Man at Walmart attacked for carrying gun with permit

[North Calaveras]

god-forbid people educate themselves...

Welcome to humanity.

are you saying people are to stupid and dangerous to own guns?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Then they should educate themselves on what to look for.

Rather simplistic logic. Not practical to mankind.

It is not practical to ask to see something that you have no idea what it is supposed to look like either. Proper CC generally have it so that you will never see it anyway, but If a scenario like this occurs and you are genuinely concerned, and you want to ask to see their permit, best know what you are asking for. Or, notify a security guard at the store of your concerns.

[Russadonia]

Yes. I don't see the point of this.

Self defence. Some people have had their lives saved by owning guns, and you are speaking to one.

That's awesome for you. Again, I don't support the outright banning of firearms, just extremely strict controls. Extremely.

[North Calaveras]

Again, if you're that unnerved, ask them. But if they are not acting all shifty and suspicious, chances are they are simply one of the millions of CC liscensed Americans.

Well that doesn't technically rule out the possibly of them being really good at lying. And being able to hide their shiftiness well.

your being way to negative...

[The Black Forrest]

Welcome to humanity.

are you saying people are to stupid and dangerous to own guns?

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Self defence. Some people have had their lives saved by owning guns, and you are speaking to one.

That's awesome for you. Again, I don't support the outright banning of firearms, just extremely strict controls. Extremely.

As in what? Restrictions are already in place so that those convicted of a felony or violent crime are ineligible for permits or even buying firearms. What more do you want?

[North Calaveras]

Self defence. Some people have had their lives saved by owning guns, and you are speaking to one.

That's awesome for you. Again, I don't support the outright banning of firearms, just extremely strict controls. Extremely.

define extremley...

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Call me a pussy if you want but if I see a dude strapping the last thing I'm going to do is shout "he's got a gun." I think I'll nod at him politely and slowly give some distance.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

are you saying people are to stupid and dangerous to own guns?

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

Which is why those with mental disorders are ineligible to receive firearms. There doesn't need to be any more restrictions, merely improved enforcement and more thorough background checks.

[North Calaveras]

are you saying people are to stupid and dangerous to own guns?

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

I believe that liberals should stick to their logic of " don't blame the many on the acts of the few" but apparently that only applies to islamic extremism.

[Chedastan]

Well that doesn't technically rule out the possibly of them being really good at lying. And being able to hide their shiftiness well.

your being way to negative...

But I am being technical here. And appear to be heavily using "the absence of evidence, doesn't mean the evidence of absence" quote.

[The Black Forrest]

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

I believe that liberals should stick to their logic of " don't blame the many on the acts of the few" but apparently that only applies to islamic extremism.

Liberals aren't the ones talking about having to kill Mauslums.

[The Grey Wolf]

It's funny you say that when next to no one has argued that. Hell, some liberals on here have voiced their support for gun rights, and a conservative even spoke out about stereotyping their position on the matter. But whatever, I guess you and Mav went to the same school of NSG posting.

I saw you in the class. Don't deny you where there.

I slept through the whole semester unfortunately.

are you saying people are to stupid and dangerous to own guns?

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

He didn't exactly obtain it legally.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

I believe that liberals should stick to their logic of " don't blame the many on the acts of the few" but apparently that only applies to islamic extremism.

Again with the bull shit stereotyping. You realize as a liberal, I'm very outspoken in favor of gun rights, yes?

[Russadonia]

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

I grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area where gays were not treated well and everyone had guns, not once was i ever afraid of firearms. A gun is an inanimate object incapable of harm without human intent, guns were/are/never the problem, it was people behind the weapon, an AK-47 is neither good nor evil unless applied in a certain manner.

This doesn't change what I said. Your experiences have granted you the ability to not fear firearms, and you should not discount others' fear based on your experiences.

Guess what? I also grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area. I was born and raised in Texas. My childhood home had guns growing up, and I'm the only person in my family who doesn't like them. I still believe a device used to kill is inherently evil.

[Kiribati-Tarawa]

Attacking a person with a legal firearm sounds like a dumb move. Just saying.

[North Calaveras]

I believe that liberals should stick to their logic of " don't blame the many on the acts of the few" but apparently that only applies to islamic extremism.

Again with the bull shit stereotyping. You realize as a liberal, I'm very outspoken in favor of gun rights, yes?

jesus christ fine

EVERYONE WHEN I SAY LIBERAL I REFER TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOM PORTRAY ANTI-GUN SUPPORT WHICH IS A COMMON THEME WITH THEM, HOWEVER THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS SUCH AS THE ABOVE POSTER.

[North Calaveras]

I grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area where gays were not treated well and everyone had guns, not once was i ever afraid of firearms. A gun is an inanimate object incapable of harm without human intent, guns were/are/never the problem, it was people behind the weapon, an AK-47 is neither good nor evil unless applied in a certain manner.

This doesn't change what I said. Your experiences have granted you the ability to not fear firearms, and you should not discount others' fear based on your experiences.

Guess what? I also grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area. I was born and raised in Texas. My childhood home had guns growing up, and I'm the only person in my family who doesn't like them. I still believe a device used to kill is inherently evil.

An inanimate object is incapable of evil...

[The Black Forrest]

I saw you in the class. Don't deny you where there.

I slept through the whole semester unfortunately.

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

He didn't exactly obtain it legally.

There is the root of your problem. Until the US admits there is a mental disease problem and deals with it; I believe in strict gun control....

[Tyrinth]

I grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area where gays were not treated well and everyone had guns, not once was i ever afraid of firearms. A gun is an inanimate object incapable of harm without human intent, guns were/are/never the problem, it was people behind the weapon, an AK-47 is neither good nor evil unless applied in a certain manner.

This doesn't change what I said. Your experiences have granted you the ability to not fear firearms, and you should not discount others' fear based on your experiences.

Guess what? I also grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area. I was born and raised in Texas. My childhood home had guns growing up, and I'm the only person in my family who doesn't like them. I still believe a device used to kill is inherently evil.

It's only used to kill if the wielder decides to use it for such a purpose. An inanimate object is incapable of inherent evil.

There are plenty of things which are commonly used to kill but also serve other purposes and no one views them as evil. Guns are no exception.

[The Grey Wolf]

Sure. I would gladly see my relatives are disarmed.

You think the Sandy Hook shooter should have had his weapons?

I believe that liberals should stick to their logic of " don't blame the many on the acts of the few" but apparently that only applies to islamic extremism.

Let's not turn this into a Liberal vs Conservative debate, please.

[The Black Forrest]

This doesn't change what I said. Your experiences have granted you the ability to not fear firearms, and you should not discount others' fear based on your experiences.

Guess what? I also grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area. I was born and raised in Texas. My childhood home had guns growing up, and I'm the only person in my family who doesn't like them. I still believe a device used to kill is inherently evil.

An inanimate object is incapable of evil...

And your point is what?

[Occupied Deutschland]

Guns are suspicious.

Especially when held by people you wouldn't expect to have them.

Ah yes.
THOSE people.

...Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.
...

Yes, actually it is.
Primarily because that first statement you make is so hilariously wrong as to make it mock-worthy for merely being present.

You see, there are 300+ million firearms in the US.
There are, annually, roughly 30,000 deaths from firearms (roughly 20,000 of which are suicides).
Assuming every single murder uses a different firearm (a grossly inaccurate assumption) we can easily calculate out that approximately...point zero one percent of firearms are used for killing. This goes down further if one disregards the suicides as that's a 'killing' that is somewhat harder to condemn in practice, though easily regrettable in moral effects, as it doesn't impact anyone else besides the killer.

This of course assumes you mean killing of people, as if you apply such logic to animals you begin to enter a realm devoid of logic and sense that one can only begin to imagine.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I slept through the whole semester unfortunately.

He didn't exactly obtain it legally.

There is the root of your problem. Until the US admits there is a mental disease problem and deals with it; I believe in strict gun control....

As do I, but I also believe in not infringing any further on the rights of those law abiding citizens who simply own them for self defense.

[The Alexanderians]

I grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area where gays were not treated well and everyone had guns, not once was i ever afraid of firearms. A gun is an inanimate object incapable of harm without human intent, guns were/are/never the problem, it was people behind the weapon, an AK-47 is neither good nor evil unless applied in a certain manner.

This doesn't change what I said. Your experiences have granted you the ability to not fear firearms, and you should not discount others' fear based on your experiences.

Guess what? I also grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area. I was born and raised in Texas. My childhood home had guns growing up, and I'm the only person in my family who doesn't like them. I still believe a device used to kill is inherently evil.

You're gay then you should appreciate this. Some people are homophobic that mean guess what they have a fear of homosexuals, are there fears unfounded? Yes. Are my experiences with them as a group positive? Yes. Can I discount other people's fear of them? you're damn right.