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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:09 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:And to, of course, force purely western values on the people you claim interest in freeing.

I do love me some White Man's Burden.

Oh, purely Western values. It's wonderful that you view ideals such as personal liberty and mutual tolerance as being solely the domain of the West; that's not racist in the least.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:And to, of course, force purely western values on the people you claim interest in freeing.

I do love me some White Man's Burden.

Oh, purely Western values. It's wonderful that you view ideals such as personal liberty and mutual tolerance as being solely the domain of the West; that's not racist in the least.

Personal liberty in an area that values Islamic modesty.

You're projecting hard enough to open your own IMAX theater here.

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Postby Lleu llaw Gyffes » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:12 pm

Fox DOES broadcast the burnings.
Fox does NOT broadcast the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.

Fox will show what ISIL want to be shown.
Fox will suppress what ISIl wants to suppress.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:12 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:Personal liberty in an area that values Islamic modesty.

Ah. You're one of those.
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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:13 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Oh, purely Western values. It's wonderful that you view ideals such as personal liberty and mutual tolerance as being solely the domain of the West; that's not racist in the least.

Personal liberty in an area that values Islamic modesty.

You're projecting hard enough to open your own IMAX theater here.

:rofl:

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:13 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Personal liberty in an area that values Islamic modesty.

Ah. You're one of those.

Yeah. I'm one of those crazy cats that believes cultures can develop in tandem along different paths. Silly me for not thinking that one view is an absolute good while another is an absolute evil.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:27 pm

In response to this grave crime against humanity,

I would like to see Fox News taken off the airwaves and cast into the fires of Mount Doom.

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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:27 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Ah. You're one of those.

Yeah. I'm one of those crazy cats that believes cultures can develop in tandem along different paths. Silly me for not thinking that one view is an absolute good while another is an absolute evil.

Relativism disgusts me, you know that by saying that you lower the standard of human life?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:28 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:And to, of course, force purely western values on the people you claim interest in freeing.

I do love me some White Man's Burden.

Oh, purely Western values. It's wonderful that you view ideals such as personal liberty and mutual tolerance as being solely the domain of the West; that's not racist in the least.

Western notion of personal liberty comes out of "the enlightenment", is there an non western world equivalent?
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Postby Margno » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:29 pm

Sure. As soon as you let us see all the videos of cops beating people to death you suppressed because they might incite lawless activity.
Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:31 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:In response to this grave crime against humanity,

I would like to see Fox News taken off the airwaves and cast into the fires of Mount Doom.

It wasn't broadcast on the airwaves.
It was posted on their website. In quite a low-key posting, to be honest.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:31 pm

New Werpland wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Yeah. I'm one of those crazy cats that believes cultures can develop in tandem along different paths. Silly me for not thinking that one view is an absolute good while another is an absolute evil.

Relativism disgusts me, you know that by saying that you lower the standard of human life?

You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:33 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:In response to this grave crime against humanity,

I would like to see Fox News taken off the airwaves and cast into the fires of Mount Doom.

It wasn't broadcast on the airwaves.
It was posted on their website. In quite a low-key posting, to be honest.


I see...

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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:37 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Relativism disgusts me, you know that by saying that you lower the standard of human life?

You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

I hope you realize that your saying "I don't give a shit about anything".

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:38 pm

New Werpland wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

I hope you realize that your saying "I don't give a shit about anything".

No, I'm saying:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:40 pm

I think we should petition the mods to have the title changed from "Fox News Airs" to "Fox News hosts online".
Or wait to see if OP realises this is pretty misleading.
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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:44 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Werpland wrote:I hope you realize that your saying "I don't give a shit about anything".

No, I'm saying:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.


Exactly your saying "I don't give a shit about anything/anyone".

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:45 pm

New Werpland wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:No, I'm saying:


Exactly your saying "I don't give a shit about anything/anyone".

Which is precisely why I joined a military and went and got my legs removed. Because I hate them SO much I decided to try and help them.

Shockingly one can care about people, and realize that they need to have room to grow on their own. Free from the machinations of a bunch of people who don't give a shit.

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:45 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I think we should petition the mods to have the title changed from "Fox News Airs" to "Fox News hosts online".
Or wait to see if OP realises this is pretty misleading.

Like that? Might as well, as that's been stated is the more truthful of the two statements.

Alas. A long, thought-out post and no discussion on it. No one ever wants to talk to me in these things. :P (Keep it chilly, folks - keep it civil, thanks.)

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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:48 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Werpland wrote:
Exactly your saying "I don't give a shit about anything/anyone".

Which is precisely why I joined a military and went and got my legs removed. Because I hate them SO much I decided to try and help them.

Shockingly one can care about people, and realize that they need to have room to grow on their own. Free from the machinations of a bunch of people who don't give a shit.


Then why are you saying that we should let them treat women like objects and stone eachother? Is that their way of showing affection?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:51 pm

New Werpland wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Which is precisely why I joined a military and went and got my legs removed. Because I hate them SO much I decided to try and help them.

Shockingly one can care about people, and realize that they need to have room to grow on their own. Free from the machinations of a bunch of people who don't give a shit.


Then why are you saying that we should let them treat women like objects and other shit just because that's their "values".

If you don't value your freedom, I can't make you value it.

The first step is realizing you have a problem, not every culture gets to that step.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:51 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Relativism disgusts me, you know that by saying that you lower the standard of human life?

You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

Well theN you wind up with folks putting other folks in a cage and set fire to them. Or slaughterING christians for being christian. Do we have any obligation to protect the innocent?
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby New Werpland » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:52 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
New Werpland wrote:
Then why are you saying that we should let them treat women like objects and other shit just because that's their "values".

If you don't value your freedom, I can't make you value it.

The first step is realizing you have a problem, not every culture gets to that step.


And I guess I would be evil if I valued other people's freedom.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:53 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:You assume that I think human life has any intrinsic value. If an area of people all want to think along a suicidal line, they should be free to do so. If they decide to start launching nuclear weapons into other countries, that's when we should be concerned.

If they want to form a rebellion and fight against their own government, again, they should be free to do so.

But to go into a country to whack one mole only to have three more pop up? You're not being a solution, you're being the problem.

Maybe if they had a few decades free of "Western Freedom Rodeo" they wouldn't feel like shooting at us every time we visit.

Well theN you wind up with folks putting other folks in a cage and set fire to them. Or slaughterING christians for being christian. Do we have any obligation to protect the innocent?

To a point. Is it state-sponsored violence?

Does Jordan have a responsibility to come to Missouri to stop us from shooting black people?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:56 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Well theN you wind up with folks putting other folks in a cage and set fire to them. Or slaughterING christians for being christian. Do we have any obligation to protect the innocent?

To a point. Is it state-sponsored violence?

Does Jordan have a responsibility to come to Missouri to stop us from shooting black people?

The fact that these atrocities are being committed by a non-state actor is probably a greater endorsement of intervention than were they a state - as there is no state to hold accountable.
One reason I wonder if we should allow the Assad government to survive the Syrian civil war, if just to hold Assad's government to account.
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