Life of a Commoner in an anarchist society

[Conserative Morality]

And why should they care about those precedents? Are they not competitors?

Because that's what makes it profitable.

Bullshit laws would not exist, for the most part. As it would not be profitable to enforce them.

Oh, it's very profitable to enforce bullshit laws.

"Every time you criticize the PMC, that's a fine of five golden pieces (All Hail The Mighty Gold Standard)."

[Liberty and Linguistics]

We need a central authority to have true freedom

While a central government does need to exist, what is true freedom? I feel that's a vague term that can be interpreted in many ways? Is it a society where people are free to do what they choose, or is it your ideal society?

[Sibirsky]

Depends on the society. There could be private courts with different brands of law.

There would be no courts or laws. Just psychopathic mass killers roaming the streets as people huddle around fires in the ruins of what used to be civilization.

[Edgy Opinions]

Anyway, as I said, I find this discussion to be unfruitful. We don't have how to predict life here in 1000 years.

I particularly think that if communism's final stage is best described as actually minarchist, it'd be enough for my own ideological views.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

There would be no courts or laws. Just psychopathic mass killers roaming the streets as people huddle around fires in the ruins of what used to be civilization.

Alright, for one, a facepalm isn't an argument. While I disagree with Koyro's points, and the concept of anarchism, I do feel that the self proclaimed silver medal debate winner could actually debate.

[Murkwood]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

[Geilinor]

But what if a number of shareholders had invested into my PMC to the point that I had monopoly power (defined as having a market share of more than 25% - let's say in this instance, I'd have 75% market share). There really isn't much stopping me from saying 'right, you're now paying the Wolfmanne tax. I'm not gonna lie and say this is protection money or a revolutionary tax etc, this is a tax on your life. If you don't pay, you die. Our Board of Directors and shareholders at Wolfmanne's PMC ltd have endorsed this as company policy, kthxbai'.

You won't have monopoly power. No one has the wealth necessary for that to happen.

In an anarchist society, a company with 75% can organize groups to drive the remaining 25% out.

[Conserative Morality]

Well unless you managed to find yourself on a place with a lot of uranium, you'll probably have to purchase it. The court can merely ask whoever sold it to you, or drove it, or perhaps a third party who knows about it and isn't under contract.

You're already assuming people in the area know about my plans to build a nuke, or that I'm ordering fissile material.

[Sibirsky]

There would be no government, no taxes and fewer laws. Prices would be lower, incomes higher. But out of pocket expenses for certain things would increase, as they would no longer be provided by the government and paid for with taxes.

Also, your chances of getting shot or stabbed shoot through the roof.

So you claim. With no evidence to back up your claim, whatsoever.

[Conserative Morality]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

Somalia has one half of a functioning, if unrepresentative, interim government, and one half of warring clans and rival Islamist groups enforcing their only little microstates on the region.

Anarchy wouldn't have the former.

[Edgy Opinions]

We need a central authority to have true freedom

Being threatened with prison sentences and wage slavery while you contribute to the community and isn't actually harming others is the opposite of obtaining purer forms of freedom. (I can't actually conceive a full form of freedom, and so can't you, exactly because we were socially immersed in societies/cultures where arbitrariness is the rule.)

[Conserative Morality]

You won't have monopoly power. No one has the wealth necessary for that to happen.

Regional monopolies are very easy to achieve.

[Geilinor]

I do feel that the self proclaimed silver medal debate winner could actually debate.

That was way back when he was better known around here.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

Murkwood, the anarchy=Somalia argument is a hackneyed argument that makes us statists look bad. Saying that Somalia is a model anarchy ignores the historical background and civil war in Somalia. Somalia lacks a central government because of the sheer lawlessness they've seen in the last few decades. The lack of a central government didn't cause lawlessness, it was vice versa.

A anarchist society would have tons of problems, but to say that a anarchist country would have people running around slaughtering each other implies that humans aren't usually rational, good people.

[Murkwood]

Also, your chances of getting shot or stabbed shoot through the roof.

So you claim. With no evidence to back up your claim, whatsoever.

It's common sense. If you will not be sought after by a central authority, you are more likely to commit a crime.

[Sibirsky]

There would be no government, no taxes and fewer laws. Prices would be lower, incomes higher. But out of pocket expenses for certain things would increase, as they would no longer be provided by the government and paid for with taxes.

So nothing will change. If it balances out in the end, why should we adopt anarchy?

There would be plenty of change. You would have more choice, in terms of what you spend money on, and how much you spend.

[Edgy Opinions]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

Somalia has parallel institutions of power with more capability than the more legitimized central structure, rather than ABOLITION of institutions of power.

[Sibirsky]

There would be no government, no taxes and fewer laws. Prices would be lower, incomes higher. But out of pocket expenses for certain things would increase, as they would no longer be provided by the government and paid for with taxes.

Pure nonsense.

Said the person that does not even know what anarchy means.

[Conserative Morality]

There would be plenty of change. You would have more choice, in terms of what you spend money on, and how much you spend.

So you claim. With no evidence to back up your claim, whatsoever.

[Murkwood]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

Somalia has one half of a functioning, if unrepresentative, interim government, and one half of warring clans and rival Islamist groups enforcing their only little microstates on the region.

Anarchy wouldn't have the former.

No, Anarchy would have the former. Who is going stop someone from establishing their own state?

[Geilinor]

Anarchists: How would your anarchy be any different from Somalia? People are making and enforcing their own laws. Now, these laws usually involve beheadings, but isn't no state what you want?

Murkwood, the anarchy=Somalia argument is a hackneyed argument that makes us statists look bad. Saying that Somalia is a model anarchy ignores the historical background and civil war in Somalia. Somalia lacks a central government because of the sheer lawlessness they've seen in the last few decades. The lack of a central government didn't cause lawlessness, it was vice versa.

A anarchist society would have tons of problems, but to say that a anarchist country would have people running around slaughtering each other implies that humans aren't usually rational, good people.

The only way a central government will be abolished is civil war and lawlessness.

[Sibirsky]

The government farms the land and transports the food all over the world, obviously.

Why would the government do that?

It's called sarcasm.

[Conserative Morality]

No, Anarchy would have the former. Who is going stop someone from establishing their own state?

You ever seen efforts to establish a state?

Shit's hard. It'd take a few weeks, at least.

[Wolfmanne]

But what if a number of shareholders had invested into my PMC to the point that I had monopoly power (defined as having a market share of more than 25% - let's say in this instance, I'd have 75% market share). There really isn't much stopping me from saying 'right, you're now paying the Wolfmanne tax. I'm not gonna lie and say this is protection money or a revolutionary tax etc, this is a tax on your life. If you don't pay, you die. Our Board of Directors and shareholders at Wolfmanne's PMC ltd have endorsed this as company policy, kthxbai'.

You won't have monopoly power. No one has the wealth necessary for that to happen.

The last sentence means nothing. If more than 25% of transactions within my industry are towards my PMC, I have monopoly power. Simple. Total wealth means nothing. But having a high market shares generally correlates to higher revenue and more revenue = higher economies of scale, meaning that I can produce a large number of the tanks, helicopters and firearms I need for everyone to pay the Wolfmanne tax.

[The Liberated Territories]

Well unless you managed to find yourself on a place with a lot of uranium, you'll probably have to purchase it. The court can merely ask whoever sold it to you, or drove it, or perhaps a third party who knows about it and isn't under contract.

You're already assuming people in the area know about my plans to build a nuke, or that I'm ordering fissile material.

You think people are merely ordering uranium to power their kitchen?

"Hurr durr hey I'd like to buy five tons of uranium please. Oh no, I just need it to power my nuclear microwave."