What is your preferred system of measurement?

[Conscentia]

I'm a citizen of the United States, not a citizen of Earth.

Are you kidding me?
If you live on Earth, you are a citizen of Earth, just as you are a citizen of the United States. Unless, of course, the United States is on Alderaan.

Don't be silly. It's on the Moon. They moved it there during the Cold War, after Buzz Aldrin flew the first ship-load of pilgrims there to displace feast with the native moon men.

[Imyoji]

Are you kidding me?
If you live on Earth, you are a citizen of Earth, just as you are a citizen of the United States. Unless, of course, the United States is on Alderaan.

Don't be silly. It's on the Moon. They moved it there during the Cold War, after Buzz Aldrin flew the first pilgrim there to displace the native moon men.

it's on maRS!

[Bunkeranlage]

Are you kidding me?
If you live on Earth, you are a citizen of Earth, just as you are a citizen of the United States. Unless, of course, the United States is on Alderaan.

Don't be silly. It's on the Moon. They moved it there during the Cold War, after Buzz Aldrin flew the first ship-load of pilgrims there to displace feast with the native moon men.

After all, Kepler said he saw moon men, didn't he?

[Conscentia]

Don't be silly. It's on the Moon. They moved it there during the Cold War, after Buzz Aldrin flew the first pilgrim there to displace the native moon men.

it's on maRS!

No, that's where the Soviets landed when they went off-course. That's why it's called the "red planet". Duh.

[Devvo Mate]

Like literally everyone else in their 20s from England I generally use Imperial for most day to day stuff but metric for science and precise measurement. Like I'd say my fingers are a few inches long but a grain of rice is millimetres.

[-The West Coast-]

Earth is a planet, not a country. I'm not a citizen of it, I'm a member of the species homo sapiens sapiens and a citizen of the United States that inhabits the planet Earth. Earth has no world order that binds me to any laws or boundaries.

You're misinterpreting the statement "I am a citizen… of the world."

It's not saying that Earth is a government, but that it is globalised. And when it is globalised, the need to use an internationally recognised system comes along with it.

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

Even if the US did switch over, you wouldn't go with it? That's just being stubborn.

I didn't learn the metric system, so why would I use it if I have no comprehension of it?

[Conscentia]

I'm 26. I never learned metric in high school because I never took classes that used the metric system. And I'm not a Yank, I was born in the Western USA, Yankees are from New England.

"Yank" is British slang for "American", not a reference to the "Yankees".

[Imyoji]

I didn't learn the metric system, so why would I use it if I have no comprehension of it?

If you have the intention to go to business in other countries, you might at least have a comprehension of centimeters and grams.

[Bunkeranlage]

You're misinterpreting the statement "I am a citizen… of the world."

It's not saying that Earth is a government, but that it is globalised. And when it is globalised, the need to use an internationally recognised system comes along with it.

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

You're seriously using nationalist feelings to justify not using a significantly more efficient measurement system?

For one, not everybody sees the USA as the "free" nation that it is (*cough cough Abu Ghraib cough cough).

[Devvo Mate]

the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

You do realise that at the time literally no country in the world used the metric system yeah?

[Lydenburg]

Are you kidding me?

If you live on Earth, you are a citizen of Earth, just as you are a citizen of the United States. Unless, of course, the United States is on Alderaan.

Earth is a planet, not a country. I'm not a citizen of it, I'm a member of the species homo sapiens sapiens and a citizen of the United States that inhabits the planet Earth. Earth has no world order that binds me to any laws or boundaries.

How old are you?

Most Yanks of matric age I've met had to learn both metric and American in high school.

I'm 26. I never learned metric in high school because I never took classes that used the metric system. And I'm not a Yank, I was born in the Western USA, Yankees are from New England.

Fair enough. I'm just a little surprised you haven't had to do any coursework that requires it, especially your basic physics and chemistry. To say nothing of interior design, automotive studies, architecture, engineering, mathematics...

I suppose it may just depend on your profession. Millwrights and bean counters probably don't need to know metric to survive.

[-The West Coast-]

the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

You do realise that at the time literally no country in the world used the metric system yeah?

Yeah but when the British turned to the Metric System so did there colonies.

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

You're seriously using nationalist feelings to justify not using a significantly more efficient measurement system?

For one, not everybody sees the USA as the "free" nation that it is (*cough cough Abu Ghraib cough cough).

Abu Ghraib was an Iraqi prison that is over a thousand miles from the United States' borders. Its not and never has been, so...

I'm 26. I never learned metric in high school because I never took classes that used the metric system. And I'm not a Yank, I was born in the Western USA, Yankees are from New England.

"Yank" is British slang for "American", not a reference to the "Yankees".

Yankee is a term used to describe Northerners in the United States. It's a term I hate, because its been used as a slur against Americans since 1758. I'm not a Yankee just because I'm American.

[Conscentia]

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

That's not the reason why at all. All the countries of the world could have just refused to follow France's example.
Also, China (which uses Metric) wasn't ruled by any European power, and South America got it's independence from Spain and Portugal long before either Spain or Portugal adopted metric.

Even if the US did switch over, you wouldn't go with it? That's just being stubborn.

I didn't learn the metric system, so why would I use it if I have no comprehension of it?

Obviously you'd have to learn. Or are you going to look a street sign with km on it, and be all like "well... guess I don't need to go there after all"?

[Bunkeranlage]

You're seriously using nationalist feelings to justify not using a significantly more efficient measurement system?

For one, not everybody sees the USA as the "free" nation that it is (*cough cough Abu Ghraib cough cough).

Abu Ghraib was an Iraqi prison that is over a thousand miles from the United States' borders. Its not and never has been, so...

That wasn't what I was trying to convey, but mkay.

But seriously, patriotism isn't a good reason to not switch to a better system.

[-The West Coast-]

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.

That's not the reason why at all.
For a start: China wasn't ruled by any European power, and South America got it's independence from Spain and Portugal long before either Spain or Portugal adopted metric.

I didn't learn the metric system, so why would I use it if I have no comprehension of it?

Obviously you'd have to learn. Or are you going to look a street sign with km on it, and be all like "well... guess I don't need to go there after all"?

China had an open door policy for decades. Dozens of European countries owned key ports across its coastline introducing the metric system.

Earth is a planet, not a country. I'm not a citizen of it, I'm a member of the species homo sapiens sapiens and a citizen of the United States that inhabits the planet Earth. Earth has no world order that binds me to any laws or boundaries.



I'm 26. I never learned metric in high school because I never took classes that used the metric system. And I'm not a Yank, I was born in the Western USA, Yankees are from New England.

Fair enough. I'm just a little surprised you haven't had to do any coursework that requires it, especially your basic physics and chemistry. To say nothing of interior design, automotive studies, architecture, engineering, mathematics...

I suppose it may just depend on your profession. Millwrights and bean counters probably don't need to know metric to survive.

I'm a soldier in the United States Army and a carpenter's apprentice.

[Imyoji]

That's not the reason why at all.
For a start: China wasn't ruled by any European power, and South America got it's independence from Spain and Portugal long before either Spain or Portugal adopted metric.

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Obviously you'd have to learn. Or are you going to look a street sign with km on it, and be all like "well... guess I don't need to go there after all"?

China had an open door policy for decades. Dozens of European countries owned key ports across its coastline introducing the metric system.

Please learn history.

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In conclusion, you are anti-business, anti-capitalist, anti-industry, anti-technological progress, and in the end a Luddite. Thank you for clarifying.

[-The West Coast-]

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In conclusion, you are anti-business, anti-capitalist,anti-industry anti-technological progress, and in the end a Luddite. Thank you for clarifying.

Can you quote where I said that I was anything like that?

[Devvo Mate]

Yeah but when the British turned to the Metric System so did there colonies.

Britain hasn't fully turned metric yet, and only began the process in 1965, after almost all the colonies had already been granted independence. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Imyoji]

In conclusion, you are anti-business, anti-capitalist,anti-industry anti-technological progress, and in the end a Luddite. Thank you for clarifying.

Can you quote where I said that I was anything like that?

The metric system is used by many businesses, by many international cooperation agencies, and pretty much used in places where one can travel to. So unless you have a very valid and sound reason to back your claim that you do not need to know metric, I will call you anti-capitalist etc etc for the rest of this thread.

[Cetacea]

The only reason the rest of the world uses Metric is because the rest of the world was at one time or another conquered under the jackboots of Europe and the United States freed herself from that tyranny and made it so she was not like the rest.
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What is hilarious is that the US continues to use the old Imperial system created by its old English Masters, wereas the rest of us have followed the glorious French revolutionaries and adopted the humanist, anti-royalist Metric system.

Celcius beats Fahrenheit no contest - 0C is freezing water, 3C is a healthy river, 15C is a cool day, 30C is a bloody hot day, 40C is the temperature of my bath, 60C to broil a medium steak, 80C the temperature of my coffee and 100C to boil my potatoes.

Having my bath at 102 and coffee at 175 just seems unnecessarily high

[Conscentia]

You do realise that at the time literally no country in the world used the metric system yeah?

Yeah but when the British turned to the Metric System so did there colonies.

Britain didn't adopting Metric in any major way until after 1965. Britain had already let go of most of it's colonies by then.
Additionally, metrication in the UK is still incomplete (miles are still very much in use). It would be impossible for them to have converted a vast chunk of the world, having not even converted itself yet.

[Devvo Mate]

15C is a cool day, 30C is a bloody hot day

Here in Liverpool 15C is a hot day and 30C is an outdoor sauna.

[-The West Coast-]

Can you quote where I said that I was anything like that?

The metric system is used by many businesses, by many international cooperation agencies, and pretty much used in places where one can travel to. So unless you have a very valid and sound reason to back your claim that you do not need to know metric, I will call you anti-capitalist etc etc for the rest of this thread.

I'm the definition of a capitalist. I live a materialistic life and love to spend money on things. I've never traveled for leisure anywhere other than American states and Mexico. I have fought in Afghanistan, but never vacationed there or anywhere else. I don't KNOW the metric system so I CAN'T use it. That is my simple explanation.

China had an open door policy for decades. Dozens of European countries owned key ports across its coastline introducing the metric system.

Please learn history.

You are denying the fact Europeans and Americans opened ports in China for decades? That's something you need to consult your local library to educate yourself on, for sure.

[Conscentia]

[...]15C is a cool day, [...]

15 C is a cool day to you?

[Imyoji]

The metric system is used by many businesses, by many international cooperation agencies, and pretty much used in places where one can travel to. So unless you have a very valid and sound reason to back your claim that you do not need to know metric, I will call you anti-capitalist etc etc for the rest of this thread.

I'm the definition of a capitalist. I live a materialistic life and love to spend money on things. I've never traveled for leisure anywhere other than American states and Mexico. I have fought in Afghanistan, but never vacationed there or anywhere else. I don't KNOW the metric system so I CAN'T use it. That is my simple explanation.

Please learn history.

You are denying the fact Europeans and Americans opened ports in China for decades? That's something you need to consult your local library to educate yourself on, for sure.

Then please educate thyself in metric. It';s not that hard.

More like a century. Hong Kong and Macau are nice little examples of Europeans opening China's border for longer than mere decades. Besides, the metric system did not get passed around due to colonialism. Rather, it was due to the practicality of the very system.