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Do you support an individual's right to have an abortion?

Yes, absolutely!
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Yes, but only in certain circumstances (please specify in a post)
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No, never!
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Total votes : 1938

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Aeuria
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Postby Aeuria » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:50 am

If abortion is murder, is male masturbation genocide?
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:51 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Aelex wrote:And for people who don't drive nor have sex?
Plus, no; 12-14 time a week in university seem rather reasonnable...


If you're a sex monkey, yes.

Actually monkeys have sex a lot less frequently then humans.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:52 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
If you're a sex monkey, yes.

Actually monkeys have sex a lot less frequently then humans.


Those poor devils.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:52 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, now that's true - I drive about 12 times per week, and have sex about 6 times per week.

When I was in college, it was different. I drove about 2-4 times per week, and had sex about 12-14 times a week.

EDIT: I also happen to know a woman in new york city who hasn't driven in 2 years.


Well, your sex life is certainly... active.

But hey, I'm not judging.

Nonetheless, as you can see, driving is more important than sex. Most people need to drive, but nobody needs to have sex.

I wouldn't judge a "necessity" by how often I do it anyway.

I only poop once a day. I consider this a necessity. I post in Nationstates dozens of times. Yet, I do not a consider that a necessity.
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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:54 am

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Whether it was invited in or not is irrelevant. If she wants it gone, she has the right to get it out.

In the same way that one can invite another into their home, they can also ask the person to leave, and if they refuse to do so, they are trespassing... and target practice.


You must not have many friends.

Or at least, not many living ones.


Personal insult noted.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:54 am

Galloism wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Well, your sex life is certainly... active.

But hey, I'm not judging.

Nonetheless, as you can see, driving is more important than sex. Most people need to drive, but nobody needs to have sex.

I wouldn't judge a "necessity" by how often I do it anyway.

I only poop once a day. I consider this a necessity. I post in Nationstates dozens of times. Yet, I do not a consider that a necessity.


And yet having sex is not a necessity.

Unless someone is pointing a gun to your head and demanding you have sex while they watch, you don't have to do it.

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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:55 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Aelex wrote:And for people who don't drive nor have sex?
Plus, no; 12-14 time a week in university seem rather reasonnable...


If you're a sex monkey, yes.

Actually, that was pretty average for my group of friends.

When pilot students hit the town, it's a party.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:55 am

Godular wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
You must not have many friends.

Or at least, not many living ones.


Personal insult noted.


It's not an insult, it's a fact.

I doubt many people would want to be friends with someone who would start pointing a shotgun at them the moment they overstayed their welcome.

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Postby Mefpan » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:56 am

Aeuria wrote:If abortion is murder, is male masturbation genocide?

Too late man, I already shot that load.

Wait, crap. That's not what I...I mean that sounded...

Oh for fuck's sake, you know what I mean.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:56 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:I wouldn't judge a "necessity" by how often I do it anyway.

I only poop once a day. I consider this a necessity. I post in Nationstates dozens of times. Yet, I do not a consider that a necessity.


And yet having sex is not a necessity.

Unless someone is pointing a gun to your head and demanding you have sex while they watch, you don't have to do it.

I do if I want to keep my blood pressure down, prostate healthy, and psychologically sound.

I mean, I eat vegetables for similar reasons. Sex is about as important to me as eating my vegetables.
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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:56 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Aelex wrote:And for people who don't drive nor have sex?
Plus, no; 12-14 time a week in university seem rather reasonnable...


If you're a sex monkey, yes.

Seem like someone has refrened sexual pulsions here... :p
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:57 am

Aeuria wrote:If abortion is murder, is male masturbation genocide?


Being reasonable abortion isn't murder, it's justifiable homicide. ;)
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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:58 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:I wouldn't judge a "necessity" by how often I do it anyway.

I only poop once a day. I consider this a necessity. I post in Nationstates dozens of times. Yet, I do not a consider that a necessity.


And yet having sex is not a necessity.

Unless someone is pointing a gun to your head and demanding you have sex while they watch, you don't have to do it.


Irrelevant. People don't have to climb mountains either, or read books, or talk to other people. They will still do it if they want to. Just because one engages in recreational sex does not mean that they must be forced to endure a pregnancy if one should happen to occur, whether safeguards are taken or not.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:58 am

Sanctissima wrote:If you're a sex monkey, yes.


Did you have an argument, or just poor attempts to shame people who have more sex than you get to have?
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:59 am

Aelex wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
If you're a sex monkey, yes.

Seem like someone has refrened sexual pulsions here... :p


I have a hand.

-cricket noises-

Well, this got awkward.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:59 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Actually monkeys have sex a lot less frequently then humans.


Those poor devils.

Okay?

Most monkeys employ grooming behavior to reinforce social bonds in the same way that bonobos and humans use sex. Except that humans are more stingy about it, typically limiting their sexual contact to only a few individuals at a time, and with jealousy, which makes human social bonding highly capricious, disjointed, and awkward.

Feel sorry for yourself, hominid.
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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:59 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Godular wrote:
Personal insult noted.


It's not an insult, it's a fact.

I doubt many people would want to be friends with someone who would start pointing a shotgun at them the moment they overstayed their welcome.


It is a personal insult. You are making assumptions about my personal life based on my position.

I could say that not very many women would wish to be friends with you because you treat them like dirt, but I don't, because that is a personal attack and also not pertinent to the discussion.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:59 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Aelex wrote:Seem like someone has refrened sexual pulsions here... :p


I have a hand.

-cricket noises-

Well, this got awkward.

Except masturbation doesn't give you the same benefits.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:01 pm

Godular wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
It's not an insult, it's a fact.

I doubt many people would want to be friends with someone who would start pointing a shotgun at them the moment they overstayed their welcome.


It is a personal insult. You are making assumptions about my personal life based on my position.

I could say that not very many women would wish to be friends with you because you treat them like dirt, but I don't, because that is a personal attack and also not pertinent to the discussion.


Nor is making bad analogies or talking about the necessity of sex.

Nice to know thing's aren't pertinent anymore the moment you feel insulted.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:02 pm

Galloism wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
I have a hand.

-cricket noises-

Well, this got awkward.

Except masturbation doesn't give you the same benefits.


The benefits are sufficient.

I haven't impregnated any women, nor have I put them in the awkward situation of having to choose between childbirth and abortion.

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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:03 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Godular wrote:
It is a personal insult. You are making assumptions about my personal life based on my position.

I could say that not very many women would wish to be friends with you because you treat them like dirt, but I don't, because that is a personal attack and also not pertinent to the discussion.


Nor is making bad analogies or talking about the necessity of sex.

Nice to know thing's aren't pertinent anymore the moment you feel insulted.


Nice to know you resort to personal insults when you can no longer defend your position.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:04 pm

Godular wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Nor is making bad analogies or talking about the necessity of sex.

Nice to know thing's aren't pertinent anymore the moment you feel insulted.


Nice to know you resort to personal insults when you can no longer defend your position.


Again, you're the only one taking it personal.

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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:04 pm

Sanctissima wrote:The benefits are sufficient.

I haven't impregnated any women, nor have I put them in the awkward situation of having to choose between childbirth and abortion.

Was it really a deliberate choice or rather one which had been imposed to you? :p
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:04 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Godular wrote:
It is a personal insult. You are making assumptions about my personal life based on my position.

I could say that not very many women would wish to be friends with you because you treat them like dirt, but I don't, because that is a personal attack and also not pertinent to the discussion.


Nor is making bad analogies or talking about the necessity of sex.

Nice to know thing's aren't pertinent anymore the moment you feel insulted.

Once again, sex is about as necessary as eating your vegetables.

You can survive without vegetables. You may even live to old age without vegetables. However, you will never be as healthy as if you ate vegetables.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:05 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:Except masturbation doesn't give you the same benefits.


The benefits are sufficient.

I haven't impregnated any women, nor have I put them in the awkward situation of having to choose between childbirth and abortion.

The benefits are insufficient for me, and who are you to come between me and my health regimen?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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