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Fox News Hosts Video of Jordanian Pilot Being Burned Alive

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:13 am
by Valica
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31013455

So Fox News actually did something I support for once.
By not showing these videos, we are sugarcoating the horrors that they are inflicting upon people.

From what I know, the FCC doesn't have as much control over what TV channels show as they used to.
So CNN, Fox, MSNBC, BBC, AJ, CSPAN, etc. should be showing these videos as soon as they come out.

If people aren't forced to watch what these fucking monsters are doing, they won't react.
That, and by making it clear how terrible they are, we might be able to slow the stream of possible recruits leaving our countries.

And to people who claim we shouldn't show them because that's what they want us to do...
We have fucking 24/7 news stations talking about them every hour.
They are already our main focus in the news, showing the videos would only help rally people against them.

I don't know... the Middle East and Africa are in a bad place right now with ISIS and Boko Haram.
Something has to be done.

What do you think about Fox showing the video, NSG?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:14 am
by Laerod
Well, that's horribly disrespectful of them.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:16 am
by Roski
Laerod wrote:Well, that's horribly disrespectful of them.


Agreed

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:17 am
by Romalae
Laerod wrote:Well, that's horribly disrespectful of them.

Yeah, I agree. Terrible decision. Playing right into the hands of ISIS.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:22 am
by Gauthier
So did FOXNews claim it was Obama's fault, or that it was an All Muslim Barbeque Party?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:27 am
by Farnhamia
Gauthier wrote:So did FOXNews claim it was Obama's fault, or that it was an All Muslim Barbeque Party?

Blaming Obama is the default position. It's his fault for not bombing these people back to the Stone Age when they first showed up, plus anyone else in Syria that we don't like. Doesn't matter that such an idea coming from the White House had a snowball's chance in hell of getting past the House.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:30 am
by Val Halla
Well, as much as people would assume good intentions, would they still show it if it was an American? No, they wouldn't.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:31 am
by Gauthier
Val Halla wrote:Well, as much as people would assume good intentions, would they still show it if it was an American? No, they wouldn't.


Maybe if it was a Democrat they would.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:33 am
by Farnhamia
Gauthier wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Well, as much as people would assume good intentions, would they still show it if it was an American? No, they wouldn't.


Maybe if it was a Democrat they would.

They'd show it on a repeating loop all day, every day if it was an American, regardless of party.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:33 am
by Ostroeuropa
I might buy the whole journalistic duty thing if this wasn't fox news.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:33 am
by Jamzmania
I can understand how they would have wanted people to see the true evil of ISIS, and the OP has a point in that we are already "playing into the terrorists' hands" by talking about it 24/7. Might as we'll show people ISIS' true evil.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:35 am
by Bandwagon
Why hasn't Obama liberated Birmingham from the Muslim rulers? :lol2:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:35 am
by Jamzmania
Ostroeuropa wrote:I might buy the whole journalistic duty thing if this wasn't fox news.

Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:35 am
by The Emerald Dawn
Jamzmania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:I might buy the whole journalistic duty thing if this wasn't fox news.

Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:35 am
by Skappola
I don't think they should have, since this is what ISIS wants us to do, but I don't really care if they do it. The overall effect this will have is minor. If anything, I have to hand it to Fox for showing this on daytime Television. How in the world did they get this by the Execs?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:36 am
by Ostroeuropa
The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.


This.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:36 am
by Farnhamia
The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.

And neither does Fox.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:37 am
by Val Halla
The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.

I'm surprised they didn't show it as ISIS attacking each other.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:37 am
by Gauthier
The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.


If it did you could call the Playboy Channel a journalistic organization.

.....

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:37 am
by Siburria
This is actually something worth debating on.

My stance is that we should air those videos. Not to do so would be pure ignorance; Show the people why we must fight.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:38 am
by Ostroeuropa
Leaving aside Fox news' motivations, I would say our media gives too much attention to Isis.

But since the attention is already there, yes. The video should have been aired to demonstrate the depths of their depravity.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:39 am
by Skappola
Farnhamia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Maybe if it was a Democrat they would.

They'd show it on a repeating loop all day, every day if it was an American, regardless of party.

Farnhamia, no offense, but can we stop making Fox jokes on a thread about a man being burned to death on TV?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:39 am
by Vazdaria
Valica wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31013455

So Fox News actually did something I support for once.
By not showing these videos, we are sugarcoating the horrors that they are inflicting upon people.

From what I know, the FCC doesn't have as much control over what TV channels show as they used to.
So CNN, Fox, MSNBC, BBC, AJ, CSPAN, etc. should be showing these videos as soon as they come out.

If people aren't forced to watch what these fucking monsters are doing, they won't react.
That, and by making it clear how terrible they are, we might be able to slow the stream of possible recruits leaving our countries.

And to people who claim we shouldn't show them because that's what they want us to do...
We have fucking 24/7 news stations talking about them every hour.
They are already our main focus in the news, showing the videos would only help rally people against them.

I don't know... the Middle East and Africa are in a bad place right now with ISIS and Boko Haram.
Something has to be done.

What do you think about Fox showing the video, NSG?

They did what any responsible media outlet would do. Thank goodness for freedom of the press.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:39 am
by Bandwagon
Ostroeuropa wrote:Leaving aside Fox news' motivations, I would say our media gives too much attention to Isis.

But since the attention is already there, yes. The video should have been aired to demonstrate the depths of their depravity.

Exactly, Assad is killing twice as many people every day and what is said on Western TV?
Nothing.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:40 am
by Jamzmania
The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Considering Fox is one of the largest news organizations in America with high ratings, I woilfnt be so quick to dismiss them.

Ratings have NOTHING to do with journalistic integrity.

Well millions of American news viewers must be total idiots, then, considering Fox is the most-watched news channel. And do you have any kind of proof of widespread lack of journalistic integrity besides "lol fox"?