Man at Walmart attacked for carrying gun with permit

[The balkens]

Airsoft can be even more expensive if you go for a high-grade RIF

Not if you keep it simple.

Then again i have quite the Collection.

[Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk]

And you wonder why gun owners feel ostracized and driven away from the Democrats. Which, again, is interesting, because generally we tend to think of Conservatives as the type that judges and condemns people based on their beliefs and lifestyles.

We are tolerant as long as you believe and do what we tell you!

Sadly, this is the case for both parties these days.

"Bad apple," huh?

Yeah. There's nothing cool about "carrying a gun everywhere", though I'm sure it helps you sleep at night.

Would you pick up kids from a School with it also? Or enter a hospital with it? I bet you would, you bad ass.

And? I mean, other than building crappy strawmen and insulting people for no apparent reason, you seem to be under the impression that we have the same irrational, emotion-before-logic kneejerk response to this sort of thing as you do.

It doesn't matter if it's cool or not, you have a right to do it as long as you're being responsible and not hurting anyone.

If I had children, yes I would. I see no reason why I, a law abiding citizen with a valid permit and proper training, should not be able to pick up my children from school while wearing an accessory as basic to my mode of dress as my wallet, or my watch. Same with a hospital. Guns aren't supernatural, inherently evil, malevolent objects of Satan. They're a tool, like a flashlight, or a pocket knife, or a car. If used responsibly, there's nothing wrong with them whatsoever.

I fail to see why your ignorance on the subject is our issue.

Sorry, only Muricans can understand guns, all us non Muricans are just sad little pacifists?

I should leave this discussion to the experts then, enjoy your guns and death penalty.

Since apparently this forum doesn't allow me to call it duck, regardless of how duck-like it walks and quacks, I suppose I have to assume that you're being serious here. Neither Bezkoshtovnya nor anyone else here has implied or said anything that you're suggesting here. But, since you brought it up, there are numerous nations which have just as much gun culture as the US. For example, the Czech Republic, where shooting is the third most popular sport, after football (real football, not handegg) and hockey. Or Switzerland, where every adult male is issued a fully automatic rifle, by the government, which he is permitted to keep in his home. Canadians actually have access to a wider variety of guns than Americans, because Canada doesn't have stupid import laws designed to protect native industry. I could go on, but you get the gist.

[The Nexus of Man]

I don't feel bad.
Guns are dangerous. People with guns are dangerous.

Fists are dangerous. People with fists are dangerous.

[Scomagia]

I don't feel bad.
Guns are dangerous. People with guns are dangerous.

Fists are dangerous. People with fists are dangerous.

Teeth are dangerous. People with teeth are dangerous.

[The Nexus of Man]

Fists are dangerous. People with fists are dangerous.

Teeth are dangerous. People with teeth are dangerous.

Ban teeth!

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Teeth are dangerous. People with teeth are dangerous.

Ban teeth!

I mean, it DID save DPRK in World War Z.....

[Geilinor]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

[The Nexus of Man]

Ban teeth!

I mean, it DID save DPRK in World War Z.....

Kish Josh Ul ish besh Kush!

[Tyrinth]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

Observe and ask. Or call the cops if you're too scared or worried, I guess.

[Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk]

Fists are dangerous. People with fists are dangerous.

Teeth are dangerous. People with teeth are dangerous.

Ban dangerous assault teeth!

[Salandriagado]

France is a lot smaller than the US. Considerably smaller, for example, than the US Northeast.

Aye, but the 9/11 attacks involved aircraft, and aircraft can travel a significant distance in a much shorter amount of time than these French terrorists can in their car.

It takes 8 hours to get from Paris to the south coast of France. There isn't anywhere in the country more than 9 hours away from it, given good traffic. They could have gotten to Belgium in 3 hours, the Netherlands in 4 and a half, Germany or Luxembourg in four, Switzerland in 5 and a half, Italy in 7, Spain, Austria or Lichtenstein in 8, Andorra or the Czech Republic in 9, Denmark or Poland in 10 and a half, and Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia or Portugal in 12. That's 18 countries within 12 hours, assuming that they can't get on a boat. That's a pretty damn big area, and perfectly justifies mobilising police forces in a wide area.

[Rigenos]

Some of you people make me sick. He has the RIGHT to carry that firearm.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Some of you people make me sick. He has the RIGHT to carry that firearm.

And it's their right to not support such rights if that is how they feel. It should not make you feel sick that people have different opinions than yours.

[Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk]

Some of you people make me sick. He has the RIGHT to carry that firearm.

And it's their right to not support such rights if that is how they feel. It should not make you feel sick that people have different opinions than yours.

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

[WestRedMaple]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

Well, since we lack telepathy, the fact is that we DON'T know if the people around us mean harm, and firearms are irrelevant to the point.

[Scomagia]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

If someone's default assumption to seeing someone with a fucking holstered firearm is to freak out and tackle them, I think they probably shouldn't be walking the streets.

[Purpelia]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

If someone's default assumption to seeing someone with a fucking holstered firearm is to freak out and tackle them, I think they probably shouldn't be walking the streets.

Quite. The reaction should be to hide and call the police.

If I were a shop owner in the wild west that is described in the OP I'd have a security guard at the door and a sign to check all firearms with him before entry.

[Jamzmania]

The problem is, how does another person know that you have a permit and that you mean no harm?

If someone's default assumption to seeing someone with a fucking holstered firearm is to freak out and tackle them, I think they probably shouldn't be walking the streets.

Indeed. What happens when they come across a police officer?

[WestRedMaple]

He displayed it well before holstering and concealing it. That's how the man tackling him knew he had a gun. If he had only concealed it nothing would have happened.

I'm wondering why he did that. Perhaps he uses a car holster?

Maybe so it is in a position where he could access it while in the car. An IWB while sitting and wearing a seatbelt can be a difficult draw.

[Scomagia]

If someone's default assumption to seeing someone with a fucking holstered firearm is to freak out and tackle them, I think they probably shouldn't be walking the streets.

Quite. The reaction should be to hide and call the police.

If I were a shop owner in the wild west that is described in the OP I'd have a security guard at the door and a sign to check all firearms with him before entry.

Even that's a bit of an overreaction to a holstered firearm but it's better, I suppose.

If you owned a business, you'd be perfectly right to restrict guns in your establishment.

[WestRedMaple]

Some of you people make me sick. He has the RIGHT to carry that firearm.

And it's their right to not support such rights if that is how they feel. It should not make you feel sick that people have different opinions than yours.

So it shouldn't make you sick if someone spouts their support for infanticide to avoid female children or goes on about the 'natural inferiority of coloreds', or protests a vet's funeral with a 'God hates fags' sign?

There are plenty of opinions that I find sick. Why shouldn't I feel that way?

[Gauthier]

"Racial stereotyping is okay if they're white."

Black men with guns have a worrying habit of getting shot by police officers. Even when they're not real guns. Even when there were no guns of any sort.
White men with guns tend to get apologised to a lot by some very diplomatic police officers.

But it's racial stereotyping to state that white men with guns are treated more leniently than black men with anything!

[Bezkoshtovnya]

And it's their right to not support such rights if that is how they feel. It should not make you feel sick that people have different opinions than yours.

So it shouldn't make you sick if someone spouts their support for infanticide to avoid female children or goes on about the 'natural inferiority of coloreds', or protests a vet's funeral with a 'God hates fags' sign?

There are plenty of opinions that I find sick. Why shouldn't I feel that way?

When you take that fucking leap, then yeah, sure. Was that what was making him sick? No.

Don't think someone saying guns shouldn't be carried in public is in any way equitable. But I am sure you will argue that I didn't specify that.

[WestRedMaple]

So it shouldn't make you sick if someone spouts their support for infanticide to avoid female children or goes on about the 'natural inferiority of coloreds', or protests a vet's funeral with a 'God hates fags' sign?

There are plenty of opinions that I find sick. Why shouldn't I feel that way?

When you take that fucking leap, then yeah, sure. Was that what was making him sick? No.

Don't think someone saying guns shouldn't be carried in public is in any way equitable. But I am sure you will argue that I didn't specify that.

So you contradict yourself. Why did you make the earlier statement if you didn't really mean it?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

When you take that fucking leap, then yeah, sure. Was that what was making him sick? No.

Don't think someone saying guns shouldn't be carried in public is in any way equitable. But I am sure you will argue that I didn't specify that.

So you contradict yourself. Why did you make the earlier statement if you didn't really mean it?

Perhaps because I was referring to the opinion he was describing as disgusting, and did not expect someone to make a leap the size of the grand canyon. There are exceptions such as your extreme opinions you listed, but if someone generally has a variant opinion that is not extreme (I.e. the case I was responding to) it is not generally a cause for disgust. I did not say "absolutely no opinions should disgust you" now did I? No, because I was addressing the issue at hand, not speaking about opinions on infanticide and vet funeral protests.