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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:50 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Hence why capitalism sucks.

Well, I don't think that capitalism in itself sucks, but how that corporations take advantage of it in this day and age.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:54 am

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Monopolism may not be exactly legal, but that doesn't mean companies are not trying to do so despite the law.

True. Often times to gain ground in the market you push the competition out through legal disputes, even over trivial details. (Apple vs. Samsung anyone?)

That was a rather ridiculous lawsuit, since Apple products would quickly become a thing of the past or vastly inferior as soon as Samsung wouldn't supply the necessary electronics anymore.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:10 am

*shrug* More Cadbury for me.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:13 am

Ifreann wrote:*shrug* More Cadbury for me.


It's worse, the American companies keep increasing prices while decreasing quantities and they're messing with the recipe.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:15 am

Ifreann wrote:*shrug* More Cadbury for me.

And I get mine in the diplomatic pouch, so ... yeah.

Anyway, no one held a gun to Cadbury's head. It was an agreement that the two companies came to. I think the British should be more outraged at the fact that their beloved Cadbury is owned by the international arm of Kraft Foods, Mondelēz International. "Mondelēz International manages well-known snack brands around the globe, including in cookies and crackers (Oreo; Chips Ahoy!; TUC; Belvita; Triscuit; Club Social; and Barni), chocolate (Milka, Côte d'Or, Toblerone, and Cadbury Dairy Milk), and gum and candy (Trident, Chiclets, Halls, Stride, and Cadbury Dairy Milk Eclairs)." You want to get upset about something, read about all the things Mondelēz_International controls.
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Postby Narland » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:15 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Stormwrath wrote:True. Often times to gain ground in the market you push the competition out through legal disputes, even over trivial details. (Apple vs. Samsung anyone?)

That was a rather ridiculous lawsuit, since Apple products would quickly become a thing of the past or vastly inferior as soon as Samsung wouldn't supply the necessary electronics anymore.


Make corporations endure trial by combat. Product that fails first looses. That will learn them. >:(
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:18 am

Narland wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:That was a rather ridiculous lawsuit, since Apple products would quickly become a thing of the past or vastly inferior as soon as Samsung wouldn't supply the necessary electronics anymore.

Make corporations endure trial by combat. Product that fails first looses. That will learn them. >:(

That only works for manufacturers of military hardware.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:20 am

I already have an arrangement when coworkers from my UK office come to visit to bring Dairy Milk. I will have to increase my order.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:21 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Narland wrote:Make corporations endure trial by combat. Product that fails first looses. That will learn them. >:(

That only works for manufacturers of military hardware.

I don't know, it could be fun to watch Hershey's and Cadbury champions battle it out. Chocolate wrestling, anyone? Or jousting with giant Twix bars? Maybe a contest to see who can eat the most of those pukingly sweet egg things before going into a coma.
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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:24 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:That only works for manufacturers of military hardware.

I don't know, it could be fun to watch Hershey's and Cadbury champions battle it out. Chocolate wrestling, anyone? Or jousting with giant Twix bars? Maybe a contest to see who can eat the most of those pukingly sweet egg things before going into a coma.

Yes. It should happen. :D
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:24 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:That only works for manufacturers of military hardware.

I don't know, it could be fun to watch Hershey's and Cadbury champions battle it out. Chocolate wrestling, anyone? Or jousting with giant Twix bars? Maybe a contest to see who can eat the most of those pukingly sweet egg things before going into a coma.

You make a very compelling argument.
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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:24 am

Olthar wrote:Actual chocolate is a rare commodity that is quickly getting rarer and more expensive due to the sheer difficulty in growing and harvesting it. It won't be long until chocolate is right up there with caviar as a food exclusively for the rich, leaving cheap-ass knock-off shit for us. Better eat the good stuff while you have a chance.

I really doubt that Subsaharan countries in Africa would growing one of their main cash crops. Unless you were being satirical of course.

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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:31 am

Dejanic wrote:Hersheys chocolate isn't actually legally recognised as Chocolate in the UK or the Eu, it's "candy" largely due to it's low amount of cocoa solids.

In the UK, chocolate must contain at least 20% cocoa solids, now Cadburies as 22/23 percent cocoa, which is on the low side in the UK, Hersheys has 11 percent.

Now the 20% threshold is actually very world on a world wide scale, other countries in Europe like Belgium, Switzerland, have their weakest milk chocolate bars at a minimum of 40% cocoa.

I ate a Hersheys candy bar a few months ago, as they're sold in the USA section of my local Tesco's, I actually vomited it was so sugary.

I stopped eating it a long time ago. Sounds like the chocolate man has gone to the dark sour side.
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Ifreann wrote:*shrug* More Cadbury for me.


It's worse, the American companies keep increasing prices while decreasing quantities and they're messing with the recipe.

Yeah, "king size" is basically just narrower than regular size Hershey.
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Ifreann wrote:*shrug* More Cadbury for me.

And I get mine in the diplomatic pouch, so ... yeah.

Anyway, no one held a gun to Cadbury's head. It was an agreement that the two companies came to. I think the British should be more outraged at the fact that their beloved Cadbury is owned by the international arm of Kraft Foods, Mondelēz International. "Mondelēz International manages well-known snack brands around the globe, including in cookies and crackers (Oreo; Chips Ahoy!; TUC; Belvita; Triscuit; Club Social; and Barni), chocolate (Milka, Côte d'Or, Toblerone, and Cadbury Dairy Milk), and gum and candy (Trident, Chiclets, Halls, Stride, and Cadbury Dairy Milk Eclairs)." You want to get upset about something, read about all the things Mondelēz_International controls.


We are but what's to be done. The acquisition is a particularly cruel irony in Cadburys case.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:39 am

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I don't know whether to donate you to medical science or a patisserie.

Farnhamia wrote:And I get mine in the diplomatic pouch, so ... yeah.

Anyway, no one held a gun to Cadbury's head. It was an agreement that the two companies came to. I think the British should be more outraged at the fact that their beloved Cadbury is owned by the international arm of Kraft Foods, Mondelēz International. "Mondelēz International manages well-known snack brands around the globe, including in cookies and crackers (Oreo; Chips Ahoy!; TUC; Belvita; Triscuit; Club Social; and Barni), chocolate (Milka, Côte d'Or, Toblerone, and Cadbury Dairy Milk), and gum and candy (Trident, Chiclets, Halls, Stride, and Cadbury Dairy Milk Eclairs)." You want to get upset about something, read about all the things Mondelēz_International controls.


We are but what's to be done. The acquisition is a particularly cruel irony in Cadburys case.

I suppose there's a small blessing in the fact that Kraft isn't owned by Phillip Morris any longer.
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Postby DesAnges » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:44 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:That only works for manufacturers of military hardware.

I don't know, it could be fun to watch Hershey's and Cadbury champions battle it out. Chocolate wrestling, anyone? Or jousting with giant Twix bars? Maybe a contest to see who can eat the most of those pukingly sweet egg things before going into a coma.

How dare you besmirch the good name of the Creme Egg!
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Postby Rhodisia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:45 am

Live not too far from Hershey, PA - can confirm. Hershey's used to be good but now it's just complete shit.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:45 am

Farnhamia wrote:
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We are but what's to be done. The acquisition is a particularly cruel irony in Cadburys case.

I suppose there's a small blessing in the fact that Kraft isn't owned by Phillip Morris any longer.


But but, I love you Phillip Morris!
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DesAnges wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I don't know, it could be fun to watch Hershey's and Cadbury champions battle it out. Chocolate wrestling, anyone? Or jousting with giant Twix bars? Maybe a contest to see who can eat the most of those pukingly sweet egg things before going into a coma.

How dare you besmirch the good name of the Creme Egg!

Who makes it?
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DesAnges wrote:How dare you besmirch the good name of the Creme Egg!

Who makes it?

Cadbury. You can tell because they spell it "creme." So hoity-toity. You have to hold up one pinky while eating it, too.
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Postby Constaniana » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:52 am

Bloody outrageous. Hersheys really wants to trap me in sweets hell, don't they?
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:52 am

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Who makes it?

Cadbury. You can tell because they spell it "creme." So hoity-toity. You have to hold up one pinky while eating it, too.

Fancy food...I'm no fancy person. We plebs eat as we will!
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:52 am

Constaniana wrote:Bloody outrageous. Hersheys really wants to trap me in sweets hell, don't they?

You could always just, you know, stop eating the sweets. They aren't good for you, anyway.

And by the way, milk may be the first ingredient in the Cadbury bar but sugar is the second one.
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Postby The Emperor Fenix » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:54 am

Farnhamia wrote:I suppose there's a small blessing in the fact that Kraft isn't owned by Phillip Morris any longer.


It's really coming to something when a cigarette company doesn't want anything to with you. Though Philip Morris is more than partly to blame for the current bloated unwieldy state of Kraft. And it's not like the independent Kraft seems to have learnt the lesson about ill-thought out mergers.

If I had my druthers and a couple of hundred million I'd have been sorely tempted to start a new confectionary factory on the old Cadbury sites. You couldn't have bought better press.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:57 am

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Constaniana wrote:Bloody outrageous. Hersheys really wants to trap me in sweets hell, don't they?

You could always just, you know, stop eating the sweets. They aren't good for you, anyway.

And by the way, milk may be the first ingredient in the Cadbury bar but sugar is the second one.

It's mass-produced milk chocolate, that's not really surprising at all.

That there's more sugar than milk (or chocolate!) in "milk chocolate", like in Hershey products, is quite bad.
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