Abortion: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

I'm talking about maternal life at risk. A run down hospital in Zimbabwe has nothing to do with this. Maternal Life at risk is a thing, you realize.

Yeah, deliberately misrepresenting my argument. Maternal Life at risk ring a bell?

As I said, the odds are not that high.

And usually, in the developed world, if doctors realize the mother is going to die, they can save her in time.

A: There's still a possibility.

B: Like how?

[Godular]

You're treating its potential to make it to birth as superior to the woman's actual right to determine what happens to her own body. There are any number of things that can happen to the fetus that would terminate the pregnancy before it comes to term, what's one more?

Because believe it or not, the chances of the pregnancy actually ending well are pretty good. This isn't the Medieval Age, medical science is advanced.

Irrelevant. Argument from potential is worthless. Focus on what actually is than what might be.

[Sanctissima]

Hence, adoption.

Nobody's saying that pregnancy and raising children is easy.

We're simply saying that the second part is optional.

The first one also.

No, pro-choicers are the ones saying that.

Pro-lifers, on the other hand, are not.

[Florida Peninsula]

She has to give birth.

Why? Because the baby is younger. The baby needs to live.

*sigh*

It's obvious you haven't taken a damn thing since last time. Fair enough. It seems ignorance clouds all. So lets start from square one.

Because the baby is younger. The baby needs to live.

This isn't even a point. This is just a random statement.

She has to give birth.

So basically you'd risk the mother's life and violate her rights for something that doesn't have rights?

RIP constitution

Also, my sentences are revenant. I know you understand. No offense.

But lets put it to this, The baby HAS RIGHTS. It is Sentient. Also, I am not ignorant. The baby is younger thing MAKES sense. He is younger, that is why almost ALL parents will be willing to risk their lives for the child(I bet the pro choice ones don't though)

[Godular]

The first one also.

No, pro-choicers are the ones saying that.

Pro-lifers, on the other hand, are not.

Which is the problem. You're forcing a woman to do something against her will. This is wrong.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

*sigh*

It's obvious you haven't taken a damn thing since last time. Fair enough. It seems ignorance clouds all. So lets start from square one.

This isn't even a point. This is just a random statement.

So basically you'd risk the mother's life and violate her rights for something that doesn't have rights?

RIP constitution

What? What the hell are you saying now?

[Sanctissima]

Because believe it or not, the chances of the pregnancy actually ending well are pretty good. This isn't the Medieval Age, medical science is advanced.

Irrelevant. Argument from potential is worthless. Focus on what actually is than what might be.

Right, because the moment I debunk one of your side's arguments, it suddenly becomes irrelevant anyway.

Do please direct me to your supposedly relevant arguments. I'll be happy to render them meaningless too.

[Sanctissima]

No, pro-choicers are the ones saying that.

Pro-lifers, on the other hand, are not.

Which is the problem. You're forcing a woman to do something against her will. This is wrong.

I didn't say it was right.

I said it was better than killing the fetus, which is considerably more wrong.

[Godular]

Irrelevant. Argument from potential is worthless. Focus on what actually is than what might be.

Right, because the moment I debunk one of your side's arguments, it suddenly becomes irrelevant anyway.

Do please direct me to your supposedly relevant arguments. I'll be happy to render them meaningless too.

You first. You have not debunked a damn thing.

[Florida Peninsula]

RIP constitution

What? What the hell are you saying now?

Can you please edit what I say first before replying?

[Godular]

Which is the problem. You're forcing a woman to do something against her will. This is wrong.

I didn't say it was right.

I said it was better than killing the fetus, which is considerably more wrong.

No, it is not. It is not killing anything. It is removing a foreign invader from a person who does not wish it to remain there.

[Florida Peninsula]

RIP constitution

What? What the hell are you saying now?

"...something that doesn't have rights?"

[Sanctissima]

As I said, the odds are not that high.

And usually, in the developed world, if doctors realize the mother is going to die, they can save her in time.

A: There's still a possibility.

B: Like how?

A: I'm not saying there isn't, I'm saying that it's extremely low.

B: Aborting the child at the last minute. Or lots of anesthetic and surgery.

[Godular]

What? What the hell are you saying now?

"...something that doesn't have rights?"

It needs to be born in order to have rights.

[Sanctissima]

Right, because the moment I debunk one of your side's arguments, it suddenly becomes irrelevant anyway.

Do please direct me to your supposedly relevant arguments. I'll be happy to render them meaningless too.

You first. You have not debunked a damn thing.

If you'd have the courtesy of reading my original argument, please do so.

I am the OP after all.

[Aelex]

No, pro-choicers are the ones saying that.

Pro-lifers, on the other hand, are not.

So you pro-lifer don't know what miscarriage is?

[Godular]

You first. You have not debunked a damn thing.

If you'd have the courtesy of reading my original argument, please do so.

I am the OP after all.

Good for you. You're still wrong. Getting an abortion IS taking responsibility.

Sex ain't just for procreation.

[Florida Peninsula]

"...something that doesn't have rights?"

It needs to be born in order to have rights.

Sources?

[Sanctissima]

I didn't say it was right.

I said it was better than killing the fetus, which is considerably more wrong.

No, it is not. It is not killing anything. It is removing a foreign invader from a person who does not wish it to remain there.

Right, "foreign invader", that's nice.

Well, I've heard the word "parasite" used every now and then, so I suppose this is an advancement.

The fetus is there because of the mother's actions. She has a responsibility to give birth to it.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

But lets put it to this, The baby HAS RIGHTS.

A baby does. A fetus doesn't.

It is Sentient.

The ability to feel pain is embedded in a lot of living organism, but that still doesn't make it wrong to kill them.

The baby is younger thing MAKES sense. He is younger, that is why almost ALL parents will be willing to risk their lives for the child

No, it doesn't. Whether or not you're pro-life or pro-choice has really no matter on risking you're life for the *fetus.

[Galloism]

No, it is not. It is not killing anything. It is removing a foreign invader from a person who does not wish it to remain there.

Right, "foreign invader", that's nice.

Well, I've heard the word "parasite" used every now and then, so I suppose this is an advancement.

The fetus is there because of the mother's actions. She has a responsibility to give birth to it.

That's why we don't treat people who get injured in car accidents. Their injuries are due to their own actions, and they have a responsibility to deal with them.

[Aelex]

RIP constitution

Also, my sentences are revenant. I know you understand. No offense.

But lets put it to this, The baby HAS RIGHTS. It is Sentient. Also, I am not ignorant. The baby is younger thing MAKES sense. He is younger, that is why almost ALL parents will be willing to risk their lives for the child(I bet the pro choice ones don't though)

Goo have the ability to reason? Diantre, it explain why my yogurt was staring me this morning...

[Sanctissima]

If you'd have the courtesy of reading my original argument, please do so.

I am the OP after all.

Good for you. You're still wrong. Getting an abortion IS taking responsibility.

Sex ain't just for procreation.

Murder is rarely a responsible course of action.

And sex has consequences too. Who knew.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

No, it is not. It is not killing anything. It is removing a foreign invader from a person who does not wish it to remain there.

Right, "foreign invader", that's nice.

Well, I've heard the word "parasite" used every now and then, so I suppose this is an advancement.

The fetus is there because of the mother's actions. She has a responsibility to give birth to it.

No she doesn't. She doesn't sacrifice her bodily sovereignty for the right to have sexual intercourse.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Good for you. You're still wrong. Getting an abortion IS taking responsibility.

Sex ain't just for procreation.

Murder is rarely a responsible course of action.

And sex has consequences too. Who knew.

Murder however is separate.

And sex is usually taken with precautions. Let me introduce you to what a condom is.