Should muslims be treated equally?

[Reddogkeno101]

No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.

I'm certainly not against muslims themselves, but to say that they are equal in terms of integration or political view is far fetched.

Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

0% Islamic population (Finland) = Zilch crime. Best education, best healthcare, best everything.
5% Islamic population (UK) = Intermittent terrorist attacks, new ultraconservative voting bloc, returning terrorists, campaign for sharia law and sharia police
10% Islamic population (France) = Terrorist attacks, car burning rampage every month, new ultraconservative voting bloc with the ability to decide elections, sharia law, sharia police, Marseilles destroyed & crime rampant.
15% Islamic population (Russia) = Frequent terrorist attacks, property damages, non-Islamic temples vandalized (churches, synagogues), intermittent war
30% Islamic population (Ethiopia) = Rioting, jihad militia, sporadic killings, burning of churches, synagogues.
50% Islamic population (Bosnia) = Widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, militia warfare
70% Islamic population (Nigeria, Tajikistan) = Civil war, ethnic cleansing, killings of infidels, usage of sharia law as a weapon
100% Islamic population (Afghanistan) = Hellhole, unless you have oil.

No.

[Edgy Opinions]

Americans commit far more ~terrorism~ against us than we can ever retribute

[MERIZoC]

Yes it is, in the case of the US it's Latinos.

Exactly why we need to put a stop to illegal immigration, but that's a topic for another thread.

In addition, “Latinos” is misleading, as Loonwatch is actually referring to Puerto Rican separatist groups, Cuban exile groups and the like.

Neither of these groups are illegal immigrants, as Puerto Ricans are already american, and the Cubans are generally welcomed with open arms.

[Imperializt Russia]

No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.

According to actual research bodies on the topic, it's not Muslims.

[Greater-London]

Of course they should. This means no profiling of Muslims, no restrictions on religious clothing and the ability to practice their faith openly. It also coincides with journalists and cartoonists being able to depict Mohammed and being able to criticize elements of Islam they disagree with without being labeled a racist or an islamophobe. Complete equality.

[Reddogkeno101]

It's not so much funny, just pretty disgusting that a human being can have such opinions.

Oh, I'm not laughing with him.

That much was obvious, it's pretty scary to think that he's got those opinions floating around in his head.

[NoblePhnx]

Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

^This is not at all a blanket statement its not like there are millions of muslims successfully integrated in the western world like anyone else.

[Saiwania]

You're fucking disgusting.

I feel that deep down inside, you know that what I've said is true.

Islam as a political force absolutely has to be destroyed- if Islam is ever to become just a religion like Christianity or Judaism has, rather than a political ideology that has global aspirations. Nothing good can ever come from an Islamic theocracy which strictly adheres to the Qur'an, asides from halting human progress where its dark shadow has been cast. The rise of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq is proof enough of what I say.

If Islamists had their way in Russia, Chechnya as a rogue province would effectively become a second Afghanistan; presenting a continuous threat to Russia on its doorstep. The people behind the Beslan school massacre would have safe haven. Russia obviously can't countenance this, just as Israel can't with regards to the Arab insurgents it deals with on a daily basis. In the end, this is a clash of civilizations which demands a victor. If the western world isn't willing to fight as Sun Tzu did, I can guarantee than the Muslim world will, and that will gradually lead to a new dark age where Islam will have near global control over all cultures/people.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yes it is, in the case of the US it's Latinos.

Exactly why we need to put a stop to illegal immigration, but that's a topic for another thread.

Because clearly all Latinos in the US are illegal immigrants, right guys?

[Imperializt Russia]

You're fucking disgusting.

I feel that deep down inside, you know that what I've said is true.

Islam as a political force absolutely has to be destroyed- if Islam is ever to become just a religion like Christianity or Judaism has, rather than a political ideology that has global aspirations. Nothing good can ever come from an Islamic theocracy which strictly adheres to the Qur'an, asides from halting human progress where its dark shadow has been cast. The rise of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq is proof enough of what I say.

If Islamists had their way in Russia, Chechnya as a rogue province would effectively become a second Afghanistan; presenting a continuous threat to Russia on its doorstep. The people behind the Beslan school massacre would have safe haven. Russia obviously can't countenance this, just as Israel can't with regards to the Arab insurgents it deals with on a daily basis. In the end, this is a clash of civilizations which demands a victor. If the western world isn't willing to fight as Sun Tzu did, I can guarantee than the Muslim world will, and that will gradually lead to a new dark age where Islam will have near global control over all cultures/people.

You can't go one sentence without being wrong, still.

[Southern Hampshire]

No.
I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.
I'm certainly not against muslims themselves, but to say that they are equal in terms of integration or political view is far fetched.
Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

how have you come to that conclusion?

Through reviewing the terror attacks in the EU in the last 10 years

No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.

According to actual research bodies on the topic, it's not Muslims.

These research topics go way too far back in time and also include continents where Muslims are almost non-existent.

Yes it is, in the case of the US it's Latinos.

Exactly why we need to put a stop to illegal immigration, but that's a topic for another thread.

Illegal immigration won't stop because it allows the Democrat party to get free votes.

[Southern Hampshire]

Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

^This is not at all a blanket statement its not like there are millions of muslims successfully integrated in the western world like anyone else.

I do not see the usage of religious clothing, religious drums to disturb a local community outside a mosque, knowledge of Arabic as native language (learning it before or during school) and believing in sharia law as "integrated", sorry.

[Conserative Morality]

You're fucking disgusting.

I feel that deep down inside, you know that what I've said is true.

Islam as a political force absolutely has to be destroyed- if Islam is ever to become just a religion like Christianity or Judaism has, rather than a political ideology that has global aspirations. Nothing good can ever come from an Islamic theocracy which strictly adheres to the Qur'an, asides from halting human progress where its dark shadow has been cast. The rise of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq is proof enough of what I say.

If Islamists had their way in Russia, Chechnya as a rogue province would effectively become a second Afghanistan; presenting a continuous threat to Russia on its doorstep. The people behind the Beslan school massacre would have safe haven. Russia obviously can't countenance this, just as Israel can't with regards to the Arab insurgents it deals with on a daily basis. In the end, this is a clash of civilizations which demands a victor. If the western world isn't willing to fight as Sun Tzu did, I can guarantee than the Muslim world will, and that will gradually lead to a new dark age where Islam will have near global control over all cultures/people.

It's amusing how you speak of it becoming 'just' a religion like Christianity or Judaism, contrasting them with the supposed barbarism of Islam when neither Christianity nor Judaism have their hands clean in the modern day, nor does Christianity lack global political aspirations. Unless, of course, you've missed the past century of dominionist thought et co.

[Teemant]

Yes they should be treated equally. But I don't support mass immigration to Europe to prevent problems.

[Conserative Morality]

You can't go one sentence without being wrong, still.

Look, just because some Christians call for the forced conversion or execution of all Muslims doesn't make all Christians terrorists!

It makes all Muslims terrorists.

[Des-Bal]

No there's no divine duty to the species.

[Trowulani Knights]

Being Muslim (though mainly nominal), I'm offended.

Well, 9/11 offended me.

Oh, so every Muslim is Al-Qaeda then? Well then I believe every christian is Spanish Inquisition.

[MERIZoC]

No there's no divine duty to the species.

….What?

[Edgy Opinions]

No there's no divine duty to the species.

….What?

He replied this in response to Kefka's thread. Maybe indicating it's as bad and nonsensical.

[Southern Hampshire]

I feel that deep down inside, you know that what I've said is true.

Islam as a political force absolutely has to be destroyed- if Islam is ever to become just a religion like Christianity or Judaism has, rather than a political ideology that has global aspirations. Nothing good can ever come from an Islamic theocracy which strictly adheres to the Qur'an, asides from halting human progress where its dark shadow has been cast. The rise of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq is proof enough of what I say.

If Islamists had their way in Russia, Chechnya as a rogue province would effectively become a second Afghanistan; presenting a continuous threat to Russia on its doorstep. The people behind the Beslan school massacre would have safe haven. Russia obviously can't countenance this, just as Israel can't with regards to the Arab insurgents it deals with on a daily basis. In the end, this is a clash of civilizations which demands a victor. If the western world isn't willing to fight as Sun Tzu did, I can guarantee than the Muslim world will, and that will gradually lead to a new dark age where Islam will have near global control over all cultures/people.

It's amusing how you speak of it becoming 'just' a religion like Christianity or Judaism, contrasting them with the supposed barbarism of Islam when neither Christianity nor Judaism have their hands clean in the modern day, nor does Christianity lack global political aspirations. Unless, of course, you've missed the past century of dominionist thought et co.

Modern day Judaism is completely free of barbarism, modern day Christianity is unacceptable but no where near the level of Islam.

[Des-Bal]

No there's no divine duty to the species.

….What?

Several explanations, it's possible I have too many tabs open but it's more likely computers are wizards and not to be trusted.

In any case everyone should be treated equally as a matter of principal. If we're being pragmatic and there's legitimately one group we should be worried about above all others looking at that group is probably the way to go.

[Reddogkeno101]

^This is not at all a blanket statement its not like there are millions of muslims successfully integrated in the western world like anyone else.

I do not see the usage of religious clothing, religious drums to disturb a local community outside a mosque, knowledge of Arabic as native language (learning it before or during school) and believing in sharia law as "integrated", sorry.

Ah, but religious clothing could be considered to be Western clothing could it not?

You can't go one sentence without being wrong, still.

Look, just because some Christians call for the forced conversion or execution of all Muslims doesn't make all Christians terrorists!

It makes all Muslims terrorists.

Thank you for making me laugh sir. A good one that was.

[NoblePhnx]

^This is not at all a blanket statement its not like there are millions of muslims successfully integrated in the western world like anyone else.

I do not see the usage of religious clothing, religious drums to disturb a local community outside a mosque, knowledge of Arabic as native language (learning it before or during school) and believing in sharia law as "integrated", sorry.

Bro do you know any muslims? do they all walk around with their "religious clothes" on. A majority of muslims know how to read Arabic specifically learned to be able to read the Qur'an however outside the arab world far fewer know Arabic as a complete langage they can speak and write in as well so.

The religious drums not sure about but it sounds like a major holiday of the Shiite sect that is undertaken only at specified times during the year thought I confess I don't know the details. Your point of view seems to entail that if they are practicing their religion in a western country they aren't integrated which is quite frankly absurd.

[Katganistan]

PITTSBURGH—Explaining how defending the population is the government’s ultimate responsibility, area man Greg Farnsworth told reporters Thursday he is willing to give up any of Muslims’ rights necessary to feel safe. “The bottom line is that we are putting innocent lives at risk if we don’t give the government more power to protect us, and if that means giving up a few constitutionally protected freedoms of Muslims in the process, so be it,” said Farnsworth, who added that, while he didn't necessarily like the idea of the NSA monitoring phone calls or emails, he believed it was vital to accept a few violations of privacy rights among those of the Islamic faith to ensure the nation remained secure. “If last week’s attacks taught us anything, it’s that al-Qaeda is still determined to kill as many people as they can. So if we have to add more security measures at airports for Muslims or track people online who are critical of the U.S. government, provided they are Muslim, in order to keep us safe, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.” Farnsworth added that, if you really considered the lives and well-being of your family, limiting a few rights for Muslims here and there isn't a bad trade-off at all.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-m ... hts,37780/

Even though the article is from the Onion, and obviously just satire, there's still a good amount of truth in it. All the recent terrorist attacks could have been prevented if muslims didn't have the same freedoms as other people. This may not be politically correct, but security should come long before political correctness. For example, measures to prevent muslims from owning firearms could have potentially prevented the Charlie Hebdo attack, and investigating muslims further before boarding flights (or just not allowing them on in the first place), could have prevented 9/11. Non-muslims are being needlessly subjected to excessive security measures because of the actions of muslims, which I find ridiculous. Of course, basic security measures should be taken for everyone, but let's face it, muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks.

So NSG, your opinion?

Why don't we just put all of them in concentration camps and nuke them from orbit? It's the only way to be sure.

Seriously, you're advocating treating some people as if they are guilty before they have committed any kind of crime. It's disgusting, and beyond that, a dangerous precedent to set.

Once set, any group could be considered guilty without the benefit of trial and jailed or treated as second class citizens. While I am sure there are some in this country who are getting aroused just at the idea that it might be possible to do to their political opponents, I'm not one of them.

I admit bias. After 9/11, some of my students didn't return to school for three weeks because they had been badly beaten.

They were thirteen years old. Some of them girls. And obviously, none of them involved in what was happening.

So no, it's a fucking evil and stupid idea.

[Reddogkeno101]

It's amusing how you speak of it becoming 'just' a religion like Christianity or Judaism, contrasting them with the supposed barbarism of Islam when neither Christianity nor Judaism have their hands clean in the modern day, nor does Christianity lack global political aspirations. Unless, of course, you've missed the past century of dominionist thought et co.

Modern day Judaism is completely free of barbarism, modern day Christianity is unacceptable but no where near the level of Islam.

Hang on, did you just say 'Modern day Judaism is completely free of barbarism'? Oh wait, your sig... nevermind.