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Is there a duty?

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:20 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I beat you to it: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=327443&p=23170763#p23170763

If I had realized being the first to call perv was a competition, it would have been the second post.

Your loss.
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Postby Novorobo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:23 pm

What exactly would wipe out all but two humans that couldn't be seen as justification for letting the species go extinct?

Also, seeing as how the right to choose with whom you have sex, when you have sex, and have un-sabotaged birth control when you have sex, I'm not sure how any disagreement on this could lead to reproduction without violating some key rights.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:39 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:You wake up the next day, all of humanity except you and one girl in your class.... HAS DISAPPEARED!

It would be highly inappropriate for me to have sex with one of my students, you know.
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Postby Digital Planets » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:42 pm

Conscentia wrote:God intervenes? That's how you're solving the genetics issue? Seriously?

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This is true.


Except Red Foreman. He has the duty of sticking his foot in people's asses and calling them dumbasses.
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Postby Digital Planets » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:44 pm

Risottia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:You wake up the next day, all of humanity except you and one girl in your class.... HAS DISAPPEARED!

It would be highly inappropriate for me to have sex with one of my students, you know.


TIL Risottia is a sex-ed teacher.
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Postby Segland » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:44 pm

We are under no obligation to perpetuate our species. So no.
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Postby Sarigen » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:29 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
so what has your sexual orientation got to do with the duty to reproduce?

are you saying that even in an extreme situation where life depended on it, your would absolutely refuse to do penis-vagina coitus? - you don't have to enjoy it :eyebrow:

It probably would have less to do with lack of enjoyment (nerve stimulation is what causes enjoyment) and more with not wanting to be forced into such a partnership.


Precisely. I'm not an animal, to be 'bred'. I don't have to 'breed' and will not do so. Also, by the by, a lot of humans are infertile due to development, physical anatomy, etc., so you'd have to be quite particular about who these last humans are. Not to mention that a lot of people don't want to or are incapable of supporting kids. To be honest, unless the remaining couple were exceptional in every way, even with the special device, the human race would end if this occurred. Let us hope this does not happen!

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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:30 pm

Hell the fuck no!

We'd end up worse than Charles II of Spain!
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Postby Novorobo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:24 pm

Digital Planets wrote:
Risottia wrote:It would be highly inappropriate for me to have sex with one of my students, you know.


TIL Risottia is a sex-ed teacher.

Or any other teacher, really. No reason to be sex ed in particular. o.o

Though that does raise the other question of what if the only two remaining include someone who was underage and someone who wasn't...
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:28 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Cetacea wrote:so what has your sexual orientation got to do with the duty to reproduce?

are you saying that even in an extreme situation where life depended on it, your would absolutely refuse to do penis-vagina coitus? - you don't have to enjoy it :eyebrow:

It probably would have less to do with lack of enjoyment (nerve stimulation is what causes enjoyment) and more with not wanting to be forced into such a partnership.

Plenty of men who can get pregnant, though. :P
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:30 pm

Novorobo wrote:
Digital Planets wrote:
TIL Risottia is a sex-ed teacher.

Or any other teacher, really. No reason to be sex ed in particular. o.o

Though that does raise the other question of what if the only two remaining include someone who was underage and someone who wasn't...

I'd wait the other person to be 20-25 depending on my age at the time. (Such global apocalypse won't happen before I'm 30, so... A 20-year-old would still be a kiddo, taking myself as reference.)
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:35 pm

Are you SURE you don't make these threads to use them as a basis for school creative writing essays?
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:36 pm

tl;dr shitloads of incest
for the record, no, I don't think there's a 'duty to reproduce'.
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Postby Novorobo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:47 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Novorobo wrote:Or any other teacher, really. No reason to be sex ed in particular. o.o

Though that does raise the other question of what if the only two remaining include someone who was underage and someone who wasn't...

I'd wait the other person to be 20-25 depending on my age at the time. (Such global apocalypse won't happen before I'm 30, so... A 20-year-old would still be a kiddo, taking myself as reference.)

And then there's the factor of "you never know what would happen in the next few years" to contend with.

I think it also depends on what resources were available. Was it a matter of some freak accident somehow killing everyone but leaving most resources, including harvested ones, intact? Then they can easily "afford" kids and that pokes a hole in some of the usual reasons not to breed with the underage.


Mavorpen wrote:Are you SURE you don't make these threads to use them as a basis for school creative writing essays?

I'm pretty sure if he writes an essay about a global apocalypse causing a girl in his class to have to have sex with him he's going to be the one getting in trouble.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:47 pm

Mavorpen wrote:Are you SURE you don't make these threads to use them as a basis for school creative writing essays?

I wish there was NSG when I was in the 3rd grade.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:50 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Are you SURE you don't make these threads to use them as a basis for school creative writing essays?

I wish there was NSG when I was in the 3rd grade.

why?
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:50 pm

Novorobo wrote:And then there's the factor of "you never know what would happen in the next few years" to contend with.

I think it also depends on what resources were available. Was it a matter of some freak accident somehow killing everyone but leaving most resources, including harvested ones, intact? Then they can easily "afford" kids and that pokes a hole in some of the usual reasons not to breed with the underage.

Hmmm I wouldn't have a weird relationship with someone much much much younger with solely me as the only other example of highly communicative and highly cognizant individual because that'd be potentially exploitative/predatory aside inherently creepy?
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:54 pm

Kumbhalgarh wrote:Sure if the girl's pussy is big enough for mah 12 inch


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Even if she was the last woman on Earth I wouldn't let her unwrap it.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:56 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:I wish there was NSG when I was in the 3rd grade.

why?

More of a joke for help with homework.

Actually, there was NSG in 2003, but I was neither knowledgeable in English nor had internet access.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:56 pm

At first I thought this was a The Last of Us RP from the title...Yes, I'm a nerd.

To the question, no, I don't think so. Honestly I think we'd probably be better without the human race. We don't need to start a new cycle of never ending destruction of our own planet.

So yeah, if you're counting on me to save the world from something like that, you're doomed because I just don't care.
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Postby Novorobo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:57 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Kumbhalgarh wrote:Sure if the girl's pussy is big enough for mah 12 inch


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Even if she was the last woman on Earth I wouldn't let her unwrap it.

Doesn't the vagina stretch to accommodate bigger penises anyway? Isn't that why a penis too big isn't as much of a problem as a penis too small anyway?
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:58 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:why?

More of a joke for help with homework.

Actually, there was NSG in 2003, but I was neither knowledgeable in English nor had internet access.

when I was in 3rd grade MSDOS was just released
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:00 pm

Corrian wrote:At first I thought this was a The Last of Us RP from the title...Yes, I'm a nerd.

To the question, no, I don't think so. Honestly I think we'd probably be better without the human race. We don't need to start a new cycle of never ending destruction of our own planet.

So yeah, if you're counting on me to save the world from something like that, you're doomed because I just don't care.

eh...
there's plenty of things that without human maintenance would be worse for the planet. moar Chernobyls
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:00 pm

Novorobo wrote:Doesn't the vagina stretch to accommodate bigger penises anyway? Isn't that why a penis too big isn't as much of a problem as a penis too small anyway?

There is plenty of biological variation. And too small... the most sensitive part is the first 5 centimeters. Penetration alone isn't the more relevant deal for most people with vulvas anyway.

I'm afraid this might be off-topic, though.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:05 pm

Novorobo wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
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Even if she was the last woman on Earth I wouldn't let her unwrap it.

Doesn't the vagina stretch to accommodate bigger penises anyway? Isn't that why a penis too big isn't as much of a problem as a penis too small anyway?

What are you talking about? A lot of women have issues with their partner being too large. It can be really painful.
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