to whatever the fuck they want because they would have a monopoly...I'll shut up before I derail the thread.

Thank god for people like your dad...

IIRC, he quit because the pay was shit, the customers were either drunk or dicks, and the GPS app on the (really spectacularly shitty) iPhone that came with the job sucked.

[Atomic Energy]

My money is personally on either Ted Cruz or Paul Rand. Leaning toward Cruz...

Honestly, though, I'm a Republican, and I'm mad at the Republican Party, right now. They're too divided, many of them are like warm milk (bland and shifty), and they can't pick one person to really run behind.

While I do not support any of the Democratic Party's platform, they at least are behind one person, apparently: Hilary Clinton (why, I have no clue. There has to be a better Democrat in there, somewhere...) Nevertheless, the Democratic Party is a lot more united, and that is why they have been able to call the shots for such a long time (though the Republicans finally won some seats in the House of Representatives, this year...)

I wish I had registered as Independent, now...

You need someone who anyone who isn't an extremist would look at and go "there's a chance". There is no chance for Cruz for most Americans.

[Luminesa]

My money is personally on either Ted Cruz or Paul Rand. Leaning toward Cruz...

Honestly, though, I'm a Republican, and I'm mad at the Republican Party, right now. They're too divided, many of them are like warm milk (bland and shifty), and they can't pick one person to really run behind.

While I do not support any of the Democratic Party's platform, they at least are behind one person, apparently: Hilary Clinton (why, I have no clue. There has to be a better Democrat in there, somewhere...) Nevertheless, the Democratic Party is a lot more united, and that is why they have been able to call the shots for such a long time (though the Republicans finally won some seats in the House of Representatives, this year...)

I wish I had registered as Independent, now...

You need someone who anyone who isn't an extremist would look at and go "there's a chance". There is no chance for Cruz for most Americans.

How come? (I'm just curious. This will be my first time voting for a president, and I'm still learning about the candidates.)

[Estva]

You would prefer an outright theocratic candidate? If so there is no reasoning with you since you base you very ideology on the absence of logic and assertion of your emotional values on others.

Absent a more appropriate candidate, yes. I would prefer that. Not that I've seen much linking Jeb with dominionism (I haven't researched him much either). Take solace, however, in knowing that my preference for a particular type of candidate does not influence my exercise of the franchise as I do not vote, being a monarchist.

But be there a monarchy, would you support the forceful, violent assertion of traditional and cultural values on people who wish not to follow them?

If so, your opinions need to advance a few centuries and you should gather a knowledge of history.

[Wisconsin9]

Okay. Let's go over this point by point.

Building guns, tanks, and missiles only works for so long, because the money has to come from somewhere. Once people get sick of war, or the war is over, the jobs go away. It isn't something that people continually want or need, like cars, or ice cream, or music. It's a short term thing at best unless you want a society focused entirely towards unceasing war.

The healthy foods program is a social cause promoted by the First Lady. Show me any legislation he's proposed or signed regarding school lunches.

What did he have to do with the creation of Uber, or their horrible treatment of their workers and passengers?

Are you just free associating at this point?

What the fuck is Uber?

It's a sort of taxi thing. People driving around in their own cars get notifications about people nearby looking for a ride, and then basically do taxi stuff in their own car while they're out on whatever business they need to get done.

[Distruzio]

Absent a more appropriate candidate, yes. I would prefer that. Not that I've seen much linking Jeb with dominionism (I haven't researched him much either). Take solace, however, in knowing that my preference for a particular type of candidate does not influence my exercise of the franchise as I do not vote, being a monarchist.

But be there a monarchy, would you support the forceful, violent assertion of traditional and cultural values on people who wish not to follow them?

If so, your opinions need to advance a few centuries and you should gather a knowledge of history.

<shrug>

It's what is best for America.

[Master Shake]

Once Obama installs a carbon tax and taxes every carbon molecule that enters into the atmosphere...

Blame Bush...sigh...The man who had a great economy and while we may have been building guns,tanks and missiles, that shit creates jobs and trickles down to the common man. Hell my cab company made bank taking the soldiers around town and then back to base. I guess your one of those guys that thinks that since Obama inherited these problems then it isn't his fault he can't fix them...

And since when has banning soda and chips from schools and building an oil pipeline to the Gulf generated jobs?

Yeah five people to monitor the pipeline once it is complete is a shit load of jobs...Not to mention all the "jobs" Obama has created are basically slaves working for UBER...making 90 cents an hour really is a good "job"...

fucking UBER...

Okay. Let's go over this point by point.

Building guns, tanks, and missiles only works for so long, because the money has to come from somewhere. Once people get sick of war, or the war is over, the jobs go away. It isn't something that people continually want or need, like cars, or ice cream, or music. It's a short term thing at best unless you want a society focused entirely towards unceasing war.

The healthy foods program is a social cause promoted by the First Lady. Show me any legislation he's proposed or signed regarding school lunches.

What did he have to do with the creation of Uber, or their horrible treatment of their workers and passengers?

Are you just free associating at this point?

1. We can sell the tanks and other things to our allies

2. The technology firms who made the smart bombs and other weapons, such as drones, still stay after the war.

3. My little brother was in high school(2012) when all high schools in Orange County banned Soda's and chips. I don't know if it is a funding thing or a social First Lady thing, but that hurts jobs...

4. He could bring down the hammer on predatory companies like UBER Lyft and Sidecar, but he allows then because they force you to file a 1099 and they "create jobs" and thus makes his presidency look like a rose instead of a bloody...well better not good there...

5. I only do that when I'm high and I haven't smoked weed in like 3 months and don't plan on doing so anytime soon..damn butane wax...

[Atomic Energy]

You need someone who anyone who isn't an extremist would look at and go "there's a chance". There is no chance for Cruz for most Americans.

How come? (I'm just curious. This will be my first time voting for a president, and I'm still learning about the candidates.)

Cruz is Texas conservative. Firmly anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-sex ed, and incredibly religious. Alone, that'd be fine, there's a hell of a lot of "progressives for jesus" who would vote for him, as they did for Dubya Bush. But, coupled with his rigid fiscal pseudo-laissez-faire economic policy, that's a combination most Americans would be against.

[Master Shake]

Smart man. Uber does not background check their workers or drug test them so that is how they can keep hiring workers and thus "creating jobs". They have raped five women in the last years and killed a little girl and almost her mother n San Fransico. Not to mention if your dad got into a wreck after midnight UBER would have claimed to have fired him at 1159pm so it would be his fault and thus his insurance to foot the bill. UBER doesn't even have multi million dollar insurance policies on their workers vehicles. Not to mention they lobby like crazy and are trying to put all the taxis out of business so they can then raise the price from 90 cents a mile to whatever the fuck they want because they would have a monopoly...I'll shut up before I derail the thread.

Thank god for people like your dad...

IIRC, he quit because the pay was shit, the customers were either drunk or dicks, and the GPS app on the (really spectacularly shitty) iPhone that came with the job sucked.

I have news for you. Taxi drivers get puked on and customers poop in the back seats all the time. A rude customer is the norm in our line of work...if your dad couldn't handle that and needed a GPS then he had no reason to be driving other people around. Me and my drivers know every street in Orange County and need to know where they are going before we even leave their pick up location.

Also 90 cents a mile is pure garbage...

[Estva]

But be there a monarchy, would you support the forceful, violent assertion of traditional and cultural values on people who wish not to follow them?

If so, your opinions need to advance a few centuries and you should gather a knowledge of history.

<shrug>

It's what is best for America.

It's whats is best for your sick fetish of oppressing others. You hold exactly the kind of viewpoint the world can do without, period.

[Wisconsin9]

You need someone who anyone who isn't an extremist would look at and go "there's a chance". There is no chance for Cruz for most Americans.

How come? (I'm just curious. This will be my first time voting for a president, and I'm still learning about the candidates.)

Too far out to the sides on the political spectrum. Politicians have to maximize the total number of voters they get, which often means winning over a fair number of centrists and moderate opposition voters.

[Distruzio]

<shrug>

It's what is best for America.

It's whats is best for your sick fetish of oppressing others. You hold exactly the kind of viewpoint the world can do without, period.

Well that escalated quickly. Fair enough.

[Estva]

It's whats is best for your sick fetish of oppressing others. You hold exactly the kind of viewpoint the world can do without, period.

Well that escalated quickly. Fair enough.

We can take this elsewhere if you like, because you have failed to provide, in you entire existence here on NSG, anywhere close to the level of defense necessary to violently persecute 80% of humanity, excluding of course the true moral Christians such as yourself.

[Atomic Energy]

How come? (I'm just curious. This will be my first time voting for a president, and I'm still learning about the candidates.)

Too far out to the sides on the political spectrum. Politicians have to maximize the total number of voters they get, which often means winning over a fair number of centrists and moderate opposition voters.

Yes, but it's equally important to get your own base. For instance, Romney won a majority of independents, but Republicans stayed home.

[Luminesa]

How come? (I'm just curious. This will be my first time voting for a president, and I'm still learning about the candidates.)

Cruz is Texas conservative. Firmly anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-sex ed, and incredibly religious. Alone, that'd be fine, there's a hell of a lot of "progressives for jesus" who would vote for him, as they did for Dubya Bush. But, coupled with his rigid fiscal pseudo-laissez-faire economic policy, that's a combination most Americans would be against.

Ah. So he's for, like, lots of freedom for the market?

(I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound ignorant. I just don't watch a lot of Fox or CNN News. Mainly because all they ever do on those shows is bicker and talk over each other...) :/

[Atomic Energy]

Cruz is Texas conservative. Firmly anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, anti-sex ed, and incredibly religious. Alone, that'd be fine, there's a hell of a lot of "progressives for jesus" who would vote for him, as they did for Dubya Bush. But, coupled with his rigid fiscal pseudo-laissez-faire economic policy, that's a combination most Americans would be against.

Ah. So he's for, like, lots of freedom for the market?

(I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound ignorant. I just don't watch a lot of Fox or CNN News. Mainly because all they ever do on those shows is bicker and talk over each other...) :/

I can certainly understand your hatred of the mainstream media, I recommend radio. It's a lot less "arena-like".

But put simply, yes. He doesn't want any regulation and he doesn't want any environmental controls, not even market based solutions to environmental problems. There are a lot of Republicans that like that, don't get me wrong, but there are also a lot of Republicans that do. Likewise, there's a lot of Republicans that are libertarian on social issues. You can't have pro-business and far-right religious people mixed, middle of the road and left-of-center voters are wary of that, not to mention libertarians and progressives-for-jesus.

[Wisconsin9]

Too far out to the sides on the political spectrum. Politicians have to maximize the total number of voters they get, which often means winning over a fair number of centrists and moderate opposition voters.

Yes, but it's equally important to get your own base. For instance, Romney won a majority of independents, but Republicans stayed home.

Yup. Politicians walk a fine, razor-sharp line, the stands are filled with screeching monkeys hurling shit at them, and the other contestants are using those big padded dumbell-looking things they have on some game shows to try and knock them into a pit of sulfuric acid.

[Distruzio]

Well that escalated quickly. Fair enough.

We can take this elsewhere if you like, because you have failed to provide, in you entire existence here on NSG, anywhere close to the level of defense necessary to violently persecute 80% of humanity, excluding of course the true moral Christians such as yourself.

Why take it anywhere else when, seeing that you're familiar with my posting history, it should be fairly obvious you assume quite a lot of hogwash about what I need, or needn't, provide?

You're making assumptions based on an irrational need to exacerbate that which does not exist...

I have neither need nor desire to "defend" a position I have yet, in my "entire existence here on NSG", to make (taking, for instance, your assertions about persecution).

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Okay. Let's go over this point by point.

Building guns, tanks, and missiles only works for so long, because the money has to come from somewhere. Once people get sick of war, or the war is over, the jobs go away. It isn't something that people continually want or need, like cars, or ice cream, or music. It's a short term thing at best unless you want a society focused entirely towards unceasing war.

The healthy foods program is a social cause promoted by the First Lady. Show me any legislation he's proposed or signed regarding school lunches.

What did he have to do with the creation of Uber, or their horrible treatment of their workers and passengers?

Are you just free associating at this point?

What the fuck is Uber?

Something totally irrelevant to this discussion.

[Estva]

Why take it anywhere else when, seeing that you're familiar with my posting history, it should be fairly obvious you assume quite a lot of hogwash about what I need, or needn't, provide?

You're making assumptions based on an irrational need to exacerbate that which does not exist...

I have neither need nor desire to "defend" a position I have yet, in my "entire existence here on NSG", to make (taking, for instance, your assertions about persecution).

You entire ideology as espoused here on NSG has been trying to, in one way or another, justify oppresing those around you, similar to fascists. Whether it be throuh feudalism in all but name, through active, theocratic "counter-revolution" and the denouncement of basic human rights as they oppose your foolish, illogical, and pathetic Christian radicalism.

Let;s just ignore, after all, what you have said in this thread, mere minutes ago.

But be there a monarchy, would you support the forceful, violent assertion of traditional and cultural values on people who wish not to follow them?

If so, your opinions need to advance a few centuries and you should gather a knowledge of history.

<shrug>

It's what is best for America.

You are a tyrant plain and simply, only difference being your strange and ridiculous views shall never hold prominence in the US.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Okay. Let's go over this point by point.

Building guns, tanks, and missiles only works for so long, because the money has to come from somewhere. Once people get sick of war, or the war is over, the jobs go away. It isn't something that people continually want or need, like cars, or ice cream, or music. It's a short term thing at best unless you want a society focused entirely towards unceasing war.

The healthy foods program is a social cause promoted by the First Lady. Show me any legislation he's proposed or signed regarding school lunches.

What did he have to do with the creation of Uber, or their horrible treatment of their workers and passengers?

Are you just free associating at this point?

1. We can sell the tanks and other things to our allies

2. The technology firms who made the smart bombs and other weapons, such as drones, still stay after the war.

3. My little brother was in high school(2012) when all high schools in Orange County banned Soda's and chips. I don't know if it is a funding thing or a social First Lady thing, but that hurts jobs...

4. He could bring down the hammer on predatory companies like UBER Lyft and Sidecar, but he allows then because they force you to file a 1099 and they "create jobs" and thus makes his presidency look like a rose instead of a bloody...well better not good there...

5. I only do that when I'm high and I haven't smoked weed in like 3 months and don't plan on doing so anytime soon..damn butane wax...

1. For less than what we paid for them in the first place. That's making up part of a debt, not getting a return on an investment.

2. Not if they can't find new customers. Oh, wait, the national security state. Lovely.

3. That's something that school districts decide. It has nothing to do with funding from the federal government. And who do you think grows the carrots that ended up in the lunch in place of the chips, or squeezed the apples and created the packaging for the juice? Do you think that maybe they were paid for it? Maybe even a few more people got hired to fulfill this sweet new school lunch contract?

4. How? What hammer? What could he, as Chief Executive, do unilaterally?

5. Seriously, I kind of regret that, because I think that your arguments were actually better when you were still smoking the stuff.

[Distruzio]

Why take it anywhere else when, seeing that you're familiar with my posting history, it should be fairly obvious you assume quite a lot of hogwash about what I need, or needn't, provide?

You're making assumptions based on an irrational need to exacerbate that which does not exist...

I have neither need nor desire to "defend" a position I have yet, in my "entire existence here on NSG", to make (taking, for instance, your assertions about persecution).

You entire ideology as espoused here on NSG has been trying to, in one way or another, justify oppresing those around you, similar to fascists. Whether it be throuh feudalism in all but name, through active, theocratic "counter-revolution" and the denouncement of basic human rights as they oppose your foolish, illogical, and pathetic Christian radicalism.

....

Let;s just ignore, after all, what you have said in this thread, mere minutes ago.

<shrug>

It's what is best for America.

You are a tyrant plain and simply, only difference being your strange and ridiculous views shall never hold prominence in the US.

.... errr... the emboldened bits are things you said. Not I. I simply chose not to correct something obviously irrelevant to discussion at hand.

[Master Shake]

What the fuck is Uber?

Something totally irrelevant to this discussion.

They lobby like crazy and are not above donating vast amounts of money to politicians...

I'm willing to bet money that UBER will donate heavily to any candidate that will win the White House and thus secure their spot in the nation and continue screwing over the common man...

[Estva]

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Coming from someone who called the Enlightenment, the French Revolution, and the Liberal/Humanist wave as some of the "Worst things in history" your backwards status is solidified.

.... errr... the emboldened bits are things you said. Not I. I simply chose not to correct something obviously irrelevant to discussion at hand.

Cowardly weaseling. If I ask you if you are a murderer and you say "I did what I had to do" you are confessing to a murder. Unless you are incapable of reading? I assume not.