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what do you not like about Obama

He is too Right Wing
122
23%
He is too Left Wing
83
16%
His foreign policy sucks
126
24%
I don't like him for reasons not properly articulated in the above choices (if so post about it below)
104
20%
too black 4 me
95
18%
 
Total votes : 530

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:41 am

Firsthome wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
There are more differences than similarities, though if Obama and Bush happen to be close together on whatever your pet cause is, then I can see how it would look otherwise.

Exactly who is saying that Obama's race makes him better as a President?

Yes, he's black by the standards used in the United States. Basically, if you have a skin tone that will cause security to follow you around a store at the mall, you're black.


even though white people, even by percentage, actually cause more crimes


Yep, even though. But that's another topic.

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Postby Arcanda » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:53 am

Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.

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Postby Firsthome » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:56 am

Arcanda wrote:Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.


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Postby Earl of Sandwich IV » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:03 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:What? Iron Dome was developed by an Israeli company.

Developed by Israel. Funded by America.

And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:07 pm

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Developed by Israel. Funded by America.

And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome#Funding

According to that, he's given 460 million dollars to Israel in 2014 alone. That's not hating Israel.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:10 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome#Funding

According to that, he's given 460 million dollars to Israel in 2014 alone. That's not hating Israel.


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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:11 pm

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Developed by Israel. Funded by America.

And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.
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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:12 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.

Or actually be one by getting us to annex it.
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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:23 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.

Or actually be one by getting us to annex it.

I can dig it. It can be for Jews what Utah is for Mormons.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:24 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Or actually be one by getting us to annex it.

I can dig it. It can be for Jews what Utah is for Mormons.


But we already have New York....

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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:25 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I can dig it. It can be for Jews what Utah is for Mormons.


But we already have New York....

Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.
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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Then we can have another New York. No such thing as too many New Yorks.


And somewhere in New York, Big Jim P gets a cold shudder down his spine.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:26 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:I can dig it. It can be for Jews what Utah is for Mormons.


But we already have New York....

Well now we can have one without New Yorkers to ruin it.

Everyone wins.
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Postby Atomic Energy » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:37 pm

Arcanda wrote:Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.

It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.
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Postby Firsthome » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:39 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.

It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.


at first, they where popular. Clinton did pretty good things, but bad things as well.

under bush Cheney came to power :(
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Postby New Jordslag » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:39 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.

It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.

Clinton wasn't impeached. They tried to Impeach him. And failed.
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Postby Atomic Energy » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:40 pm

New Jordslag wrote:
Atomic Energy wrote:It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.

Clinton wasn't impeached. They tried to Impeach him. And failed.

Yes, he was. He was impeached but not disbarred.
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Postby Firsthome » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:40 pm

Can we turn this into a Capitalist Hate thread?

Or a Cheney Hate thread?
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:41 pm

"Because hes a communazi liberal democrat kenyan muslim atheist jew NWO scumbag".
That's what I got from folks since his presidency in 2009.
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Postby Alsheb » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:48 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Alsheb wrote:I hate Obama because he's simply another Bush carrying another party flag. Also, my stomach turns everytime people start spewing nonsense about how him being a "Black president" would somehow make him better. First off he isn't even black, and secondly: a coloured militaristic and ultra-imperialist puppet of big capital is still a militaristic and ultra-imperialist puppet of big capital.


There are more differences than similarities, though if Obama and Bush happen to be close together on whatever your pet cause is, then I can see how it would look otherwise.

Exactly who is saying that Obama's race makes him better as a President?

Yes, he's black by the standards used in the United States. Basically, if you have a skin tone that will cause security to follow you around a store at the mall, you're black.


Obama continued the droning, mercilessly persecuted and locked up whistleblowers, war in Afghanistan, doing nothing about racism and even racist murder in the police force, kept Guantanamo open, kept the torture programs going, invaded a sovereign nation (Libya) much in the same way as Iraq, supplied weapons to terrorists in Syria, did as good as nothing about climate change, did not diminish the ridiculous military spending (55% of the entire US budget), ...

I don't see much difference between him and the last president.
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Postby Alsheb » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:51 pm

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
New Jordslag wrote:Developed by Israel. Funded by America.

And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.


If only. The day the US would really stop funding the zionazis, Israel would be wiped off the charts within the year.
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Postby Alsheb » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:53 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:And Obama cut funding to Israel/US missle defense cooperations.
Obama’s Cut to Israeli Missile Defense Aid Reflects Larger Policy

He threw Israel under the bus.

You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.


It kinda does. Violent colonisation, racial segregation and institutional racism... sounds a lot like how most US states came to be ;)
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Postby Firsthome » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:54 pm

Alsheb wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.


It kinda does. Violent colonisation, racial segregation and institutional racism... sounds a lot like how most US states came to be ;)


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Postby Cinnabarra » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:56 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:
Arcanda wrote:Why do people hate him? Partly because he is an African-American President, partly because he is a President.
Check out how popular Clinton and Bush were back in their time.They didn't do any better than Barack Obama.If Mitt Romney had won he'd be hated just about the same.

It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.

They were both popular in the beginning, like Obama.And then their popularity decreased.Like Obama.
If the current problems are not solved immediatly by the current leader, his popularity will decrease a little.It's the same from Francois Hollande in France.

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Postby Atomic Energy » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:00 pm

Cinnabarra wrote:
Atomic Energy wrote:It isn't about race for almost everyone who dislikes him. Also, in what world were Clinton and Bush popular? Clinton was impeached and Bush ended with like a 15% approval rating.

They were both popular in the beginning, like Obama.And then their popularity decreased.Like Obama.
If the current problems are not solved immediatly by the current leader, his popularity will decrease a little.It's the same from Francois Hollande in France.

Puppet of Arcanda btw

I think Francois Hollande's bedroom adventures might have a lot to do with his 5% approval rating, but that's just me.

But yeah, we always hold such high expectations for every President and we always get let down. I think the issue here is that Obama's presidency was built up so massively -- the Democrats acted like it would be an end to racial conflict (like when people waved the "Free at last" signs at Obama's first inauguration). But really, he's just as incompetent as any white guy would've been.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:01 pm

Alsheb wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:You know, making you pay for your own shit isn't throwing you under the bus.

If you want Israel to get the benefits of being a US territory, it should act like one.


It kinda does. Violent colonisation, racial segregation and institutional racism... sounds a lot like how most US states came to be ;)

Except that the US has largely moved past that point in our history. So a theoretical American annexation of Israel wouldn't likely go down that road.

But you know, cheap shots at history is a decent enough substitute for having anything intelligent or meaningful to say, I guess.

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