Man at Walmart attacked for carrying gun with permit

[Chedastan]

Really wish I received money for how often stereotypes are used in this thread.

That isn't very good logic to apply to any situation. If you are really that unnerved by a man clearly going about daily business and not acting suspicious with a gun, simply ask to see his permit.

Guns are suspicious.

Especially when held by people you wouldn't expect to have them.

[North Calaveras]

1.He wasn't carrying it to incite panic(which seems like what your pointing to)
2. Then your fear is irrational, just because you see a firearm and run makes you sound delusional, what you should be worried about is intent not what he/she has.
3. It's sickening that you hide behind transgenderism as an excuse for more gun control, im a gay married man and I am a huge supporterer of the second amendment because I want the ability to defend myself from assholes.
3. gun-toting lunatics? havn't heard that one before
4.gun ownership is a RIGHT not a privlege.
5. carring a gun on private property does not make you a domestic terrorist, it may make you a trespasser however.

I don't think it matters that his intention wasn't to cause panic, but rather that someone saw him conceal it, feared for what could happen, and acted to prevent it. It isn't fair for you to tell her that her fear of guns is irrational or delusional after she admitted to being abused by people with guns, in fact I think a response like that is healthy.

I would definitely call owning a gun a privilege rather than a right. I would call voting a right, and yet, in many parts of the country its much easier for a convicted felon to illegally obtain a gun than legally vote. Priorities.

That's the problem with concealed weapons. I would rather see him tackle a gun wearer rather then assume he is legal.

Yes, absolutely.

it is entirley irrational, a gun is not a personality, what she should have been afraid of was the person not the weapon.

when I see a weapon im not scared of it by any means, what im worried about is the guy holding it and if hes not doing anything illegal i dont give a crap what he does.

[The Black Forrest]

Guns are suspicious.

No, people are suspicious.

Exactly. Why else would they carry a gun?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

No, people are suspicious.

Exactly. Why else would they carry a gun?

For self defence, as is their right.

[Chedastan]

Exactly. Why else would they carry a gun?

For self defence, as is their right.

But how would we know it's for self defense? And not for something else?

[North Calaveras]

No, people are suspicious.

Exactly. Why else would they carry a gun?

idk why do I carry a gun when I go to work?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Really wish I received money for how often stereotypes are used in this thread.

That isn't very good logic to apply to any situation. If you are really that unnerved by a man clearly going about daily business and not acting suspicious with a gun, simply ask to see his permit.

*shrugs* What is the need to carry a weapon to walmart? They not confessing something?

How many people can tell what is a legal permit?

While I would probably not carry in a wal Mart, that doesn't mean other people feel the need to have it on them at all times.

I fail to see how that is the carrier's issue that they cannot recognize one. I imagine if they ask, they should probably know what they are asking about.

[North Calaveras]

For self defence, as is their right.

But how would we know it's for self defense? And not for something else?

leave that to the court

[The Black Forrest]

*shrugs* What is the need to carry a weapon to walmart? They not confessing something?

How many people can tell what is a legal permit?

While I would probably not carry in a wal Mart, that doesn't mean other people feel the need to have it on them at all times.

I fail to see how that is the carrier's issue that they cannot recognize one. I imagine if they ask, they should probably know what they are asking about.

Most people are going to ask for a permit.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

For self defence, as is their right.

But how would we know it's for self defense? And not for something else?

Again, if you're that unnerved, ask them. But if they are not acting all shifty and suspicious, chances are they are simply one of the millions of CC liscensed Americans.

[Russadonia]

I don't think it matters that his intention wasn't to cause panic, but rather that someone saw him conceal it, feared for what could happen, and acted to prevent it. It isn't fair for you to tell her that her fear of guns is irrational or delusional after she admitted to being abused by people with guns, in fact I think a response like that is healthy.

I would definitely call owning a gun a privilege rather than a right. I would call voting a right, and yet, in many parts of the country its much easier for a convicted felon to illegally obtain a gun than legally vote. Priorities.



Yes, absolutely.

it is entirley irrational, a gun is not a personality, what she should have been afraid of was the person not the weapon.

when I see a weapon im not scared of it by any means, what im worried about is the guy holding it and if hes not doing anything illegal i dont give a crap what he does.

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

[The Grey Wolf]

Derp he is a liberal trying to take mah guns!

It's funny you say that when next to no one has argued that. Hell, some liberals on here have voiced their support for gun rights, and a conservative even spoke out about stereotyping their position on the matter. But whatever, I guess you and Mav went to the same school of NSG posting.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

While I would probably not carry in a wal Mart, that doesn't mean other people feel the need to have it on them at all times.

I fail to see how that is the carrier's issue that they cannot recognize one. I imagine if they ask, they should probably know what they are asking about.

Most people are going to ask for a permit.

Then they should educate themselves on what to look for.

[Tyrinth]

it is entirley irrational, a gun is not a personality, what she should have been afraid of was the person not the weapon.

when I see a weapon im not scared of it by any means, what im worried about is the guy holding it and if hes not doing anything illegal i dont give a crap what he does.

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

Guns are used for whatever the person wants to use them for...

[Russadonia]

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

Guns are used for whatever the person wants to use them for...

Yes. I don't see the point of this.

[The Black Forrest]

But how would we know it's for self defense? And not for something else?

leave that to the court

That worked with Sandy Hook eh?

[The Black Forrest]

Most people are going to ask for a permit.

Then they should educate themselves on what to look for.

Rather simplistic logic. Not practical to mankind.

[Tyrinth]

Guns are used for whatever the person wants to use them for...

Yes. I don't see the point of this.

I don't understand. Can you reword that?

[North Calaveras]

it is entirley irrational, a gun is not a personality, what she should have been afraid of was the person not the weapon.

when I see a weapon im not scared of it by any means, what im worried about is the guy holding it and if hes not doing anything illegal i dont give a crap what he does.

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

I grew up as a gay man in a very conservative area where gays were not treated well and everyone had guns, not once was i ever afraid of firearms. A gun is an inanimate object incapable of harm without human intent, guns were/are/never the problem, it was people behind the weapon, an AK-47 is neither good nor evil unless applied in a certain manner.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Guns are used for whatever the person wants to use them for...

Yes. I don't see the point of this.

Self defence. Some people have had their lives saved by owning guns, and you are speaking to one.

[The Black Forrest]

Derp he is a liberal trying to take mah guns!

It's funny you say that when next to no one has argued that. Hell, some liberals on here have voiced their support for gun rights, and a conservative even spoke out about stereotyping their position on the matter. But whatever, I guess you and Mav went to the same school of NSG posting.

I saw you in the class. Don't deny you where there.

[North Calaveras]

Then they should educate themselves on what to look for.

Rather simplistic logic. Not practical to mankind.

god-forbid people educate themselves...

[The Alexanderians]

it is entirley irrational, a gun is not a personality, what she should have been afraid of was the person not the weapon.

when I see a weapon im not scared of it by any means, what im worried about is the guy holding it and if hes not doing anything illegal i dont give a crap what he does.

Your privileges and experience in life grant you the ability to not fear guns, but that does not by any means make it irrational. Guns are used for killing. Guns are used for killing. It is not irrational to fear a device used for killing, especially when one has directly been threatened with one.

It is awesome that you aren't scared of guns.

So are knives and practically every medicine on the market can be used as a poison. How do you feel near a butcher's block, someone holding a knife or the pharmacy?

[The Black Forrest]

Rather simplistic logic. Not practical to mankind.

god-forbid people educate themselves...

Welcome to humanity.

[Chedastan]

But how would we know it's for self defense? And not for something else?

Again, if you're that unnerved, ask them. But if they are not acting all shifty and suspicious, chances are they are simply one of the millions of CC liscensed Americans.

Well that doesn't technically rule out the possibly of them being really good at lying. And being able to hide their shiftiness well.