Kenyan Children Teargassed

[Edgy Opinions]

That's what they get for resisting.

Because children protesting about the loss of their playground is reason to fire teargas at them.

"Oh no. They're waving signs and chanting slogans. The fabric of society is tearing itself apart. Quickly, subdue them and save our inherently corrupt psuedo-democratic state."

I was hoping they were being ironic.

[Jetan]

Atleast tear gas only stings, OC feels like somebody is stabbing you in the eyes. Still, should not have been used against children.

In Brazil pepper spray is particularly common.

Nasty. I've only ever had to test it in the FDF, it sucked balls.

[Edgy Opinions]

In Brazil pepper spray is particularly common.

Nasty. I've only ever had to test it in the FDF, it sucked balls.

They spray it in our riot police so that they develop resistance.

Like ??????????

[The Huskar Social Union]

What bullshit is this, seriously what the fuck.

Absolutely horrendous.

[Jetan]

Nasty. I've only ever had to test it in the FDF, it sucked balls.

They spray it in our riot police so that they develop resistance.

Like ??????????

Yes, that's basically the same principle as it was in FDF, altough more extreme. I was MP, so we had an excersise where we had to go grab a guy from a firewood shed filled with the gas to show us what's it like to walk into your own gas. It felt like someone was slashing your eyeballs with a knife every time you tried to open your eyes. It wasn't even direct spray, and it still took over 20 minutes of submerging your head in a bucket full of cold water and physically forcing your eyes open with your hands, taking a breath and repeating the process, just to be able to squint outside the bucket. And this was with indirect exposure.

[Edgy Opinions]

Yes, that's basically the same principle as it was in FDF, altough more extreme. I was MP, so we had an excersise where he had to go grab a guy from a firewood shed filled with the gas to show us what's it like to walk into your own gas. It felt like someone was slashing your eyeballs with a knife every time you tried to open your eyes. It wasn't even direct spray, and it still took over 20 minutes of submerging your head in a bucket full of cold water and physically forcing your eyes open with your hands, taking a breath and repeating the process, just to be able to squint outside the bucket. And this was with indirect exposure.

I know, right? The police threw it close to some of my relatives and the residue coming from their clothes ended up irritating my rhinitis enormously. (No, I wasn't dumb enough to have physical contact.)

[Uxupox]

While I do support strict discipline, as most I know do [.]

Physical discipline is child abuse, even from the family. Even more so from those who aren't.

I wouldn't call Physical discipline child abuse, when I was disciplined back then when I was a kid it was because I was being a little infuriating troublemaker shitting on everybody's business(I even once dipped my sister's head into a bucket of oil). I learned to fear the Chuso(An electrical wire peeled for such occasions) and my grandfather's wrath more than anything and thankfully enough I turned out just fine. These days though I've noticed a trend with the newest family members as Physical discipline isn't exercised any more in my family and I already know that my newest cousins are not gonna be the most functioning members of society. Could it be that they need Physical discipline that was taught to me and my older family members or could it be that their parents fail parenting? I don't know really.

Children should never be teargassed and even more so over a protest of a demolition over a playground it's fucking unacceptable.

[Earl of Sandwich IV]

Because children being teargassed is definitely the worst going on in kenya and africa. Totally noteworthy.

[Purpelia]

Because children being teargassed is definitely the worst going on in kenya and africa. Totally noteworthy.

I don't know. I find it kind of comforting that with all the hell happening on that continent there is still enough of a good life for people to be outraged over such minor things.

[Edgy Opinions]

I wouldn't call Physical discipline child abuse, when I was disciplined back then when I was a kid it was because I was being a little infuriating troublemaker shitting on everybody's business(I even once dipped my sister's head into a bucket of oil). I learned to fear the Chuso(An electrical wire peeled for such occasions) and my grandfather's wrath more than anything and thankfully enough I turned out just fine. These days though I've noticed a trend with the newest family members as Physical discipline isn't exercised any more in my family and I already know that my newest cousins are not gonna be the most functioning members of society. Could it be that they need Physical discipline that was taught to me and my older family members or could it be that their parents fail parenting? I don't know really.

Of course it's not that physical discipline helps. There is evidence to suggest that physical discipline doesn't help jack shit, and that it breeds fear rather than respect, communication and understanding. Exposition to or naturalization of any form of violence is never psychologically healthy or helpful.

And while some would just be passive about these attitudes, I had self-esteem enough to be very rebellious against it myself, particularly past age 9. To further make the point it wouldn't help jack shit.

[Purpelia]

Of course it's not that physical discipline helps. There is evidence to suggest that physical discipline doesn't help jack shit, and that it breeds fear rather than respect, communication and understanding. Exposition to or naturalization of any form of violence is never psychologically healthy or helpful.

And how do you propose one communicates with a child that is so small that it has no concept of right and wrong and can't understand why it's a bad idea to stick a finger into a broken electrical socket? Yes, it is something you should stop doing after a certain age when the child gets smart enough to talk to. But that does not mean it's a bad idea all round.

[Ethel mermania]

The article said, "teachers and activists" were with them, so sadly there may have been other people there doing things that deserved tear gassing, the article also said a cop got hurt. What the heck was going on?

[Costa Fierro]

Because children being teargassed is definitely the worst going on in kenya and africa. Totally noteworthy.

I don't know. I find it kind of comforting that with all the hell happening on that continent there is still enough of a good life for people to be outraged over such minor things.

Because gassing children is an everyday occurrence in Africa. Like famine or an albino's body parts being harvested for their magical powers.

[Earl of Sandwich IV]

I don't know. I find it kind of comforting that with all the hell happening on that continent there is still enough of a good life for people to be outraged over such minor things.

Because gassing children is an everyday occurrence in Africa. Like famine or an albino's body parts being harvested for their magical powers.

No, usually they get shot or hacked to pieces with machetes.

[Purpelia]

I don't know. I find it kind of comforting that with all the hell happening on that continent there is still enough of a good life for people to be outraged over such minor things.

Because gassing children is an everyday occurrence in Africa. Like famine or an albino's body parts being harvested for their magical powers.

Exactly. For the level of things they do on that continent teargassing children is kind of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking.
It's like: They kidnap girls for sex slavery, have religious wars that displace millions, have tribal wars that end in genocide, and they teargas some children over a playground dispute.

[Edgy Opinions]

And how do you propose one communicates with a child that is so small that it has no concept of right and wrong and can't understand why it's a bad idea to stick a finger into a broken electrical socket? Yes, it is something you should stop doing after a certain age when the child gets smart enough to talk to. But that does not mean it's a bad idea all round.

You need to use pain to convince them to or just restrict them?

[The Joseon Dynasty]

Because gassing children is an everyday occurrence in Africa. Like famine or an albino's body parts being harvested for their magical powers.

Exactly. For the level of things they do on that continent teargassing children is kind of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking.
It's like: They kidnap girls for sex slavery, have religious wars that displace millions, have tribal wars that end in genocide, and they teargas some children over a playground dispute.

That's a pretty major thing in Kenya. Africa isn't some homogenous blob of terrible atrocities.

[Uxupox]

And how do you propose one communicates with a child that is so small that it has no concept of right and wrong and can't understand why it's a bad idea to stick a finger into a broken electrical socket? Yes, it is something you should stop doing after a certain age when the child gets smart enough to talk to. But that does not mean it's a bad idea all round.

You need to use pain to convince them to or just restrict them?

Time out didn't work on me I'll tell you that much.

[Purpelia]

And how do you propose one communicates with a child that is so small that it has no concept of right and wrong and can't understand why it's a bad idea to stick a finger into a broken electrical socket? Yes, it is something you should stop doing after a certain age when the child gets smart enough to talk to. But that does not mean it's a bad idea all round.

You need to use pain to convince them to or just restrict them?

Neither. You use it to train their thought processes to understand the relationship between cause and effect. Simply put, small children do not have the thought processes to understand why things are wrong in the long run. They can understand why it's bad to chew on broken glass because that hurts. But they can't understand why it's bad to chew on the seats in public transport even though that's just as dangerous. No amount of talking is going to explain germ theory to a 4 year old. So you use physical pain to create that immediate response and train them to understand there are things they should not do because they cause pain. Just like training a dog. And when they grow older you can than start explaining why these things are wrong as a substitute.

Africa isn't some homogenous blob of terrible atrocities.

And that is the part I find comforting.

[Edgy Opinions]

That's a pretty major thing in Kenya. Africa isn't some homogenous blob of terrible atrocities.

Silly Joseon, so you also mean that the Netherlands doesn't have anti-gay propaganda laws, Russia has no legalization of all the cannabis you can buy, Norway had no destructive recession in 2008, Portugal has no crèches welcoming children to gender-neutral pronouns and Greece doesn't have attempts to block internet porn?!

[MERIZoC]

The hell? Great oversight there.

[Dakini]

Of course it's not that physical discipline helps. There is evidence to suggest that physical discipline doesn't help jack shit, and that it breeds fear rather than respect, communication and understanding. Exposition to or naturalization of any form of violence is never psychologically healthy or helpful.

And how do you propose one communicates with a child that is so small that it has no concept of right and wrong and can't understand why it's a bad idea to stick a finger into a broken electrical socket? Yes, it is something you should stop doing after a certain age when the child gets smart enough to talk to. But that does not mean it's a bad idea all round.

Setting aside the fact that using a small amount of force to prevent a child from harming themselves is very different from employing physical discipline or corporeal punishment: No, there's never a benefit to using corporeal punishment. There are several downsides to using corporeal punishment on children including increased aggression and most pediatric societies strongly recommend against using it.

If you use force to prevent a child from hurting themselves, it should be limited to moving the child out of harm's way in a way that also doesn't hurt them (e.g. if you see a child reaching into a light socket, push their hand out of the way, don't smack them around for it).

[Purpelia]

Setting aside the fact that using a small amount of force to prevent a child from harming themselves is very different from employing physical discipline or corporeal punishment: No, there's never a benefit to using corporeal punishment. There are several downsides to using corporeal punishment on children including increased aggression and most pediatric societies strongly recommend against using it.

Such societies are frankly front for the modern ultra liberal thought of being soft on everyone. They fit well within the modern view of democracy-everything and freedom-everyone and equality-everywhere but that's it.

If you use force to prevent a child from hurting themselves, it should be limited to moving the child out of harm's way in a way that also doesn't hurt them (e.g. if you see a child reaching into a light socket, push their hand out of the way, don't smack them around for it).

Children are just humans. And humans are just animals. You train a child much like you'd train a dog. If the desired outcome is the same than so are the methods of achieving it.

[Edgy Opinions]

Children are just humans. And humans are just animals. You train a child much like you'd train a dog.

Mas hein?!

Never go full donkey.

[Dakini]

Setting aside the fact that using a small amount of force to prevent a child from harming themselves is very different from employing physical discipline or corporeal punishment: No, there's never a benefit to using corporeal punishment. There are several downsides to using corporeal punishment on children including increased aggression and most pediatric societies strongly recommend against using it.

Such societies are frankly front for the modern ultra liberal thought of being soft on everyone. They fit well within the modern view of democracy-everything and freedom-everyone and equality-everywhere but that's it.

If you use force to prevent a child from hurting themselves, it should be limited to moving the child out of harm's way in a way that also doesn't hurt them (e.g. if you see a child reaching into a light socket, push their hand out of the way, don't smack them around for it).

Children are just humans. And humans are just animals. You train a child much like you'd train a dog. If the desired outcome is the same than so are the methods of achieving it.

Yeah, and hitting dogs is also a really shitty way to train them and a very good way of giving them personality disorders too. I don't think you've ever met an abused dog since you seem to think this is a great fucking idea.