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what do you not like about Obama

He is too Right Wing
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23%
He is too Left Wing
83
16%
His foreign policy sucks
126
24%
I don't like him for reasons not properly articulated in the above choices (if so post about it below)
104
20%
too black 4 me
95
18%
 
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:50 am

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Trans-Pecos Country wrote:I dont particularly like the guy because of his socialist tendencies. He wants to rase taxes on the rich. started obama care. negotiates with terrorists. thinks abortion is cool. wants tighter gun control laws. He wants us to be like european nation. a mediocre nation. if we become europe, then we are no longer America. If we are no longer America, then we are no longer the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Any true American who has read the Constitution and bill of rights would be strongly opposed to him.

May I ask where you learned these... Facts about him?

Literally all of that have been talking points on fox 'news', which is just a political commentary station.

I really wish people would look at the *real* news and decide what to think. BBC America is a good news station for that, since they aren't invested in being on one side of American politics.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:51 am

Trans-Pecos Country wrote:I dont particularly like the guy because of his socialist tendencies. He wants to rase taxes on the rich. started obama care. negotiates with terrorists. thinks abortion is cool. wants tighter gun control laws. He wants us to be like european nation. a mediocre nation. if we become europe, then we are no longer America. If we are no longer America, then we are no longer the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Any true American who has read the Constitution and bill of rights would be strongly opposed to him.


Many people raise taxes on the rich, Obamacare is a conservative healthcare plan coming from the Heritage Foundation, Reagan negotiated with terrorists and thought abortion was cool, and he doesn't want tighter gun laws (he would have done something about them if he did). He doesn't want use to be like Europe, as he is a center-right wing American capitalist, not a centrist social democrat. Europe isn't mediocre. America isn't the greatest nation on earth in any criteria. Except that we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

To end it all, none of that is socialist.
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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:52 am

Othelos wrote:I don't hate obama, at least he didn't mistakenly invade a country....

Like in 2007, when a Swiss training unit accidentally crossed the Swiss-Liechtensteiner border.
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:55 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Trans-Pecos Country wrote:I dont particularly like the guy because of his socialist tendencies. He wants to rase taxes on the rich. started obama care. negotiates with terrorists. thinks abortion is cool. wants tighter gun control laws. He wants us to be like european nation. a mediocre nation. if we become europe, then we are no longer America. If we are no longer America, then we are no longer the greatest nation on Gods green earth. Any true American who has read the Constitution and bill of rights would be strongly opposed to him.


Many people raise taxes on the rich, Obamacare is a conservative healthcare plan coming from the Heritage Foundation, Reagan negotiated with terrorists and thought abortion was cool, and he doesn't want tighter gun laws (he would have done something about them if he did). He doesn't want use to be like Europe, as he is a center-right wing American capitalist, not a centrist social democrat. Europe isn't mediocre. America isn't the greatest nation on earth in any criteria. Except that we have the highest incarceration rates in the world.

To end it all, none of that is socialist.

Not agreeing with Trans-Pecos, but Obama did want tighter gun laws and he did try to do something, but the laws did not pass.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:57 am

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Both in the Illinois Senate and one term in the U.S. Senate as a senator for Illinois.

Why serve as a Senator for Illinois of all places? Why Illinois, out of all 50 states?

My answer to that would likely be screaming Illuminati.


No, see, he was born in the State of Hawaii, to a white woman called Stanley Ann Dunham. Stanley has 7 letters.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama,

B-A-R-A-C-K = 6 letters
H-U-S-S-E-I-N = 7 letters
O-B-A-M-A = 5 letters

As you can clearly see the 7 is in his name. Creepy huh?

Now, in Illinois, he was presiding on the 13th district of Illinois while he was in the senate, which comprised parts of Southern Chicago, Chicago has 7 letters, and he was senator of Illinois from 1997-2004, that's 7 years. Are you still with me? Good, because this gets creepier.

In 2004 when he ran for senator he won by 70% of the vote in his state. 70% is a multiple of 7, there are 10 7s in 70. He was also senator from January 2005 to November 2008, that's 1414 days, 1414 is divisible by 7 and 707 which is ALSO divisible by 7.

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Postby Othelos » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:59 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Why serve as a Senator for Illinois of all places? Why Illinois, out of all 50 states?

My answer to that would likely be screaming Illuminati.


No, see, he was born in the State of Hawaii, to a white woman called Stanley Ann Dunham. Stanley has 7 letters.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama,

B-A-R-A-C-K = 6 letters
H-U-S-S-E-I-N = 7 letters
O-B-A-M-A = 5 letters

As you can clearly see the 7 is in his name. Creepy huh?

Now, in Illinois, he was presiding on the 13th district of Illinois while he was in the senate, which comprised parts of Southern Chicago, Chicago has 7 letters, and he was senator of Illinois from 1997-2004, that's 7 years. Are you still with me? Good, because this gets creepier.

In 2004 when he ran for senator he won by 70% of the vote in his state. 70% is a multiple of 7, there are 10 7s in 70. He was also senator from January 2005 to November 2008, that's 1414 days, 1414 is divisible by 7 and 707 which is ALSO divisible by 7.

HOLY SHIT ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED! HIDE YO' WIVES! AND YO' CHILDREN!

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Postby New Werpland » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:00 pm

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Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:He hates Israel and his foreign policy has been catastrophic. Horrible president.

How does Obama hate Israel?

He probably doesn't hand them a million dollar note each time they accidentally bomb a U.S warship.

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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:00 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Why serve as a Senator for Illinois of all places? Why Illinois, out of all 50 states?

My answer to that would likely be screaming Illuminati.


No, see, he was born in the State of Hawaii, to a white woman called Stanley Ann Dunham. Stanley has 7 letters.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama,

B-A-R-A-C-K = 6 letters
H-U-S-S-E-I-N = 7 letters
O-B-A-M-A = 5 letters

As you can clearly see the 7 is in his name. Creepy huh?

Now, in Illinois, he was presiding on the 13th district of Illinois while he was in the senate, which comprised parts of Southern Chicago, Chicago has 7 letters, and he was senator of Illinois from 1997-2004, that's 7 years. Are you still with me? Good, because this gets creepier.

In 2004 when he ran for senator he won by 70% of the vote in his state. 70% is a multiple of 7, there are 10 7s in 70. He was also senator from January 2005 to November 2008, that's 1414 days, 1414 is divisible by 7 and 707 which is ALSO divisible by 7.

HOLY SHIT ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED! HIDE YO' WIVES! AND YO' CHILDREN!

Seems to be a lot of Sevens in his life.

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New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Postby Applea » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:01 pm

Ok guys, who the crap answered with "Too black 4 me" as a serious answer? >:(

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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:02 pm

Applea wrote:Ok guys, who the crap answered with "Too black 4 me" as a serious answer? >:(

Well, I answered 2 Black 4 me because I was too lazy to move my mouse and it was the first thing I clicked on.
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New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Postby Anglo-California » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:03 pm

I've gone from hating him to just not really caring to passively disliking him. I think he's a shill.
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:05 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Why serve as a Senator for Illinois of all places? Why Illinois, out of all 50 states?

My answer to that would likely be screaming Illuminati.


No, see, he was born in the State of Hawaii, to a white woman called Stanley Ann Dunham. Stanley has 7 letters.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama,

B-A-R-A-C-K = 6 letters
H-U-S-S-E-I-N = 7 letters
O-B-A-M-A = 5 letters

As you can clearly see the 7 is in his name. Creepy huh?

Now, in Illinois, he was presiding on the 13th district of Illinois while he was in the senate, which comprised parts of Southern Chicago, Chicago has 7 letters, and he was senator of Illinois from 1997-2004, that's 7 years. Are you still with me? Good, because this gets creepier.

In 2004 when he ran for senator he won by 70% of the vote in his state. 70% is a multiple of 7, there are 10 7s in 70. He was also senator from January 2005 to November 2008, that's 1414 days, 1414 is divisible by 7 and 707 which is ALSO divisible by 7.

HOLY SHIT ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED! HIDE YO' WIVES! AND YO' CHILDREN!


A-and d-didn't he start his presidential campaign in 200........7

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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:06 pm

I don't hate Obama.


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Postby Madiganistan » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:06 pm

"Hate" is a strong word, but there's not much to be admired about the Chicago political machine he was bred out of.

I'm not a fan of his White House's efforts to federalize programs like heath care and education, which can be more effectively administered by smaller polities, but that's not a trait unique to the Obama Administration.

Furthermore, for a man whom campaigned on a platform of peace and a 21st century rebranding of America's global image, he's adhered to longstanding traditions of writing generous unconditional checks to the DoD during annual discretionary allocation. Again, not unique to his Administration, just a contributor to an ongoing problem.

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Postby Bandwagon » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:06 pm

He is a complete failure. I expected more from him. Maybe a bit too much.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:07 pm

I don't hate him, I just think he's a boring, slightly ineffective, almost soulless Centre-right leader, a bit like Blair.

He's done some good things, but excluding the fact that he was/is the USA's first non White president, I don't think he will have a legacy to look up to, he's actually had a very boring 8 years in office.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:09 pm

Applea wrote:Ok guys, who the crap answered with "Too black 4 me" as a serious answer? >:(


;)
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:09 pm

Too much ramping up of the security state shit I despised Bush for, too many drone attacks, Libya, and too much cozying up to that war criminal Bibi.
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Postby Spoder » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:09 pm

W8.

Did u see sumthin...

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Postby Madiganistan » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:20 pm

Spoder wrote:W8.

Did u see sumthin...



Spooki?

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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:28 pm

Spoder wrote:W8.

Did u see sumthin...

(Image)

Spooki?

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:55 pm

He is too pro-corporatism for my tastes.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:18 pm

Othelos wrote:I don't hate obama, at least he didn't mistakenly invade a country....

Doubtful.
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Postby Firsthome » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:21 pm

2 right 4 me...

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:24 pm

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