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Postby Walrusko » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:41 am

Is this supposed to be satire? If it is, this is pretty bad.
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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:43 am

Walrusko wrote:Is this supposed to be satire? If it is, this is pretty bad.

Worse. It's bigotry.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:58 am

Political Islam is a threat to all non-Islamic nations in the long run, so my preferred foreign policy is to pit Muslims against each other where possible. Sunnis comprise the majority of Muslims, but if western nations made sure to artificially prop up the Shia side, both can conceivably be kept busy fighting each other so the Islamic world won't be able to turn their attention towards attempting to forcibly conquer any further territory from what they refer to all non-Islamic nations as: Dar al-Harb- the house of war.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:00 am

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The Onion wrote:PITTSBURGH—Explaining how defending the population is the government’s ultimate responsibility, area man Greg Farnsworth told reporters Thursday he is willing to give up any of Muslims’ rights necessary to feel safe. “The bottom line is that we are putting innocent lives at risk if we don’t give the government more power to protect us, and if that means giving up a few constitutionally protected freedoms of Muslims in the process, so be it,” said Farnsworth, who added that, while he didn't necessarily like the idea of the NSA monitoring phone calls or emails, he believed it was vital to accept a few violations of privacy rights among those of the Islamic faith to ensure the nation remained secure. “If last week’s attacks taught us anything, it’s that al-Qaeda is still determined to kill as many people as they can. So if we have to add more security measures at airports for Muslims or track people online who are critical of the U.S. government, provided they are Muslim, in order to keep us safe, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.” Farnsworth added that, if you really considered the lives and well-being of your family, limiting a few rights for Muslims here and there isn't a bad trade-off at all.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-m ... hts,37780/

Even though the article is from the Onion, and obviously just satire, there's still a good amount of truth in it. All the recent terrorist attacks could have been prevented if muslims didn't have the same freedoms as other people. This may not be politically correct, but security should come long before political correctness. For example, measures to prevent muslims from owning firearms could have potentially prevented the Charlie Hebdo attack, and investigating muslims further before boarding flights (or just not allowing them on in the first place), could have prevented 9/11. Non-muslims are being needlessly subjected to excessive security measures because of the actions of muslims, which I find ridiculous. Of course, basic security measures should be taken for everyone, but let's face it, muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks.

So NSG, your opinion?

The Charlie Hebdo attackers used illegally-acquired firearms.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:02 am

Saiwania wrote:Political Islam is a threat to all non-Islamic nations in the long run, so my preferred foreign policy is to pit Muslims against each other where possible. Sunnis comprise the majority of Muslims, but if western nations made sure to artificially prop up the Shia side, both can conceivably be kept busy fighting each other so the Islamic world won't be able to turn their attention towards attempting to forcibly conquer any further territory from what they refer to all non-Islamic nations as: Dar al-Harb- the house of war.

You've yet to espouse one opinion that is not fucking disgusting.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:08 am

Burleson 2 wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

Cool, so another inquisition, eh?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:15 am

Burleson 2 wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

Then there is no freedom.
There is domination and oppression.
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Postby Herargon » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:16 am

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:16 am

I've only read the first page and this is already one of the funniest threads ever.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:18 am

Ifreann wrote:I've only read the first page and this is already one of the funniest threads ever.

It's not so much funny, just pretty disgusting that a human being can have such opinions.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:23 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Burleson 2 wrote:I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

Then there is no freedom.
There is domination and oppression.

I've honestly never seen such blatant double standards on here.

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Postby Herargon » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:25 am

Merizoc wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Then there is no freedom.
There is domination and oppression.

I've honestly never seen such blatant double standards on here.


Agree, and it even stands in the constitution that everyone shall be treated equally:

Herargon wrote:All men and women are created equal
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:26 am

Merizoc wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Then there is no freedom.
There is domination and oppression.

I've honestly never seen such blatant double standards on here.

Good to see you've managed to avoid reading most of Saiwania's posts.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:26 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I've honestly never seen such blatant double standards on here.

Good to see you've managed to avoid reading most of Saiwania's posts.

The ignore function is useful.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:27 am

I don't use it.
It gives me a useful reminder that no matter what, I will be better than some people.
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Postby Herargon » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:28 am

Merizoc wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Good to see you've managed to avoid reading most of Saiwania's posts.

The ignore function is useful.


Where is that? Never seen that function. :blink:
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:28 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I don't use it.
It gives me a useful reminder that no matter what, I will be better than some people.

I don't use it because I find it ridiculous.

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:29 am

Herargon wrote:Where is that? Never seen that function. :blink:

Somewhere in User Control Panel.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:31 am

It's called Friend or Foe there, I think.
At least it was when I joined.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:32 am

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I don't use it.
It gives me a useful reminder that no matter what, I will be better than some people.

I don't use it because I find it ridiculous.

True netizens stand to trolls like orkut users in our golden era.

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Postby Southern Hampshire » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:33 am

No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.

I'm certainly not against muslims themselves, but to say that they are equal in terms of integration or political view is far fetched.

Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

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10% Islamic population (France) = Terrorist attacks, car burning rampage every month, new ultraconservative voting bloc with the ability to decide elections, sharia law, sharia police, Marseilles destroyed & crime rampant.
15% Islamic population (Russia) = Frequent terrorist attacks, property damages, non-Islamic temples vandalized (churches, synagogues), intermittent war
30% Islamic population (Ethiopia) = Rioting, jihad militia, sporadic killings, burning of churches, synagogues.
50% Islamic population (Bosnia) = Widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, militia warfare
70% Islamic population (Nigeria, Tajikistan) = Civil war, ethnic cleansing, killings of infidels, usage of sharia law as a weapon
100% Islamic population (Afghanistan) = Hellhole, unless you have oil.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:36 am

Southern Hampshire wrote:No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.


Yes it is, in the case of the US it's Latinos.
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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:36 am

Southern Hampshire wrote:No.
I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.
I'm certainly not against muslims themselves, but to say that they are equal in terms of integration or political view is far fetched.
Islam is a religion incompatible with the West and anyone who believes in it should be looked at with caution.

how have you come to that conclusion?

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Postby Burleson 2 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:37 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:No.

I'm not against racial profiling, it is clear who commits the most terrorist attacks when given the chance.


Yes it is, in the case of the US it's Latinos.

Exactly why we need to put a stop to illegal immigration, but that's a topic for another thread.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:38 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I've only read the first page and this is already one of the funniest threads ever.

It's not so much funny, just pretty disgusting that a human being can have such opinions.

Oh, I'm not laughing with him.

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