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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
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You need to get some perspective, my fungal friend. I have to worry about my people being corralled in quarantine zones, prevented from reproducing, and killed en masse -- but you think you have problems because someone talked in a movie theatre?


If it causes me inconvenience, then it has crossed the problem threshold. Hence, it is a problem.

I find that your argument is causing some inconvenience for others, yet I'm not clambering to have your argument turned into a federal offence.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:34 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:A $100,000 CD fine and 14 months in jail for "disrupting" others watching a movie? Really? :eyebrow:

Oh, the lad is dead serious. He is Infected Mushroom, after all.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:34 pm

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If it causes you an inconvenience, turn around and tell them to shut the fuck up. If they don't, find a cinema employee. Your inconveniences aren't reason enough to create a superfluous fine or the silly regulations you propose. Get real. It's not about you and it'll never be about you.


The fines are not superfluous. They will be substantial and enforced (definitely the regulatory provisions).

The regulations aren't silly, like I said... there will be three mechanisms of enforcement (though there is heavy reliance on the regulatory and private right of action dimensions). I think it was carefully thought out.


That you think there's a problem because, god forbid, someone talks when you're in the theater, doesn't mean there is a real problem. Like here, there isn't a problem. It's just you, yet again, whining about something inconsequential.

Bitch about poverty, or hunger or inequality, or gender issues. Bitch about war. Those are worthy topics to complain about. But people talking at the movie theater? FFS.

Do us a favor, really, and get a blog. I can even point you to some free blog sites, very good ones too. That way, you can complain to your little heart's content.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:36 pm

I dunno. Maybe they should have interference free headphones so silence isn't an issue?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:38 pm

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That's not social justice. That's your selfish perspective.


I'm not the only one who goes to see movies at the cinema.

Yes but your the only one on here bitching about it.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:38 pm

Val Halla wrote:I dunno. Maybe they should have interference free headphones so silence isn't an issue?

Except that that would make the price of a movie ticket skyrocket.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:38 pm

Romalae wrote:
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I shouldn't have to.

You're not entitled to have everything go your way. Just deal with the reality. Sometimes things just suck.

I sure would love to go the full 65 mph on the highway, but there's always traffic when I'm on it, so I can only get up to 30 mph. They should ban drivers who go slow or build me a private lane.

I actually support banning slow drivers and building myself a private lane :p
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:39 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I dunno. Maybe they should have interference free headphones so silence isn't an issue?

Except that that would make the price of a movie ticket skyrocket.

Like it isn't already?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I'm not the only one who goes to see movies at the cinema.

Yes but your the only one on here bitching about it.

No, he's bringing a grave injustice to our attention. A grave injustice that needs to be remedied, no matter what the cost!
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:40 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes but your the only one on here bitching about it.

No, he's bringing a grave injustice to our attention. A grave injustice that needs to be remedied, no matter what the cost!

Yes a grave injustice because children dying in Africa isn't a grave injustice.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:40 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I dunno. Maybe they should have interference free headphones so silence isn't an issue?

Except that that would make the price of a movie ticket skyrocket.


See, this is a non-issue. IM is making it into a big issue but there's no issue here. Cinemas do not need his regulations. The world doesn't revolve around him, as much as he would like it to.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, he's bringing a grave injustice to our attention. A grave injustice that needs to be remedied, no matter what the cost!

Yes a grave injustice because children dying in Africa isn't a grave injustice.

Clearly making movie theatres a better place by means of strict regulation takes precedence, because First World problems are best problems!
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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I'm not the only one who goes to see movies at the cinema.

Yes but your the only one on here bitching about it.


Trust me. I'm not.

A lot of people are adversely affected.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:No, he's bringing a grave injustice to our attention. A grave injustice that needs to be remedied, no matter what the cost!

Yes a grave injustice because children dying in Africa isn't a grave injustice.


That's an unrelated issue.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:54 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes a grave injustice because children dying in Africa isn't a grave injustice.

Clearly making movie theatres a better place by means of strict regulation takes precedence, because First World problems are best problems!

The First World shall rule the world! :p
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Clearly making movie theatres a better place by means of strict regulation takes precedence, because First World problems are best problems!

The First World shall rule the world! :p


It already does...

but why do you bring this up?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:55 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes but your the only one on here bitching about it.


Trust me. I'm not.

A lot of people are adversely affected.

I read the entire thread and you're the only one who seems to be advocating for fines for talking in movie theaters.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Trust me. I'm not.

A lot of people are adversely affected.

I read the entire thread and you're the only one who seems to be advocating for fines for talking in movie theaters.


and therefore?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:57 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes a grave injustice because children dying in Africa isn't a grave injustice.


That's an unrelated issue.

Actually it isn't. You're acting like talking in a movie theater is a grave injustice. When in reality a grave injustice is children dying from hunger and war in Africa and no one here in the first world gives two shits about them. That's a grave injustice.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:57 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I read the entire thread and you're the only one who seems to be advocating for fines for talking in movie theaters.


and therefore?

Therefore you're the only one bitching about it.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:57 pm

The answer to this "problem" is super simple.
If someone is being legitimately disruptive, and ruining your experience, ask the theater staff to remove the disruptive person. That's it. No government involvement, no absurd penalties.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:58 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
That's an unrelated issue.

Actually it isn't. You're acting like talking in a movie theater is a grave injustice. When in reality a grave injustice is children dying from hunger and war in Africa and no one here in the first world gives two shits about them. That's a grave injustice.


Injustice doesn't have a one-to-one correspondence with any single type of incidence.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:58 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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and therefore?

Therefore you're the only one bitching about it.


I'm proposing a solution.

There is a substantial difference.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:00 pm

Idzequitch wrote:The answer to this "problem" is super simple.
If someone is being legitimately disruptive, and ruining your experience, ask the theater staff to remove the disruptive person. That's it. No government involvement, no absurd penalties.


The problem with that under the current laws, is that theater staff have very little power to do so without potentially opening themselves up to liability. For example, the person they remove could sue them for breach of contract (he also paid for the movie ticket and for the length of the entire movie) or for battery (touching him without consent in trying to remove him).

Without changing the law, this isn't a practical thing to rely on.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:00 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Therefore you're the only one bitching about it.


I'm proposing a solution.

There is a substantial difference.

To a problem that doesn't exist and most people don't care about.
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