Life of a Commoner in an anarchist society

[Democratic Koyro]

The allies were attacked by Nazi Germany, and America joined in because the Third Reich's somewhat friend Japan attacked them, so they joined the allies against the Nazis who were currently invading all of fucking Europe at the time and trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust.

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

Yes, i'm very thankful to the Stalinist Soviet Army for destroying the Nazis and their Genocidal regime.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

Uhhh....

Dealt with, as if anyone tries to do a coup, he/she should be stopped.

Yeah, I was thinking of that. Just that, with a sentence like that, and the responses you got, be careful with wording.

[New Unsociety]

Killing those who disagree is one thing. I do NOT advocate this.
Stopping those who would INITIATE FORCE to bring a dictatorship is another.
Ideas are one thing. Actions are another.

Except you pretty much did advocate for that

Okay, maybe i should clarify.
Koryo said that he would have no problem ACTING in a way that would bring about dictatorship (e.g. bringing in a dictator).
That's what i responded to.
I'm not going to go kill Koryo because he believes in authoritarian crap.

[The Liberated Territories]

All large societies need a monopoly on violence to keep themselves alive. The only thing stopping a statist takeover of an anarchist society is the AnSoc having a strong enough militia to protect itself from dissent.

.......apologies for mistyping. Monopoly on the initiation of force.

Actually according to anarchist theory monopoly on violence is correct. We can speculate whether a society may or may not need a monopoly of force to function (it definitely need some coercion). Only that said coercion is justified if it doesn't violate the non-aggression principle.

[The New Sea Territory]

Name me a reasonable, advanced, successful anarchist society

We all know what happened to experiments with perfect communism, it was a complete and utter failure

Stating that one doesn't exist disproves nothing other than the claim that one does exist, which no one made. Again, you're making the same arguments monarchists made against republicans in France.

So, Now you're talking about Vanguardist Marxism as if it's somehow related....

[New Unsociety]

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

Yes, i'm very thankful to the Stalinist Soviet Army for destroying the Nazis and their Genocidal regime.

Can you explain me how the Royal Air Force or the US Army were stalinist?

[Democratic Koyro]

Except you pretty much did advocate for that

Okay, maybe i should clarify.
Koryo said that he would have no problem ACTING in a way that would bring about dictatorship (e.g. bringing in a dictator).
That's what i responded to.
I'm not going to go kill Koryo because he believes in authoritarian crap.

"If you vote for the wrong person you die"

top kek.

Luckily i don't vote.

[New Unsociety]

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

What

Seriously

where in bullshit land did you pull this from

Well, he DID claim that those who fought the nazis in WW2 were all stalinists.

[Ripoll]

Name me a reasonable, advanced, successful anarchist society

We all know what happened to experiments with perfect communism, it was a complete and utter failure

Stating that one doesn't exist disproves nothing other than the claim that one does exist, which no one made. Again, you're making the same arguments monarchists made against republicans in France.

So, Now you're talking about Vanguardist Marxism as if it's somehow related....

Except before Monarchism in france, there was y'know the Roman Republic the most successful civilization in the ancient world.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Not to be meant as a criticism of Anarchist theory, but more of a general question on my part.

Exactly how do Anarchists propose dealing with issues of warlords and other armed bands, such as gangs and Mafiosi and mercenaries?

States, IIRC, deal with them via extreme, coercive force, so if an Anarchist society is against coercive force, how does it protect against from less anarchist-minded strongmen getting enough bandits together to form armies?

Follow up questions include "How does an anarchist society solve disputes?", "How would an anarchist society deal with an influx of less anarchistic peoples, such as Al Qaeda or other fundamentalist extremists?", and "How would an Anarchist society maintain living standards as they are now if they require massive economies of scale?"

I'm not well versed in anarchist philosophy and most works on the subject are pretty dense and hard to break into.

[New Unsociety]

Okay, maybe i should clarify.
Koryo said that he would have no problem ACTING in a way that would bring about dictatorship (e.g. bringing in a dictator).
That's what i responded to.
I'm not going to go kill Koryo because he believes in authoritarian crap.

"If you vote for the wrong person you die"

top kek.

Luckily i don't vote.

I was talking about an anarchist society.
I said
"your kind will be very few in an anarchist society"
As in, people with no moral qualms in bringing dictatorship even by force.
Those who actually try it will be dealt with.

[Ziegenhain]

Except you pretty much did advocate for that

Okay, maybe i should clarify.
Koryo said that he would have no problem ACTING in a way that would bring about dictatorship (e.g. bringing in a dictator).
That's what i responded to.
I'm not going to go kill Koryo because he believes in authoritarian crap.

What if he casts his vote for voting for a dictatorship

Is that enough to get rid of his evil ideological ways?

[Democratic Koyro]

"If you vote for the wrong person you die"

top kek.

Luckily i don't vote.

I was talking about an anarchist society.
I said
"your kind will be very few in an anarchist society"
As in, people with no moral qualms in bringing dictatorship even by force.
Those who actually try it will be dealt with.

Good thing the State will stop terrorists from creating hell on earth then.

[The New Sea Territory]

Stating that one doesn't exist disproves nothing other than the claim that one does exist, which no one made. Again, you're making the same arguments monarchists made against republicans in France.

So, Now you're talking about Vanguardist Marxism as if it's somehow related....

Except before Monarchism in france, there was y'know the Roman Republic the most successful civilization in the ancient world.

Rome was a republic in every way except when it actually came to being a Republic.

[New Unsociety]

I was talking about an anarchist society.
I said
"your kind will be very few in an anarchist society"
As in, people with no moral qualms in bringing dictatorship even by force.
Those who actually try it will be dealt with.

Good thing the State will stop terrorists from creating hell on earth then.

So, you support the "right" to bring about dictatorship by force without being stopped?

[Ziegenhain]

What

Seriously

where in bullshit land did you pull this from

Well, he DID claim that those who fought the nazis in WW2 were all stalinists.

Where does he say this

because he did not

[Ripoll]

Except before Monarchism in france, there was y'know the Roman Republic the most successful civilization in the ancient world.

Rome was a republic in every way except when it actually came to being a Republic.

Those were the latter years, and it did by definition function as a republic up until Caeser

[New Unsociety]

Okay, maybe i should clarify.
Koryo said that he would have no problem ACTING in a way that would bring about dictatorship (e.g. bringing in a dictator).
That's what i responded to.
I'm not going to go kill Koryo because he believes in authoritarian crap.

What if he casts his vote for voting for a dictatorship

Is that enough to get rid of his evil ideological ways?

In anarchism there will be no elections, but direct democracy, decisions on issues. The only way to bring in a dictator will be by force.

[Democratic Koyro]

Good thing the State will stop terrorists from creating hell on earth then.

So, you support the "right" to bring about dictatorship by force without being stopped?

If it destroys an Anarchy then yep. No problems with that at all. Of course a Dictatorship would be preferable to Democracy anyway.

[New Unsociety]

Well, he DID claim that those who fought the nazis in WW2 were all stalinists.

Where does he say this

because he did not

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

Yes, i'm very thankful to the Stalinist Soviet Army for destroying the Nazis and their Genocidal regime.

[Ziegenhain]

What if he casts his vote for voting for a dictatorship

Is that enough to get rid of his evil ideological ways?

In anarchism there will be no elections, but direct democracy, decisions on issues. The only way to bring in a dictator will be by force.

So then i vote in this direct democracy that brings us closer to dictatorship

boom

[New Unsociety]

So, you support the "right" to bring about dictatorship by force without being stopped?

If it destroys an Anarchy then yep. No problems with that at all. Of course a Dictatorship would be preferable to Democracy anyway.

Well, ONLY if you try and ACT on that "right" will you be stopped.

[Ziegenhain]

Where does he say this

because he did not

Yes, i'm very thankful to the Stalinist Soviet Army for destroying the Nazis and their Genocidal regime.

Soviet Army in WW2 was during the Stalinist era.

He's just stating that he's thankful for them stopping Hitler's nazi regime since they were the reason the war in Europe against the Nazis was a victory.

[The New Sea Territory]

I was talking about an anarchist society.
I said
"your kind will be very few in an anarchist society"
As in, people with no moral qualms in bringing dictatorship even by force.
Those who actually try it will be dealt with.

Good thing the State will stop terrorists from creating hell on earth then.

I'm not a terrorist. Personally, I'm a pacifist, though I don't advocate society be built on pacifism.

Not to be meant as a criticism of Anarchist theory, but more of a general question on my part.

Exactly how do Anarchists propose dealing with issues of warlords and other armed bands, such as gangs and Mafiosi and mercenaries?

States, IIRC, deal with them via extreme, coercive force, so if an Anarchist society is against coercive force, how does it protect against from less anarchist-minded strongmen getting enough bandits together to form armies?

Follow up questions include "How does an anarchist society solve disputes?", "How would an anarchist society deal with an influx of less anarchistic peoples, such as Al Qaeda or other fundamentalist extremists?", and "How would an Anarchist society maintain living standards as they are now if they require massive economies of scale?"

I'm not well versed in anarchist philosophy and most works on the subject are pretty dense and hard to break into.

Basically, the same was as now. Reacting to violence with violence is completely acceptable, arbitration can be handled via third party arbitration companies or courts of some sort. Living standards would be a bit more difficult, admittedly, but manageable through the federation, which is the union of all the various collectives, communes and communities in a region.

Really, the only difference is that the initiation of force is no longer acceptable.

[New Unsociety]

In anarchism there will be no elections, but direct democracy, decisions on issues. The only way to bring in a dictator will be by force.

So then i vote in this direct democracy that brings us closer to dictatorship

boom

If the vast majority support anarchy, you will be in the minority and ignored.
If not, then just like republics, anarchy cannot last. Still, better than republics or dictatorships.