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what do you not like about Obama

He is too Right Wing
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23%
He is too Left Wing
83
16%
His foreign policy sucks
126
24%
I don't like him for reasons not properly articulated in the above choices (if so post about it below)
104
20%
too black 4 me
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18%
 
Total votes : 530

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:08 am

Merizoc wrote:He killed my family, stole my dog, and ate the last chocolate-chip cookie.

That monster!

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:08 am

I hate Obama because he won't enforce gravedigging laws.
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Serrenissima
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Postby Serrenissima » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:21 am

I don't hate him. He's certainly no worse than the guy before him.

He has no clue how economics work, and won't stand up against religious nutcases, but that's hardly new for an American politician.

One thing has been consistent with American presidents - regardless of party, the next one will always dig a bigger economic hole than the previous one.
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Vaticantopia
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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:30 am

Genivaria wrote:
Vaticantopia wrote:We need another Ronald Reagan to pull us out of the hole Odumba left this country in.

Ronald Reagan put us in a hole.

WTF are you talking about? He was by far our best president.

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Grafulk Shayneshall
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Postby Grafulk Shayneshall » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:33 am

He's smart, but incompetent.

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Vaticantopia
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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:35 am

Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:He's smart, but incompetent.

Saying it like that makes you incompetent.

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Postby Serrenissima » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:35 am

Vaticantopia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Ronald Reagan put us in a hole.

WTF are you talking about? He was by far our best president.


Reagan started your downward economic spiral by ramping up military spending.

Reagan had a plan (and it worked) to accelerate the bankruptcy of the Soviet Union. However, he made the mistake of believing his successors would curb his spending patterns, rather than continue and exacerbate them. Reagan's plan may ultimately bankrupt the USA - it will just be several decades after it got the Soviets.

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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:38 am

Serrenissima wrote:
Vaticantopia wrote:WTF are you talking about? He was by far our best president.


Reagan started your downward economic spiral by ramping up military spending.

Reagan had a plan (and it worked) to accelerate the bankruptcy of the Soviet Union. However, he made the mistake of believing his successors would curb his spending patterns, rather than continue and exacerbate them. Reagan's plan may ultimately bankrupt the USA - it will just be several decades after it got the Soviets.

It's not like Obama's doing anything to help.

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Postby Norstal » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:38 am

Serrenissima wrote:I don't hate him. He's certainly no worse than Shrub before him.

He has no clue how economics work, and won't stand up against religious nutcases, but that's hardly new for an American politician.

One thing has been consistent with American presidents - regardless of party, the next one will always dig a bigger economic hole than the previous one.

And I'm guessing, unknown stranger on the internet, that you hold the secrets to economics.
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Postby Serrenissima » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:39 am

Vaticantopia wrote:
Serrenissima wrote:
Reagan started your downward economic spiral by ramping up military spending.

Reagan had a plan (and it worked) to accelerate the bankruptcy of the Soviet Union. However, he made the mistake of believing his successors would curb his spending patterns, rather than continue and exacerbate them. Reagan's plan may ultimately bankrupt the USA - it will just be several decades after it got the Soviets.

It's not like Obama's doing anything to help.


Well, duh. Like I said, each successive president has continued the downward spiral.

And I'm guessing, unknown stranger on the internet, that you hold the secrets to economics.


It's no secret. Friedrich von Hayek was right, John Maynard Keynes was wrong. Current western society is barrelling down a Keynesian railroad track, but the bridge is out ahead.
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Postby Grafulk Shayneshall » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:41 am

Vaticantopia wrote:
Grafulk Shayneshall wrote:He's smart, but incompetent.

Saying it like that makes you incompetent.

Care to explain?

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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:41 am

Serrenissima wrote:
Vaticantopia wrote:It's not like Obama's doing anything to help.


Well, duh. Like I said, each successive president has continued the downward spiral.

I liked Reagan because of his foreign policy and no-nonsense attitude.

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Postby Norstal » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:42 am

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Abortion has been in place since the 1970s people need to get the fuck over it. Besides the US is not going to be some magical wonderland like Ireland which has a history of letting women die because they refuse to operate on them to save their lives (in fear of hurting the fetus).

I'd be so happy if we could bring the Irish laws over here.

You'd be for socialized medicine? Interesting.

You know there's a reason why they banned abortion. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:43 am

Serrenissima wrote:
It's no secret. Friedrich von Hayek was right, John Maynard Keynes was wrong. Current western society is barrelling down a Keynesian railroad track, but the bridge is out ahead.

Unemployment is decreasing and GDP is rising. I frankly want to keep it this way.
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Postby Yegania » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:47 am

I'm just going to file this entire thing under "wish I hadn't clicked it" and slowly back away.

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Vaticantopia
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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:48 am

Yegania wrote:I'm just going to file this entire thing under "wish I hadn't clicked it" and slowly back away.

Probably a good idea.

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Grafulk Shayneshall
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Postby Grafulk Shayneshall » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:48 am

Vaticantopia wrote:
Serrenissima wrote:
Well, duh. Like I said, each successive president has continued the downward spiral.

I liked Reagan because of his foreign policy and no-nonsense attitude.

Like Iran-Contra.
Yay for arming someone who in all likelyhood you support war with....
And drug deals.
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Postby Galmarch » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:53 am

I do not hate Obama, I like his work on health care.
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Postby Vaticantopia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:58 am

Galmarch wrote:I do not hate Obama, I like his work on health care.

Yeah, ¨healthcare¨.

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Serrenissima
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Postby Serrenissima » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:39 am

Norstal wrote:
Serrenissima wrote:
It's no secret. Friedrich von Hayek was right, John Maynard Keynes was wrong. Current western society is barrelling down a Keynesian railroad track, but the bridge is out ahead.

Unemployment is decreasing and GDP is rising. I frankly want to keep it this way.


Of course it is. Our economy is a giant house of cards with no solid foundation, though. We may save it from collapsing for decades, but eventually, like the Ponzi-scheme it essentially is, it will come crashing down hard.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:43 am

Vaticantopia wrote:We need another Ronald Reagan to pull us out of the hole Odumba left this country in.

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Postby Uxupox » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:07 pm

I thought Obama had the magic wand to resolve everything ala Harry Potter. Turns out I was wrong.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:23 pm

Serrenissima wrote:
Norstal wrote:Unemployment is decreasing and GDP is rising. I frankly want to keep it this way.


Of course it is. Our economy is a giant house of cards with no solid foundation, though. We may save it from collapsing for decades, but eventually, like the Ponzi-scheme it essentially is, it will come crashing down hard.

That sounds religious. Religion has no place in a scientific field such as economics.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:25 pm

Norstal wrote:
Serrenissima wrote:
Of course it is. Our economy is a giant house of cards with no solid foundation, though. We may save it from collapsing for decades, but eventually, like the Ponzi-scheme it essentially is, it will come crashing down hard.

That sounds religious. Religion has no place in a scientific field such as economics.

You are aware you are calling them a hypocrite right?

I mean after all they worship the labeling of religion as superstition.
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