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by Khoslevistan » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:40 am
by Bezkoshtovnya » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:43 am
Khoslevistan wrote:Meh.
I don't care too much about the guns issue, but to repeal the amendment Is unnecessary(although it is a bit outdated).
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Wallenburg » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:45 am
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:45 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:Every time I come in to a gun thread on NSG, it makes me embarrassed to own guns. Some of the attitudes here towards human life are just... wow.
And somebody please punch me if I ever turn into one of the people that furiously masturbate over the difference between an AKM and an AK-47.
I haven't seen all that much disrespect for human life thrown around here. There are the usual "My right is unlimited" crazies and "down with the government" talk, but the average pro gun person seams very restrained.
The second part is just mean. No one has been criticized for not knowing the difference between an AK-47 and an AKM. The complaint has been people making arguments and proposing ideas that are completely illogical, like the idea that assault rifles are high power weapons, or trying to define sniper rifles to include all rifles. If you want to argue a point you should at least know some of the technical details about what your are proposing.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Kernen » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:47 am
Wallenburg wrote:Did you just claim that the Constitution does not protect freedom of religion? Because if you are, how does it protect gun "rights"?
And if you aren't, explain then what you just said. I suggest using the 9th amendment to check rights rather than following your current logic.
by Wallenburg » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:48 am
by Bezkoshtovnya » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:49 am
No, I am refuting your statement that religion is completely universal with no limitations, when that is false. If you somehow got "religion is not protected at all in the constitution", I admire being able to take such leaps.Wallenburg wrote:Did you just claim that the Constitution does not protect freedom of religion? Because if you are, how does it protect gun "rights"?
And if you aren't, explain then what you just said. I suggest using the 9th amendment to check rights rather than following your current logic.
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Kernen » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:50 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:That's not even considering the shocking amount of people on this forum who thinks it's entirely justified to shoot somebody breaking into your house, because petty crime warrants execution or something.
by Wallenburg » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:51 am
by Kernen » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:52 am
Wallenburg wrote:I just noticed you pulled shit out of your ass.
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:55 am
Kernen wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:That's not even considering the shocking amount of people on this forum who thinks it's entirely justified to shoot somebody breaking into your house, because petty crime warrants execution or something.
Self defense isn't punitive. Please don't conflate it with a judicially sanctioned punishment like execution, because it simply isn't.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Spirit of Hope » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:55 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
I haven't seen all that much disrespect for human life thrown around here. There are the usual "My right is unlimited" crazies and "down with the government" talk, but the average pro gun person seams very restrained.
I don't think that any more than a quarter of pro-gun people in this very thread are fit to own guns of any sort. Maybe that's because they come across as the sort of people who sit by the door, stroking their gun and waiting for the 300 pound burglar to break in, or maybe some sort of SWAT team. They'd also be the people who'd be the most likely to leave their guns lying around the house for that same burglar to break in, steal, sell to some gang member and have them accidentally shoot my dog, or something along those lines.
That's not even considering the shocking amount of people on this forum who thinks it's entirely justified to shoot somebody breaking into your house, because petty crime warrants execution or something. Hence why I think gun ownership is a privilege and not a right, and a privilege that should be afforded to very few. I like having guns, and because I like having them, I want as few other people as possible owning them. There's less chance of me looking bad that way.
The second part is just mean. No one has been criticized for not knowing the difference between an AK-47 and an AKM. The complaint has been people making arguments and proposing ideas that are completely illogical, like the idea that assault rifles are high power weapons, or trying to define sniper rifles to include all rifles. If you want to argue a point you should at least know some of the technical details about what your are proposing.
I think people with no knowledge of the technical details of guns should be allowed to get away with saying "machine guns should be banned" without a dozen people embellishing at length of what a machine gun is. I don't particularly care if it comes across as mean; one thing I'm utterly sick of is people attempting to use their careful study of Wikipedia articles as some sort of high ground from which they can dismiss arguments though incessant nitpicking.
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by Chernoslavia » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:56 am
Sanctissima wrote:Gun Manufacturers wrote:
the FBI administers NICS for 30 states, the rest of the states have their own NICS system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_I ... eck_System
I'd hardly consider the other 20 states' gun registration systems to be adequate.
by Kernen » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:57 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Kernen wrote:
Self defense isn't punitive. Please don't conflate it with a judicially sanctioned punishment like execution, because it simply isn't.
And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
by Spirit of Hope » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:58 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Kernen wrote:
Self defense isn't punitive. Please don't conflate it with a judicially sanctioned punishment like execution, because it simply isn't.
And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by New Tsavon » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:59 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:That's not even considering the shocking amount of people on this forum who thinks it's entirely justified to shoot somebody breaking into your house, because petty crime warrants execution or something. Hence why I think gun ownership is a privilege and not a right, and a privilege that should be afforded to very few. I like having guns, and because I like having them, I want as few other people as possible owning them. There's less chance of me looking bad that way.
by Bezkoshtovnya » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:59 am
Wallenburg wrote:I just noticed you pulled shit out of your ass.
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.
by Autonomous Titoists » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:00 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Kernen wrote:
Self defense isn't punitive. Please don't conflate it with a judicially sanctioned punishment like execution, because it simply isn't.
And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:05 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:I don't think that any more than a quarter of pro-gun people in this very thread are fit to own guns of any sort. Maybe that's because they come across as the sort of people who sit by the door, stroking their gun and waiting for the 300 pound burglar to break in, or maybe some sort of SWAT team. They'd also be the people who'd be the most likely to leave their guns lying around the house for that same burglar to break in, steal, sell to some gang member and have them accidentally shoot my dog, or something along those lines.
That's not even considering the shocking amount of people on this forum who thinks it's entirely justified to shoot somebody breaking into your house, because petty crime warrants execution or something. Hence why I think gun ownership is a privilege and not a right, and a privilege that should be afforded to very few. I like having guns, and because I like having them, I want as few other people as possible owning them. There's less chance of me looking bad that way.
And I am saying I have seen very few people in here, or in other threads, who fit the description you put forward.
If someone is breaking into my house I do hold I have the right to shoot them
I find it funny that you put yourself in the few who are worthy category. I'm not saying you aren't worthy but it always seams to me that when people want to restrict the right to bear arms it is them that should be allowed to have guns and others who shouldn't. The line on who is unworthy is always slightly behind them.
The second part is just mean. No one has been criticized for not knowing the difference between an AK-47 and an AKM. The complaint has been people making arguments and proposing ideas that are completely illogical, like the idea that assault rifles are high power weapons, or trying to define sniper rifles to include all rifles. If you want to argue a point you should at least know some of the technical details about what your are proposing.
I think people with no knowledge of the technical details of guns should be allowed to get away with saying "machine guns should be banned" without a dozen people embellishing at length of what a machine gun is. I don't particularly care if it comes across as mean; one thing I'm utterly sick of is people attempting to use their careful study of Wikipedia articles as some sort of high ground from which they can dismiss arguments though incessant nitpicking.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:06 am
Autonomous Titoists wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
Yes unfortunate bastard don't forget he broke into your house
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Southern Hampshire » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:06 am
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Kernen wrote:
Self defense isn't punitive. Please don't conflate it with a judicially sanctioned punishment like execution, because it simply isn't.
And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:08 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Vitaphone Racing wrote:And I bet you'd be the type of person to shoot whatever unfortunate bastard who broke in through your window, regardless of whether they were armed or not, let alone in any position to attack you.
Self defence lol
Notice what he did was murder, and he got charged for it. That is very different from me waking up and shooting at someone who just broke into my house.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Kernen » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:08 am
by Vitaphone Racing » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:09 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:I haven't seen all that much disrespect for human life thrown around here.
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Pan-America under the United States » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:12 am
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