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what do you not like about Obama

He is too Right Wing
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He is too Left Wing
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His foreign policy sucks
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I don't like him for reasons not properly articulated in the above choices (if so post about it below)
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too black 4 me
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Kainesia
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Postby Kainesia » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:19 am

Fox news told me he's a communist anarchist fascist muslim atheist anti-Christ Kenyan who is importing blacks and latinos to genocide the white race in recompense for the slave trade and he is being helped in this by the jews and the illuminati of which he is head of.

Seems legit to me.
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:20 am



Obama hasn't granted anyone citizenship. You must be thinking of that radical Socialist Reagan, but even he only managed to provide amnesty for about 3 million.

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Postby Kainesia » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:25 am



If you think obamacare is universal healthcare, you have never lived in a country that has universal healthcare.

I really don't understand the problem with universal healthcare, if it is a communist plot then I live in the communist UK.

Excuse me while I go grab a pepsi.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:25 am

Myrensis wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:...most of those are just token civil rights bills. Little achievements outside of watered-down stimulus, regulation and healthcare bills in his first two years.


And whose idea was the watered down stimulus? Oh well, at least conservatives can look at the wild success of austerity in Europe and dream of what might have been.

What austerity? Source courtesy of known right-wing rag Bloomberg View.

Meanwhile, "coincidentally", the two countries with the highest growth rates in the OECD - the UK and the US - are the ones who've gone furthest with their austerity programs.

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:38 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:...most of those are just token civil rights bills. Little achievements outside of watered-down stimulus, regulation and healthcare bills in his first two years.

Hard to do much without cooperation.

He had two years of a Democratic Congress. His arrogance and unwillingness to work with the Republican Party, as if he believed he'd have the legislature forever, meant that the GOP took revenge on him when they gained the House. The man to blame for partisan gridlock is Obama.

Also, his regulatory budget has been significantly lower than Bush's.

Probably true. Bush was a big fan of regulations/corporate welfare. Can I have a source for that, though?

Regardless, Barack Obama has a fatal misunderstanding of recent economic history that has harmed the country, and probably the world. Looking at a crisis caused by over-regulation and then declaring that more regulation is needed to address it is not very good economic policy.

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:40 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Breitenfeld-Sibbesborg wrote:I do not hate Barack Obama, but I do dislike his politics. I don't live in the United States, but I do hear so often about the people in the States who "hate" Obama. I would like to ask a question, despite this thread already having a question: Do all of the people who say that they hate Barack Obama truly hate him, or is it his politics (or, unfortunately, his skin colour) that they hate? I'm very interested in the reasoning behind all of the hatred for Barack Obama.

There are those because he tried to do socialist things for the lessor people.

Obama is not a socialist, he is a corporatist.

There are those because he didn't subscribe to trickle down economics.

What the fuck is "trickle-down economics"?

There are those because he continued stuff of the shrub.

The Obama Era has seen some of the most gruelling hypocrisy on both sides of the political spectrum. Conservatives are suddenly opposed to Bush-era policies if they're done by a Democrat, and meanwhile liberals are having fun pretending that Obama is actually different to his predecessor - which, on the whole, is not true.

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Postby Abobiri » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:44 am

Kainesia wrote:Fox news told me he's a communist anarchist fascist muslim atheist anti-Christ Kenyan who is importing blacks and latinos to genocide the white race in recompense for the slave trade and he is being helped in this by the jews and the illuminati of which he is head of.

Seems legit to me.


What? In recompense for the slave trade? Barack Obama refuses to even acknowledge the ideas of reparations for those who ARE descendants of slavery (which Obama is not).

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:27 am

Because he never calls me back. :(
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:30 am

I don't like his leftist politics.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:30 am

The Holy Therns wrote:Because he never calls me back. :(

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:33 am

Big Jim P wrote:I don't like his leftist politics.

Like?
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:33 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:
He did introduce socialized health care for the first time in US history.


You mean RomneyCare ?

Definately socialism. It's Karl Marx's dream come true.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:33 am

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:I don't like his leftist politics.

Like?


Pretty much most of them. In fact, I can not think of anything about his politics I like at all, ATM.
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Postby Patridam » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:04 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:What the fuck is "trickle-down economics"?


Modern economic theory most commonly adopted by US republicans. In their mind, it means that greater deregulation of industry at the 'top' of the wealth pyramid means more jobs, by which the income gained trickles down to the middle and lower classes. Alternatively, it's the idea that taxing the rich equally to the rest of the people means that the extra money they have will be spent on goods and services performed/made by the middle and lower classes, and will thus trickle down as well.

It's not something many Democrats in the US agree to, least of all Obama.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:07 am

Patridam wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:What the fuck is "trickle-down economics"?


Modern economic theory most commonly adopted by US republicans. In their mind, it means that greater deregulation of industry at the 'top' of the wealth pyramid means more jobs, by which the income gained trickles down to the middle and lower classes. Alternatively, it's the idea that taxing the rich equally to the rest of the people means that the extra money they have will be spent on goods and services performed/made by the middle and lower classes, and will thus trickle down as well.

Please refer to me a politician or economist who has ever advocated this "trickle-down economics".

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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:07 am

The Holy Therns wrote:Because he never calls me back. :(

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:50 am

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The Holy Therns wrote:Because he never calls me back. :(

Dat face doe.


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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:52 am

Gauthier wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Dat face doe.


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How did you find that? That face doe. So creepy. Much Obama. Such wow.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:36 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Modern economic theory most commonly adopted by US republicans. In their mind, it means that greater deregulation of industry at the 'top' of the wealth pyramid means more jobs, by which the income gained trickles down to the middle and lower classes. Alternatively, it's the idea that taxing the rich equally to the rest of the people means that the extra money they have will be spent on goods and services performed/made by the middle and lower classes, and will thus trickle down as well.

Please refer to me a politician or economist who has ever advocated this "trickle-down economics".


President Ronald Reagan
President George W. Bush
Paul Ryan
John Boehner
Mitch McConnell

There's actually a really long list, I suggest you go to http://www.ontheissues.org/ and find the politicians yourself. BTW, they don't call it trickle down they prefer the term supply-side.
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Postby Robert Magoo » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:01 am

I actually like his foreign policy for the most part. But domestically, he's a typical democrat, who believes government is the answer to everything. That's not my thing...
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Postby Conglomerate of Iron » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:36 am

#rightwingersvsleftwingers.

I love it when the stupidest political views go at it.

Obama is just like Bush, just like Clinton, just like Reagan, just like Carter, just like Ford, and so on.

They are all statists who enforce arbitrary, unjust laws.
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Postby New Werpland » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:47 am

Conglomerate of Iron wrote:#rightwingersvsleftwingers.

I love it when the stupidest political views go at it.

Obama is just like Bush, just like Clinton, just like Reagan, just like Carter, just like Ford, and so on.

They are all statists who enforce arbitrary, unjust laws.


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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:59 am

Conglomerate of Iron wrote:#rightwingersvsleftwingers.

I love it when the stupidest political views go at it.

Obama is just like Bush, just like Clinton, just like Reagan, just like Carter, just like Ford, and so on.

They are all statists who enforce arbitrary, unjust laws.

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Postby Paledonn » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:07 am

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This is the dumbest thread I've made yet, but still I'd like to talk about it. As we all know Obama has consistently low approval ratings. I for one see no reason to hate him so much, everything he passed was bipartisan, and none of it seems to have caused economic catastrophe. I believe that all this hate against Obama has been caused by populist conservative media that can't tolerate anything that isn't on their standards, and even Liberals now want to jump on the Obama hater wagon by saying he's not leftist enough. Of course I don't think Obama is flawless, liberals expected him to be flawless in 2008, and that obviously hasn't happened. The point here though shouldn't be to just praise him though, I would like this thread to be varied with reasonable criticism from our left and right wing friends on nsg.

Just saying, there isn't much of a conservative media in the U.S. Just Fox News. Everything else is neutral or liberal.
But his foreign policy des suck. Give Iran and Afghanistan back to the terrorists. Spy on our allies personal phone calls. Not go to the parade where all of the leaders of the free world are holding hands and marching against terrorism. etc...
And I don't hate him I dislike his policies immensely. he is not a bad guy.
Oh, and bipartisan is the last thing I would describe him as.
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Postby Ereria » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:27 am

What the united states need is a ghetto president taken straight out of Compton.
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