Life of a Commoner in an anarchist society

[Democratic Koyro]

Anarchy is impossible, people do not want to starve to death and be murdered.

That is not anarchy. Do you even know what anarchism or anarchist theory is?

I know what Anarchy and Anarchism are but i don't care to learn what anarchist theory is. Sounds like attempts to justify the most reprehensible beliefs.

[MERIZoC]

Yes. I believe anarchy is only possible with communism.

What about syndicalism, mutualism, agorism and the dozens of other anarchist theories?

What exactly is agorism? First time hearing about it, and Wikipedia's not too clear.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

Nope. Anarchism is a political ideology advocating for the abolition of coercive hierarchies. The state most obviously, but different schools of thought interpret it differently.

Nope, Anarchism is the promotion of dangerous ideas that propose destroying the State.

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

[The New Sea Territory]

What about syndicalism, mutualism, agorism and the dozens of other anarchist theories?

Or syndicalism. Or mutualism. Anything with the producer, the worker, at the base. Just not ancap.

I usually say anarcho-capitalism could exist alongside other anarchist systems (basically, people drop out of the socialist society and live in a specific community that practices capitalism). Alone, though, it wouldn't be anarchistic.

[The New Sea Territory]

Nope. Anarchism is a political ideology advocating for the abolition of coercive hierarchies. The state most obviously, but different schools of thought interpret it differently.

Nope, Anarchism is the promotion of dangerous ideas that propose destroying the State.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Either learn anarchist theories or continue to vigorously spray ignorance all over this thread.

[Democratic Koyro]

Nope, Anarchism is the promotion of dangerous ideas that propose destroying the State.

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and without the State there is no civilization and the modern world would be destroyed.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

That is not anarchy. Do you even know what anarchism or anarchist theory is?

I know what Anarchy and Anarchism are but i don't care to learn what anarchist theory is.

Then you have no fucking clue what Anarchism is if you don't bother to understand the theory of it.

[The New Sea Territory]

What about syndicalism, mutualism, agorism and the dozens of other anarchist theories?

What exactly is agorism? First time hearing about it, and Wikipedia's not too clear.

Left-wing market anarchism. I think it's geolibertarianism mixed with anarchism.

[Meryuma]

No. Anarchism is a political philosophy, seeking the abolition of hierarchical structures such as the State or capitalism, and replacing them with non-hierarchical, democratic, egalitarian, free associations.

By killing 99% of the worlds' population through starvation and disease due to a collapse of governing bodies.

After all, all food originates from the state... oh wait.

to keep away outsiders

You're the only one saying anything about keeping away outsiders.

yeah, this 'Anarchist' nonsense only seems to work if they murder every single person who doesn't conform to anarchist mentality.

Which is why all anarchist-run spaces in the contemporary world violently expel all non-anarchists... oh wait.

There can't be.

Right.

We have a.) anarcho-communism, which seeks to supplant the individual to the tyranny of the majority, where his liberty is dependent on them entirely, and b.) anarcho-primitivism, which takes away numerous of technological tools that make even old granny in a wheelchair more independent.

Most anarcho-communists don't advocate straight-up majoritarianism. You're also forgetting about mutualism, which is a market socialist form of anarchism.

It is the failure of the state, and therefore the failure of civilization.

No, it is a society based on non-hierarchical institutions.

Anarchy is hell

No, but Hell could be anarchy.

Lucifer is a figurehead, the sinners self-manage their punishment.

[Ziegenhain]

Nope, Anarchism is the promotion of dangerous ideas that propose destroying the State.

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and poses a danger to all

what if i don't want your so called voluntary and free anarchist society and I want to keep my state?

[Democratic Koyro]

Nope, Anarchism is the promotion of dangerous ideas that propose destroying the State.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Either learn anarchist theories or continue to vigorously spray ignorance all over this thread.

Not going to waste my time with your propaganda.

[The New Sea Territory]

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and without the State there is no civilization and the modern world would be destroyed.

[New Unsociety]

1)Well, again, good luck to the would-be dictator to find enough experienced people to join his crusade out of a society of people taught since they were three years old that solidarity is the way to go. An army of 300 cannot stand to an army of let's say 10 000 in a series of confrontations. Also, they wouldn't even dare it.

2)I'm trying to say that a system relying on the people cannot continue without the support of the people. This includes today's republics. If today's republics can make it, why not anarchy?

1)You haven't the clue of how military strategy works. There are many instances were a smaller force which should have lost by all means was able to win over their larger enemy force.

Oh and I like how we're indoctrinating children to think a certain way. That's always free and democratic right? Let's not let them think for themselves at all

2)Today's republics don't need to rely entirely on the people. Just enough for them to vote for them in and then the politicians do what they want. This is why democracy is a bloody failure.

1)Yes, but never did the smaller force initiate force. It was always desperate defence, slavery or death if they lost. Why should anyone living in equality and no slavery attempt a most likely suicidal act for greed?

"Oh and I like how we're indoctrinating children to think a certain way. That's always free and democratic right? Let's not let them think for themselves at all"
Because today's system is better, being taught that "democracy" (actually republic and crapitalism) is the best system!

"Today's republics don't need to rely entirely on the people. Just enough for them to vote for them in and then the politicians do what they want."
But what if the people vote a dictator that then abolishes democracy? (not falling for Poe's Law here either)

[The New Sea Territory]

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Either learn anarchist theories or continue to vigorously spray ignorance all over this thread.

Not going to waste my time with your propaganda.

I wasn't aware the Yourlogicalfallacyis.com site was anarchist propaganda. I see progressives, conservatives and Marxists use it regularly.

[The Liberated Territories]

What exactly is agorism? First time hearing about it, and Wikipedia's not too clear.

Left-wing market anarchism. I think it's geolibertarianism mixed with anarchism.

That's geoanarchism. Rather, agorism is a tactic on achieving anarcho-capitalism, although it can be a different flavor of ancap if you consider Konkin's theories and philosophies as practical.

[New Unsociety]

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and poses a danger to all

what if i don't want your so called voluntary and free anarchist society and I want to keep my state?

Well, surprise surprise! "Your" state is not yours, but your dictator's! (elected or not)
If you happen to be a dictator, then the ensuing conflict will decide what happens.

[Democratic Koyro]

Not going to waste my time with your propaganda.

I wasn't aware the Yourlogicalfallacyis.com site was anarchist propaganda. I see progressives, conservatives and Marxists use it regularly.

I'm not going to waste my time with 'anarchist theories' - all of which are bullshit, so i'm not going to read propaganda.

[The New Sea Territory]

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and poses a danger to all

what if i don't want your so called voluntary and free anarchist society and I want to keep my state?

First, it's not your state. Secondly, a state initiates violence, so it's existence is aggressive and it must be dismantled. Third, an anarchist society is not a "so-called" free society, it is one. That's what freedom is, and if you don't like it, well....you don't seem to like freedom. The ability to do anything so long as it doesn't restrict another individual is the absolute state of freedom, or a voluntary society.

[New Unsociety]

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and without the State there is no civilization and the modern world would be destroyed.

You should at least study what anarchism is. Know your enemy

[The New Sea Territory]

I wasn't aware the Yourlogicalfallacyis.com site was anarchist propaganda. I see progressives, conservatives and Marxists use it regularly.

I'm not going to waste my time with 'anarchist theories' - all of which are bullshit, so i'm not going to read propaganda.

So, before you've even read them, you just define them as "bullshit". Wow.

I might disagree with National Socialists greatly but that doesn't mean I refuse to read their theories, for the sake of conversation.

[Anarkhist Kyrylashka]

That's actually correct, the ideas it proposes are anti-hierarchy, and thus proposes a danger to the state.

and poses a danger to all

what if i don't want your so called voluntary and free anarchist society and I want to keep my state?

Then you can leave. It's not like were forcing you here.

[Ziegenhain]

1)You haven't the clue of how military strategy works. There are many instances were a smaller force which should have lost by all means was able to win over their larger enemy force.

Oh and I like how we're indoctrinating children to think a certain way. That's always free and democratic right? Let's not let them think for themselves at all

2)Today's republics don't need to rely entirely on the people. Just enough for them to vote for them in and then the politicians do what they want. This is why democracy is a bloody failure.

1)Yes, but never did the smaller force initiate force. It was always desperate defence, slavery or death if they lost. Why should anyone living in equality and no slavery attempt a most likely suicidal act for greed?

"Oh and I like how we're indoctrinating children to think a certain way. That's always free and democratic right? Let's not let them think for themselves at all"
Because today's system is better, being taught that "democracy" (actually republic and crapitalism) is the best system!

"Today's republics don't need to rely entirely on the people. Just enough for them to vote for them in and then the politicians do what they want."
But what if the people vote a dictator that then abolishes democracy? (not falling for Poe's Law here either)

1) Fall Gelb. Wehrmacht was numerically outnumbered by the western forces, but were able to defeat them due to a better strategy

2)I and many others weren't taught that democracy is the best. I don't know what dream world you live it.

3)THen the people vote in a dictator.

[The New Sea Territory]

and poses a danger to all

what if i don't want your so called voluntary and free anarchist society and I want to keep my state?

Then you can leave. It's not like were forcing you here.

That too. You can leave the voluntary zone.

[Democratic Koyro]

You keep your head low in your backwards, poverty stricken, under educated part of town. You have no means real currency, no accountability, no safety net, no opportunity, no real incentive to advance or learn.

Just day to day, week by week, no time to care about the future.

A society without leadership or laws isn't a society at all.

this is anarchy in a nutshell.

[Meryuma]

I wasn't aware the Yourlogicalfallacyis.com site was anarchist propaganda. I see progressives, conservatives and Marxists use it regularly.

I'm not going to waste my time with 'anarchist theories' - all of which are bullshit, so i'm not going to read propaganda.

So rather than believing that anarchism is wrong because you find problems with anarchist arguments, you refuse to read anarchist arguments because we're wrong a priori. What flawless reasoning.