Life of a Commoner in an anarchist society

[Geilinor]

I don't want to be your equal.

Sucks.

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

[Skeckoa]

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

An anarchist society. An anarchist society is simply a society of equals, in which no man or woman is superior to his, or her, fellow "commoners", in which everything works via direct democratic procedure. In such a society you will still be able to get tickets and receive community services, the only difference is that the community is not ruled by no one else other than the collective community itself.
In an anarchist society there are only "commoners" and there are no leaders in the same sense as in our statist societies. Anarchy is not about chaos, or tyrrany by majority, but about equality and communitarian humanist democracy.

I don't want to be your equal.

Would you be willing to use violence to obtain a higher societal standing then Camelza?

[The New Sea Territory]

Then for a better example, German and American Law.

They do change, and anarchist economics function different than modern statist economics.

In both German and American law murder is a crime even though it is in a different langauge.

alright, economics

Economics is the social science that studies economic activity to gain an understanding of the processes that govern the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services in an economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics

Certainly the institutions, and therefore economic actors can be rather different but the bare bones principles do not change.

There is no "statist economics" or "anarchist economics" there is economics.

Sure, there might be some overlap but German and American Law are different. They have different penalties or altogether different crimes.

This is like saying socialism functions the same as capitalism. "Barebones principles" don't exist when we are comparing fundamentally different systems of social organization. Unless you want to go on a human nature tangent, where you define human nature as whatever you want it to be because it's ultimately just people's opinions.

[Democratic Koyro]

Stateless areas 'Armies' are terrorists.

....and magically, those with a state aren't.

Cite it or it never happened.

Human beings naturally congregate into governments, and governments naturally centralize. Even pre-Agricultural Revolution societies still had their elders and leaders. An anarchy would be vacation from an orderly society. All anarchies ultimately coalesce into, at the least, feuding city states. Somalia has its village elders and judges, all of which govern little city-states in their villages. They are constantly against each other, they form and break alliances, and they all deal with roving bands of pirates and Islamic terror groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

Anarchism isn't critical of government, it is critical of statism as the correct form of it.

Somalia is an Anocracy, not anarchy.

We don't care how you define Anarchy through rose-tinted glasses. We care about what it actually is, and what it is is horrifying. Therefore it and all those who support it must be resisted.

[The New Sea Territory]

Sucks.

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

You can't "push" anarchism. It's the lack of pushing, since the system is set up only to push when pushed.

[Camelza]

Sucks.

I'd be willing to bet that my net worth is higher than yours - not your equal and I never will be.

Please answer; Will you take your precious net worth along with you in your grave?

[Ripoll]

Anarchy literally translates to "rule by none". Anarchies are inherently stateless and oppose both the state and the state's use of force.

Yes, and?

We've been taught that authority is the enemy of freedom. It's not true. Authority, in fact, is essential to freedom. Law is a human institution; responsibility is a human institution. If teachers don't have authority to run the classroom, to maintain order, everybody's learning suffers. If the judge doesn't have the authority to toss out unreasonable claims, then all of us go through the day looking over our shoulders. If the environmental agency can't decide that the power lines are good for the environment, then there's no way to bring the power from the wind farms to the city. A free society requires red lights and green lights, otherwise it soon descends into gridlock.

So no, rule by none is a horrible idea.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

I don't want to be your equal.

Would you be willing to use violence to obtain a higher societal standing then Camelza?

Thankfully, this isn't an anarchy, so there are defined legal means for me to use.

[The New Sea Territory]

....and magically, those with a state aren't.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

Anarchism isn't critical of government, it is critical of statism as the correct form of it.

Somalia is an Anocracy, not anarchy.

We don't care how you define Anarchy through rose-tinted glasses. We care about what it actually is, and what it is is horrifying. Therefore it and all those who support it must be resisted.

What you call "rose-tinted glasses" I call a knowledge of anarchist theory, practice and history. You know nothing about anarchism yet sit here and lecture me about how bad it is. You know nothing about Proudhon or Bakunin's claims, Konkin or Rothnbard's arguments but you are convinced it's just pure evil.

[Kincoboh]

Sucks.

I'd be willing to bet that my net worth is higher than yours - not your equal and I never will be.

Wow - you must be fun at parties.
"I've got more money than you, so I will always be better than you"

[Zeinbrad]

Anarchy is hell

Anarchy, Anarchy never changes.

[Lockean Georgeville]

You set out driving to the university only to be stopped by members of the Russian Mafia who ask you to buy a brick for 3 thousand dollars, you refuse to pay, swiftly they take a brick out of a bag and crack your skull with it. You die on the street as you don't have the money to pay for Health Insurance.

I think you have anarchy confused with anocracy.

[Democratic Koyro]

Sucks.

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

Some in this thread are determined to not only push Anarchism on people who don't want it but kill those who oppose it.

2)Unless you are one of Kim's clique with Internet access, you are one of the very few in the West that are against democracy. Your kind will also be very few in an anarchist society, few enough to be dealt with, by lethal force if needed.

Uhhh....Be careful with wording.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I'd be willing to bet that my net worth is higher than yours - not your equal and I never will be.

Please answer; Will you take your precious net worth along with you in your grave?

Yes. That number won't magically be erased when I die.

[MERIZoC]

Sucks.

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

Anarchism can't be pushed on society. As New Sea said, it's the absence of pushing.

[Camelza]

Would you be willing to use violence to obtain a higher societal standing then Camelza?

Thankfully, this isn't an anarchy, so there are defined legal means for me to use.

If our society was an anarchist one you would still be free to live by your own standards, without getting and giving help to from and to your fellow humans.

[Democratic Koyro]

You set out driving to the university only to be stopped by members of the Russian Mafia who ask you to buy a brick for 3 thousand dollars, you refuse to pay, swiftly they take a brick out of a bag and crack your skull with it. You die on the street as you don't have the money to pay for Health Insurance.

I think you have anarchy confused with anocracy.

They are exactly the same.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I'd be willing to bet that my net worth is higher than yours - not your equal and I never will be.

Wow - you must be fun at parties.
"I've got more money than you, so I will always be better than you"

In this great capitalist society - yes.

[The New Sea Territory]

Yes, and?

We've been taught that authority is the enemy of freedom. It's not true. Authority, in fact, is essential to freedom. Law is a human institution; responsibility is a human institution. If teachers don't have authority to run the classroom, to maintain order, everybody's learning suffers. If the judge doesn't have the authority to toss out unreasonable claims, then all of us go through the day looking over our shoulders. If the environmental agency can't decide that the power lines are good for the environment, then there's no way to bring the power from the wind farms to the city. A free society requires red lights and green lights, otherwise it soon descends into gridlock.

So no, rule by none is a horrible idea.

Anarchism isn't critical of rules, government or authority. It is critical of the state and of coercive hierarchies. You can't seem to understand that our government wouldn't require the initiation of force.

[Solaray]

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

Anarchism can't be pushed on society. As New Sea said, it's the absence of pushing.

I don't really see how overthrowing a state is anything but "pushing".

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Stateless areas 'Armies' are terrorists.

....and magically, those with a state aren't.

Not magically. Unless you honestly believe the U.S. Army is as terrible as Al-Qaida.

So you're determined to push anarchism on society?

You can't "push" anarchism. It's the lack of pushing, since the system is set up only to push when pushed.

So anarchism will never actually be a worldwide or even national thing.

Anarchy is hell

Anarchy, Anarchy never changes.

Anarchism! What is it good for?

[Camelza]

Would you be willing to use violence to obtain a higher societal standing then Camelza?

Thankfully, this isn't an anarchy, so there are defined legal means for me to use.

Would it really matter if you're dead?

[The New Sea Territory]

I think you have anarchy confused with anocracy.

They are exactly the same.

Only in your head.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Thankfully, this isn't an anarchy, so there are defined legal means for me to use.

If our society was an anarchist one you would still be free to live by your own standards, without getting and giving help to from and to your fellow humans.

I'd like to live as a mercenary

[Democratic Koyro]

So no, rule by none is a horrible idea.

Anarchism isn't critical of rules, government or authority. It is critical of the state and of coercive hierarchies. You can't seem to understand that our government wouldn't require the initiation of force.

Just because you keep pushing this Propaganda slogan doesn't make it true. We all know what Anarchism is. You have a warped view about what you actually believe.