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-United Islamic Emirate-
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:39 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Abortion clinc bombings kill more than the Boston bombing.

Like I told someone earlier, I fail to see how a lesser body count makes one a lesser issue than the other. When people die, it's a big issue. No matter how few or many die.

So why target Islam specifically?
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:40 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Like I told someone earlier, I fail to see how a lesser body count makes one a lesser issue than the other. When people die, it's a big issue. No matter how few or many die.

So why target Islam specifically?


Most of us aren't.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:41 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Like I told someone earlier, I fail to see how a lesser body count makes one a lesser issue than the other. When people die, it's a big issue. No matter how few or many die.

So why target Islam specifically?

Most likely because it receives the most media attention, is more widespread, and is generally involved in higher profile actions. Not saying it's right that it is singled out, just giving possible reasons.
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:44 pm

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Orveleco wrote:I'm already on every terrorist, revolutionary, and sex offender registry in the northern hemisphere. This is nothing new to me. I'm just waiting for the day I get raided. I've already set up a wide variety of traps.

What the f*ck did you just f*cking say about me, you little b*tch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*ck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*cking words. You think you can get away with saying that sh*t to me over the Internet? Think again, f*cker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*cking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a*s off the face of the continent, you little sh*t. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*cking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you godd*mn idiot. I will sh*t fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*cking dead, kiddo.


This shit right hear cracked me up and made my day! :) :rofl: :hug: :lol: :lol2:
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:45 pm

-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:
This shit right hear cracked me up and made my day! :) :rofl: :hug: :lol: :lol2:


It gets less and less amusing the more you see it.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:46 pm

No seriously what a f*cking dum question.
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Postby Seraven » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:50 pm

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Orveleco wrote:I'm already on every terrorist, revolutionary, and sex offender registry in the northern hemisphere. This is nothing new to me. I'm just waiting for the day I get raided. I've already set up a wide variety of traps.

What the f*ck did you just f*cking say about me, you little b*tch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*ck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*cking words. You think you can get away with saying that sh*t to me over the Internet? Think again, f*cker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*cking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a*s off the face of the continent, you little sh*t. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*cking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you godd*mn idiot. I will sh*t fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*cking dead, kiddo.


Easy lads, you could get banned for this.
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Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.

An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:51 pm

Seraven wrote:Easy lads, you could get banned for this.

That's why I censored it.

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Postby Seraven » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:52 pm

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Seraven wrote:Easy lads, you could get banned for this.

That's why I censored it.


Just keep your eye on Moderation forum.
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The Alma Mater wrote:
Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.

An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby Kubra » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:53 pm

Seraven wrote:
The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:What the f*ck did you just f*cking say about me, you little b*tch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*ck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*cking words. You think you can get away with saying that sh*t to me over the Internet? Think again, f*cker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*cking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a*s off the face of the continent, you little sh*t. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*cking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you godd*mn idiot. I will sh*t fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*cking dead, kiddo.


Easy lads, you could get banned for this.
Original works of nastiness are grounds for banning. joke copypasta like this probably isn't.
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Postby Red Fury » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:54 pm

Most of the terrorist attacks (at least in the United States) have been carried out by white male atheists/Christians; not Muslims. If you need to ask yourself if some people should be treated equally than others based on beliefs and not actions then you need to reconsider your thinking.

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Postby Red Fury » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:55 pm

Seraven wrote:
The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:What the f*ck did you just f*cking say about me, you little b*tch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the f*ck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my f*cking words. You think you can get away with saying that sh*t to me over the Internet? Think again, f*cker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re f*cking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable a*s off the face of the continent, you little sh*t. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your f*cking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you godd*mn idiot. I will sh*t fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re f*cking dead, kiddo.


Easy lads, you could get banned for this.


It's a meme.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:59 pm

Red Fury wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Easy lads, you could get banned for this.


It's a meme.

We're aware. Oh believe me, we are aware. People have been banned as it is considered spam.
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Postby Seraven » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:00 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Red Fury wrote:
It's a meme.

We're aware. Oh believe me, we are aware. People have been banned as it is considered spam.


I'm not aware, unfortunately.
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The Alma Mater wrote:
Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.

An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P

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Postby The Land of Eternal Prosperity » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:06 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Red Fury wrote:
It's a meme.

We're aware. Oh believe me, we are aware. People have been banned as it is considered spam.

didn't see it in the "rules to pay attention to" page.

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Postby Land and Freedom » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:07 am

Of course.

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Postby Kubra » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:11 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Red Fury wrote:
It's a meme.

We're aware. Oh believe me, we are aware. People have been banned as it is considered spam.
Naw it was contextually relevant in this case.
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Postby Red Fury » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:13 am

Kubra wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:We're aware. Oh believe me, we are aware. People have been banned as it is considered spam.
Naw it was contextually relevant in this case.

Seconded.

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Postby Galmarch » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:30 am

Why not simply treat muslims as everyone else?
If we were to treat them as second class citizens or as potential terrorists then that would in my opinion increase the likelyhood to fundamentalize them as they are becoming increasingly tired to be marginalized thus selfinflicting the prophecy that they are all terrorists.
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Postby Red Fury » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:49 am

Galmarch wrote:Why not simply treat muslims as everyone else?
If we were to treat them as second class citizens or as potential terrorists then that would in my opinion increase the likelyhood to fundamentalize them as they are becoming increasingly tired to be marginalized thus selfinflicting the prophecy that they are all terrorists.

"Were to" or "already are?"

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Postby Utceforp » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:04 am

Yes. Duh. /thread.
Signatures are so 2014.

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Postby Galmarch » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:30 am

Red Fury wrote:
Galmarch wrote:Why not simply treat muslims as everyone else?
If we were to treat them as second class citizens or as potential terrorists then that would in my opinion increase the likelyhood to fundamentalize them as they are becoming increasingly tired to be marginalized thus selfinflicting the prophecy that they are all terrorists.

"Were to" or "already are?"


Depends on where one lives I guess. Some places are better than others in terms of acceptance and all that.
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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:47 am

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The Risen Jaguar Warriors wrote:For the OP to read: http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com
Stop daubing everyone with the same brush. And The Onion is even worse than The Daily Fail and Pox News combined.

The difference between those two and The Onion is that The Onion isn't intended to be taken seriously.

And the last two are intended to be taken seriously (AND out of proportion)... But people should know better than to take those two seriously...
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:14 am

Burleson 2 wrote: All the recent terrorist attacks could have been prevented if muslims didn't have the same freedoms as other people. This may not be politically correct, but security should come long before political correctness. For example, measures to prevent muslims from owning firearms could have potentially prevented the Charlie Hebdo attack, and investigating muslims further before boarding flights (or just not allowing them on in the first place), could have prevented 9/11. Non-muslims are being needlessly subjected to excessive security measures because of the actions of muslims, which I find ridiculous. Of course, basic security measures should be taken for everyone, but let's face it, muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks.

So NSG, your opinion?


Good idea.

Given these data ( http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison3.html ) it's also evident that religious people are more likely to be proven to be criminals in a fair trial than irreligious people are. Hence, following your own standard, the world would be a better place if religious people didn't have the same freedoms as other people. Measures to prevent Christians from owning firearms could have potentially prevented the Oklahoma City bombings, and not allowing religious people on airplanes could have prevented 9/11. Irreligious people are being needlessly subjected to excessive security measures because of the actions of religious people, which I find ridiculous. Of course, basic security measures should be taken for everyone, but let's face it, religious people are more likely to be criminals.

Your very same (stupid) argument, but at least I HAD SOME BLOODY DATA SUPPORTING IT.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:36 am

You claim to support religious freedom yet you want people who practice different beliefs to have their rights infringed on and you base your arguments for such on bullshit generalizations and fallacies and attempt to use a satire article that is taking the piss out of people exactly like you to strengthen your arguments by saying it has "good points"

What a fucking bad joke, -100/10

hell fuck it im throwing you on ignore as well, im not lowering my iq reading any more of your inane arguments.
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