Life of a Commoner in an anarchist society

[Democratic Koyro]

2)Unless you are one of Kim's clique with Internet access, you are one of the very few in the West that are against democracy. Your kind will also be very few in an anarchist society, few enough to be dealt with, by lethal force if needed.

There's quite a good many in the west that don't like democracy. Don't know where this thinking that being a Westerner means you like democracy came from.

Also, thanks for the weird future death threat I suppose. I like knowing I'll be a suspected criminal because of my viewpoints.

Stalin called by the way. Wanted to congratulate you on your ideological purging.

What do you expect? Pol Pot is the Hero of every Anarchist.

[The New Sea Territory]

Nothing was debunked as far as i'm concerned. I have seen no evidence that Anarchy would be anything other than hell on earth.

That's because you've seen no evidence at all, remember? You refuse to even understand the political ideology.

[Ripoll]

I don't care about your propaganda theories at all. I care about the reality, and the reality is this:

If you're gonna keep using that post, that NST already analyzed and debunked, and keeping calling our theories "popugada," Then get the fuck out. If you want to be stupid, Fine, but be stupid somewhere else.

Debunked? I'm sorry, when has an anarchist ever developed a stable society that keeps high median incomes and high standards of living? All this ideological stupidity can be entertaining at times, and philosophy is very interesting, but frankly people naturally create Governments. And Governments are consented to by the people, the vast majority of citizens don't have a damn problem, though they admit taxes are a pain, because they like what Government provides. And the vast majority of people don't want change, we don't want to get rid of Government.

That's where all this fails, people don't like anarchy, they don't want it. Never pay attention to how unrealistic it is in the first place.

[The New Sea Territory]

What do you expect? Pol Pot is the Hero of every Anarchist.

[New Unsociety]

2)Unless you are one of Kim's clique with Internet access, you are one of the very few in the West that are against democracy. Your kind will also be very few in an anarchist society, few enough to be dealt with, by lethal force if needed.

Mass killings against those who oppose you? Cool. Anarchy = Totalitarian style political killings. Another one to add to the list.

the 2 was referring to Al-Assad. Although if Kimmy J Junior was the only alternative to Anarchist Murderers then i'd quite happily choose him. That or refuse to vote like i do now.

Everyone will be free but those that actively try to subvert the freedom of others. Would-be oppressors deserve no freedom, respect is either mutual or none.

If you like NK so much why not hop over there?

[Democratic Koyro]

Nothing was debunked as far as i'm concerned. I have seen no evidence that Anarchy would be anything other than hell on earth.

That's because you've seen no evidence at all, remember? You refuse to even understand the political ideology.

I understand the reality of what you propose clear enough. You are blinded by your own selfish ideological propaganda.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

If you're gonna keep using that post, that NST already analyzed and debunked, and keeping calling our theories "popugada," Then get the fuck out. If you want to be stupid, Fine, but be stupid somewhere else.

Nothing was debunked as far as i'm concerned. I have seen no evidence that Anarchy would be anything other than hell on earth.

You keep your head low in your backwards, poverty stricken, under educated part of town.

Assumptions.

You have no means real currency,

Assuming we aren't talking about ancapism or agorism.

no accountability,

Hahahahaha.

no safety net,

If we're talking about social anarchism, things are distributed according to need.

no opportunity,

.....more assumptions based on no evidence.

no real incentive to advance or learn.

Are you saying people don't have any aspects of self-interest at all just because the state is gone...?

Just day to day, week by week, no time to care about the future.

Vague, meaningless talk.

A society without leadership or laws isn't a society at all.

Good thing an anarchist society has leaders (the people themselves) and laws.

[Democratic Koyro]

Mass killings against those who oppose you? Cool. Anarchy = Totalitarian style political killings. Another one to add to the list.

the 2 was referring to Al-Assad. Although if Kimmy J Junior was the only alternative to Anarchist Murderers then i'd quite happily choose him. That or refuse to vote like i do now.

Everyone will be free but those that actively try to subvert the freedom of others. Would-be oppressors deserve no freedom, respect is either mutual or none.

If you like NK so much why not hop over there?

Ah, so you support the Stalinist approach to bringing about Communisms' final goal?

[New Unsociety]

Everyone will be free but those that actively try to subvert the freedom of others. Would-be oppressors deserve no freedom, respect is either mutual or none.

If you like NK so much why not hop over there?

Ah, so you support the Stalinist approach to bringing about Communisms' final goal?

And what is that approach exactly? Is defending freedom from would-be dictators with lethal force stalinist? I guess the Allies in WW2 were stalinist then.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

2) Yep.

2)Unless you are one of Kim's clique with Internet access, you are one of the very few in the West that are against democracy. Your kind will also be very few in an anarchist society, few enough to be dealt with, by lethal force if needed.

Uhhh....Be careful with wording.

[Ripoll]

Nothing was debunked as far as i'm concerned. I have seen no evidence that Anarchy would be anything other than hell on earth.

That's because you've seen no evidence at all, remember? You refuse to even understand the political ideology.

Anarchists have theoretical scenarios and thousands of well thought out word play.

No real means of economic, cultural, environmental sustainability. No real anarchistic models

nothing

This is why academics don't take anarchists seriously, and status quo society doesn't have the time or interest to even begin seriously debunking it. It's lack of historical success is enough to not even bother.

[Ziegenhain]

Mass killings against those who oppose you? Cool. Anarchy = Totalitarian style political killings. Another one to add to the list.

the 2 was referring to Al-Assad. Although if Kimmy J Junior was the only alternative to Anarchist Murderers then i'd quite happily choose him. That or refuse to vote like i do now.

Everyone will be free but those that actively try to subvert the freedom of others. Would-be oppressors deserve no freedom, respect is either mutual or none.

If you like NK so much why not hop over there?

"Hey guys, we should become a free and voluntary anarchist society, but then purge all those who oppose our ideals of freedom and love by executing all the ideological traitors!"

[New Unsociety]

2)Unless you are one of Kim's clique with Internet access, you are one of the very few in the West that are against democracy. Your kind will also be very few in an anarchist society, few enough to be dealt with, by lethal force if needed.

Uhhh....

Dealt with, as if anyone tries to do a coup, he/she should be stopped.

[Democratic Koyro]

Ah, so you support the Stalinist approach to bringing about Communisms' final goal?

And what is that approach exactly? Is defending freedom from would-be dictators with lethal force stalinist? I guess the Allies in WW2 were stalinist then.

Well the Soviets were certainly.

[Ziegenhain]

Ah, so you support the Stalinist approach to bringing about Communisms' final goal?

And what is that approach exactly? Is defending freedom from would-be dictators with lethal force stalinist? I guess the Allies in WW2 were stalinist then.

The allies were attacked by Nazi Germany, and America joined in because the Third Reich's somewhat friend Japan attacked them, so they joined the allies against the Nazis who were currently invading all of fucking Europe at the time and trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust.

[Ripoll]

Nothing was debunked as far as i'm concerned. I have seen no evidence that Anarchy would be anything other than hell on earth.

Assumptions.



Assuming we aren't talking about ancapism or agorism.



Hahahahaha.



If we're talking about social anarchism, things are distributed according to need.



.....more assumptions based on no evidence.



Are you saying people don't have any aspects of self-interest at all just because the state is gone...?



Vague, meaningless talk.



Good thing an anarchist society has leaders (the people themselves) and laws.

Name me a reasonable, advanced, successful anarchist society

We all know what happened to experiments with perfect communism, it was a complete and utter failure

[New Unsociety]

Everyone will be free but those that actively try to subvert the freedom of others. Would-be oppressors deserve no freedom, respect is either mutual or none.

If you like NK so much why not hop over there?

"Hey guys, we should become a free and voluntary anarchist society, but then purge all those who oppose our ideals of freedom and love by executing all the ideological traitors!"

Killing those who disagree is one thing. I do NOT advocate this.
Stopping those who would INITIATE FORCE to bring a dictatorship is another.
Ideas are one thing. Actions are another.

[Democratic Koyro]

"Hey guys, we should become a free and voluntary anarchist society, but then purge all those who oppose our ideals of freedom and love by executing all the ideological traitors!"

Killing those who disagree is one thing. I do NOT advocate this.
Stopping those who would INITIATE FORCE to bring a dictatorship is another.
Ideas are one thing. Actions are another.

Yes you do. You've just said as much.

[The New Sea Territory]

Debunked? I'm sorry, when has an anarchist ever developed a stable society that keeps high median incomes and high standards of living?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

But, for an example, Anarchist Catalonia. Secondly, stating that because there is not an example of it in the past does not mean there could not be one in the future. You're making the same arguments monarchists made against early Enlightened liberals, and all of them were, of course, wrong.

All this ideological stupidity can be entertaining at times, and philosophy is very interesting, but frankly people naturally create Governments.

Anarchism never claimed to abolish government, but to abolish statism as the current form of government and replace it with socialist direct democracy (social anarchism) or autarchism/agorism/anarcho-capitalism/etc (individualist anarchism)

And Governments are consented to by the people,

Yes, a federation of democratic collectives.

the vast majority of citizens don't have a damn problem, though they admit taxes are a pain, because they like what Government provides. And the vast majority of people don't want change, we don't want to get rid of Government.

Good thing anarchists don't either. We want to get rid of the state. And all of those services can be provided by cooperatives or markets.

That's where all this fails, people don't like anarchy, they don't want it. Never pay attention to how unrealistic it is in the first place.

So, you're just taking a meaningless criticism that can apply to anything and applying to anarchism, along with misunderstanding what anarchism is?

[Solaray]

the problem with that definition is applies to all societies.

well yeah just like all high technology, it can only be produced by a state.

Except when it doesn't, sure.

Why? Initiated Violence is necessary for any technological development? Need is the mother of invention, not murder.

All large societies need a monopoly on violence to keep themselves alive. The only thing stopping a statist takeover of an anarchist society is the AnSoc having a strong enough militia to protect itself from dissent.

[Ziegenhain]

"Hey guys, we should become a free and voluntary anarchist society, but then purge all those who oppose our ideals of freedom and love by executing all the ideological traitors!"

Killing those who disagree is one thing. I do NOT advocate this.
Stopping those who would INITIATE FORCE to bring a dictatorship is another.
Ideas are one thing. Actions are another.

Except you pretty much did advocate for that

[The New Sea Territory]

Killing those who disagree is one thing. I do NOT advocate this.
Stopping those who would INITIATE FORCE to bring a dictatorship is another.
Ideas are one thing. Actions are another.

Yes you do.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

"I tell you what you believe!"

[New Unsociety]

And what is that approach exactly? Is defending freedom from would-be dictators with lethal force stalinist? I guess the Allies in WW2 were stalinist then.

The allies were attacked by Nazi Germany, and America joined in because the Third Reich's somewhat friend Japan attacked them, so they joined the allies against the Nazis who were currently invading all of fucking Europe at the time and trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust.

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

[The New Sea Territory]

Except when it doesn't, sure.

Why? Initiated Violence is necessary for any technological development? Need is the mother of invention, not murder.

All large societies need a monopoly on violence to keep themselves alive. The only thing stopping a statist takeover of an anarchist society is the AnSoc having a strong enough militia to protect itself from dissent.

.......apologies for mistyping. Monopoly on the initiation of force.

[Ziegenhain]

The allies were attacked by Nazi Germany, and America joined in because the Third Reich's somewhat friend Japan attacked them, so they joined the allies against the Nazis who were currently invading all of fucking Europe at the time and trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust.

"trying to do this wonderful thing called the holocaust"
And ofc, according to Koryo's logic, stopping the Holocaust by decimating Hitler's armies was "stalinist".

What

Seriously

where in bullshit land did you pull this from