Communism and Socialism megathread

[Ndaku]

I'll be totally honest with you; I do not know. Recently after studying socialism/communism in my US history class I came in accord with some of its principles about financial/economical equality. Ideologies and politics are one of those things I would personally prefer to study/learn slowly; I have a very broad view on this stuff. Eventually I'll discover what type of socialist I am

A good introduction to Libertarian Socialism:

Libertarian Socialist Rants

Also, the wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

Very well, thanks!

I'll occasionally check this thread out to kinda gain some views of other local socialists around here.

[The New Sea Territory]

I'll be totally honest with you; I do not know. Recently after studying socialism/communism in my US history class I came in accord with some of its principles about financial/economical equality. Ideologies and politics are one of those things I would personally prefer to study/learn slowly; I have a very broad view on this stuff. Eventually I'll discover what type of socialist I am

Tip*: If you are serious about learning about socialism, forget everything about it you've been taught in all your years of "education". All your schooling is liberal-capitalist propaganda inteded to poison your mind with bourgeois degeneracy and maintain your ignorance about the proletariat's current vegetative state. Start as a clean slate, and allow socialism to embrace you.

That sounds creepy, but the point it true.

To be honest, that is true about ANY ideology. Never trust a history teacher when they start talking about political ideologies, because it is all opinion. If you ever want to learn about an ideology, it is best to ask people who actually believe in it to explain their reasoning. I did a few months of study on National Socialism and other forms of fascism by hanging out in fascist regions on NS. I don't support fascism, but I at least understand the ideology now rather than just accepting that it's bad by default.

[Ndaku]

I'll be totally honest with you; I do not know. Recently after studying socialism/communism in my US history class I came in accord with some of its principles about financial/economical equality. Ideologies and politics are one of those things I would personally prefer to study/learn slowly; I have a very broad view on this stuff. Eventually I'll discover what type of socialist I am

Tip*: If you are serious about learning about socialism, forget everything about it you've been taught in all your years of "education". All your schooling is liberal-capitalist propaganda inteded to poison your mind with bourgeois degeneracy and maintain your ignorance about the proletariat's current vegetative state. Start as a clean slate, and allow socialism to embrace you.

Ah I see. I do remain cautious when learning about these things, especially about history and politics. I'm more of a science guy if you ask me, but I do open my arms to learn about new things. Politics isn't my most favored choice, but I've learned that it is one of those things in life that is "nice to know".

[Udinia]

Tip*: If you are serious about learning about socialism, forget everything about it you've been taught in all your years of "education". All your schooling is liberal-capitalist propaganda inteded to poison your mind with bourgeois degeneracy and maintain your ignorance about the proletariat's current vegetative state. Start as a clean slate, and allow socialism to embrace you.

That sounds creepy, but the point it true.

To be honest, that is true about ANY ideology. Never trust a history teacher when they start talking about political ideologies, because it is all opinion. If you ever want to learn about an ideology, it is best to ask people who actually believe in it to explain their reasoning. I did a few months of study on National Socialism and other forms of fascism by hanging out in fascist regions on NS. I don't support fascism, but I at least understand the ideology now rather than just accepting that it's bad by default.

How do I sound creepy?....

Tip*: If you are serious about learning about socialism, forget everything about it you've been taught in all your years of "education". All your schooling is liberal-capitalist propaganda inteded to poison your mind with bourgeois degeneracy and maintain your ignorance about the proletariat's current vegetative state. Start as a clean slate, and allow socialism to embrace you.

Ah I see. I do remain cautious when learning about these things, especially about history and politics. I'm more of a science guy if you ask me, but I do open my arms to learn about new things. Politics isn't my most favored choice, but I've learned that it is one of those things in life that is "nice to know".

To me socialism is my religion, it is more than a mere ideology, it is a lifestyle.

[The New Sea Territory]

That sounds creepy, but the point it true.

To be honest, that is true about ANY ideology. Never trust a history teacher when they start talking about political ideologies, because it is all opinion. If you ever want to learn about an ideology, it is best to ask people who actually believe in it to explain their reasoning. I did a few months of study on National Socialism and other forms of fascism by hanging out in fascist regions on NS. I don't support fascism, but I at least understand the ideology now rather than just accepting that it's bad by default.

How do I sound creepy?....

Let socialism embrace you!

[Udinia]

How do I sound creepy?....

Let socialism embrace you!

How is that creepy? The way I see it, anyone that gives a damn about humanity will be drawn to socialism.

[Alsheb]

I'll be totally honest with you; I do not know. Recently after studying socialism/communism in my US history class I came in accord with some of its principles about financial/economical equality. Ideologies and politics are one of those things I would personally prefer to study/learn slowly; I have a very broad view on this stuff. Eventually I'll discover what type of socialist I am

Tip*: If you are serious about learning about socialism, forget everything about it you've been taught in all your years of "education". All your schooling is liberal-capitalist propaganda inteded to poison your mind with bourgeois degeneracy and maintain your ignorance about the proletariat's current vegetative state. Start as a clean slate, and allow socialism to embrace you.

Learning oneself class consciousness does indeed require pretty much just that.

[The New Sea Territory]

Let socialism embrace you!

How is that creepy? The way I see it, anyone that gives a damn about humanity will be drawn to socialism.

It sounds strange. I don't see socialism as a cuddly teddy bear that gives you a hug.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said though.

[Ndaku]

That sounds creepy, but the point it true.

To be honest, that is true about ANY ideology. Never trust a history teacher when they start talking about political ideologies, because it is all opinion. If you ever want to learn about an ideology, it is best to ask people who actually believe in it to explain their reasoning. I did a few months of study on National Socialism and other forms of fascism by hanging out in fascist regions on NS. I don't support fascism, but I at least understand the ideology now rather than just accepting that it's bad by default.

How do I sound creepy?....

Ah I see. I do remain cautious when learning about these things, especially about history and politics. I'm more of a science guy if you ask me, but I do open my arms to learn about new things. Politics isn't my most favored choice, but I've learned that it is one of those things in life that is "nice to know".

To me socialism is my religion, it is more than a mere ideology, it is a lifestyle.

Huh. Interesting.

[Alsheb]

How do I sound creepy?....

Let socialism embrace you!

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

[Ndaku]

Let socialism embrace you!

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

I agree with socialist principles because it seems to eliminate a lot of challenges of that a capitalist nation would face, like crime, poor/rich divide. I also like socialism because in a socialist society, skills tend to be valued more than money; in a capitalist society money is extremely valued more than anything else...

[Kenora County]

I like how most socialists/ciommunists on this forum are middle class children from first world countriess

[Alsheb]

I like how most socialists/ciommunists on this forum are middle class children from first world countriess

In general, lower class workers from third world countries usually don't have computers, internet or a NationStates account...

[Udinia]

Let socialism embrace you!

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

I like you, we're going to get on well I think. Not many socialists are willing to see the more "artistic" or spiritual side of the philosophy.

How is that creepy? The way I see it, anyone that gives a damn about humanity will be drawn to socialism.

It sounds strange. I don't see socialism as a cuddly teddy bear that gives you a hug.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said though.

Ah, ok. As long as we're on the same page.

[Conscentia]

Let socialism embrace you!

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

Frankly, you sound like you're brainwashed.

I like how most socialists/ciommunists on this forum are middle class children from first world countriess

How do you know the class of others on this forum?

[Ndaku]

I like how most socialists/ciommunists on this forum are middle class children from first world countriess

You expect a person from Somalia to play this game or something?

[Conscentia]

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

I like you, we're going to get on well I think. Not many socialists are willing to see the more "artistic" or spiritual side of the philosophy.

Socialism isn't a philosophy. It's a business model (well... more of a class of business models). And it doesn't have a spiritual side.

[Alsheb]

The beauty of Socialism is actually of such a sort that it can come to "embrace" you. One of the best things about being a Socialist is that if you study and practice it enough, you can actually feel the deep truth of it deep inside you at times.

Frankly, you sound like you're brainwashed.

You should go tell my comrades in the Party that. They'd have a good laugh and tell you about the day I walked up to them and asked to join them, and they had to ask me to relax with the ultra-left rhetoric

[Conscentia]

To me socialism is my religion, it is more than a mere ideology, it is a lifestyle.

... just what?

[Alsheb]

I like you, we're going to get on well I think. Not many socialists are willing to see the more "artistic" or spiritual side of the philosophy.

Socialism isn't a philosophy. It's a business model (well... more of a class of business models). And it doesn't have a spiritual side.

Socialism is a political ideology, based on the principles of Marxism. It goed way beyond mere business models.
And while I wouldn't call it "spiritual", there is most definitely a very important philosophical and ideological part to Socialism. Reducing Socialism to mere economism and mathematics is depriving it of an essential part.

[Kisinger]

Hey, Leninist here :3

[Udinia]

I like you, we're going to get on well I think. Not many socialists are willing to see the more "artistic" or spiritual side of the philosophy.

Socialism isn't a philosophy. It's a business model. And it doesn't have a spiritual side.

People like to see it that way, sure. But keep in mind socialism is an umbrella of related schools, not all branches of socialism are materialist and athiest. I don't see socialism is a linear " business model", I view it as an all encompassing moral, spiritual, and economic philosophy.

[Ndaku]

To me socialism is my religion, it is more than a mere ideology, it is a lifestyle.

... just what?

A pair of extreme socialists eh?

[United Marxist Nations]

Hey, Leninist here :3

Yay, more of us!

[United Marxist Nations]

I like you, we're going to get on well I think. Not many socialists are willing to see the more "artistic" or spiritual side of the philosophy.

Socialism isn't a philosophy. It's a business model (well... more of a class of business models). And it doesn't have a spiritual side.

Marxist versions of it are very much based in philosophy, dialectical and historical materialism.