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Abortion: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

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Do you support an individual's right to have an abortion?

Yes, absolutely!
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Yes, but only in certain circumstances (please specify in a post)
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No, never!
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Total votes : 1938

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Florida Peninsula
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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:03 am

Look, just want to say. If i am causing ANYONE to be mad(trolling) please tell me.

Just don't want to get banned :(
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:Look, just want to say. If i am causing ANYONE to be mad(trolling) please tell me.

Just don't want to get banned :(

Well, you already flamed in this thread.

Not off to a good start.
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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Galloism wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:So...

So, I'm proposing we force all women to be pregnant at all times they are capable of being so with reasonably low levels of medical risk.

I never said that. Have you heard my argument?
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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Sanctissima wrote:Because in this case, you evidently don't understand part of it.

You obviously seem to be soooooooooo more cultured than me... :roll:
And, dude, it's not because you don't like the fact that I contradict you that I'm forcefully inferior to you.
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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Galloism wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:Look, just want to say. If i am causing ANYONE to be mad(trolling) please tell me.

Just don't want to get banned :(

Well, you already flamed in this thread.

Not off to a good start.

I flamed?

You also flamed no offense.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Galloism wrote:So, I'm proposing we force all women to be pregnant at all times they are capable of being so with reasonably low levels of medical risk.

I never said that. Have you heard my argument?

Yep - that the potential is so important we can't allow it to be missed.

I'm just logically following it to the conclusion.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, you already flamed in this thread.

Not off to a good start.

I flamed?

You also flamed no offense.

Feel free to report anything you feel was a flame.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:04 am

Galloism wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
And I'm saying that unless it's life-threatening, the fetus' life is more important than it's mother's medical concerns.

And we're not- because we value bodily sovereignty.

Just like I cannot force you to give me a kidney, I cannot force a woman to use her body as an incubator against her will. It's unethical, immoral, and just flat out wrong.


But the fetus is there because of a choice she made. She should not have the right to kill something that relies on her for it's survival due to prior actions. Actions done by her.

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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:That is not true.

When the Americans dropped the bomb, the inventor actually cried when he heard it on the news.

Please read your history.


:roll:

Aelex wrote:Why do all people who don't know a shit about history always try to pick me on history? :eyebrow:
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:So many lost great people!

hypocrite.

Lrn to sarcasm.

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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 am

Galloism wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:I never said that. Have you heard my argument?

Yep - that the potential is so important we can't allow it to be missed.

I'm just logically following it to the conclusion.

Welcome to nature, my friend.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:And we're not- because we value bodily sovereignty.

Just like I cannot force you to give me a kidney, I cannot force a woman to use her body as an incubator against her will. It's unethical, immoral, and just flat out wrong.


But the fetus is there because of a choice she made.


So what?

She should not have the right to kill something that relies on her for it's survival due to prior actions. Actions done by her.


So, if you rear-end my car, shredding my kidneys, I can demand a kidney from you and they will strap you down to a table and take it whether you like or not?

Ghastly.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Godular » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Galloism wrote:And we're not- because we value bodily sovereignty.

Just like I cannot force you to give me a kidney, I cannot force a woman to use her body as an incubator against her will. It's unethical, immoral, and just flat out wrong.


But the fetus is there because of a choice she made. She should not have the right to kill something that relies on her for it's survival due to prior actions. Actions done by her.


So pregnancy is a punishment. gotcha.
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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:06 am

Aelex wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:And for exterminate people and show U.S superiority...

That is not true.

When the Americans dropped the bomb, the inventor actually cried when he heard it on the news.

Please read your history.


:roll:

Aelex wrote:Why do all people who don't know a shit about history always try to pick me on history? :eyebrow:
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Really, I will get revenge on you :p
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:06 am

Aelex wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:Because in this case, you evidently don't understand part of it.

You obviously seem to be soooooooooo more cultured than me... :roll:
And, dude, it's not because you don't like the fact that I contradict you that I'm forcefully inferior to you.


Now what are you on about?

I pointed out that you don't know why Einstein agreed to help invent the atomic bomb.

Not that you're culturally backwards or intellectually inferior.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:07 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Galloism wrote:The porn industry alone has killed hundreds of trillions.

Well, those guys are idiots. Who wants that job anyway.

Pro Choice people lol

This is a truly rude statement.

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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:07 am

Godular wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
But the fetus is there because of a choice she made. She should not have the right to kill something that relies on her for it's survival due to prior actions. Actions done by her.


So pregnancy is a punishment. gotcha.


It's not a punishment. It's a responsibility.

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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:07 am

Aelex wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:


...
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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:08 am

Aelex wrote:Herp Derp Herp Derp I need to go to the bathroom. I might Explode


I think you will.
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Postby Sanctissima » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:08 am

Galloism wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
But the fetus is there because of a choice she made.


So what?

She should not have the right to kill something that relies on her for it's survival due to prior actions. Actions done by her.


So, if you rear-end my car, shredding my kidneys, I can demand a kidney from you and they will strap you down to a table and take it whether you like or not?

Ghastly.


Ideally, yes.

It's my fault that you're dying. If I can prevent it, I should be forced to do so.

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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:08 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:Well, those guys are idiots. Who wants that job anyway.

Pro Choice people lol

This is a truly rude statement.



Lol, ok. Sorry :blush:
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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:08 am

Sanctissima wrote:Now what are you on about?

I pointed out that you don't know why Einstein agreed to help invent the atomic bomb.

Not that you're culturally backwards or intellectually inferior.

He agreed to help because he wanted to show his genius and to contribute to Science.
But that doesn't change the fact that he is a war criminal.
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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:09 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Aelex wrote:Herp Derp Herp Derp I need to go to the bathroom. I might Explode


I think you will.

Really :eyebrow:
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:09 am

Florida Peninsula wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:This is a truly rude statement.



Lol, ok. Sorry :blush:

No, you're not. Don't bullshit.

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Postby Florida Peninsula » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:09 am

Aelex wrote:
Florida Peninsula wrote:
I think you will.

Really :eyebrow:

:rofl:
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