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Do you approve of the United Kingdom?

I approve of the United Kingdom
168
63%
I disapprove of the United Kingdom
38
14%
I have neutral opinions on the United Kingdom
23
9%
I disapprove of their recent actions, but not their government
8
3%
I approve of their recent actions, but not their government
11
4%
I think Britain is arrogant, but regardless I like them.
20
7%
 
Total votes : 268

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New Aerios
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Postby New Aerios » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:56 pm

The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Tony was a centrist, Brown was a run of the mill centre leftist. The same can be said for Miliband. Then again, Miliband isn't PM. Come May, he very well may be, which is a scary thought.

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:58 pm

New Aerios wrote:
The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:GLORY TO THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY


Do we even have one?


Probably.

Probably they are also comprised of a grand total of five members sitting in a shed somewhere led by someone almost certainly called Bernard.
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Postby The Neo-Hellenic Republic » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:17 pm

New Aerios wrote:
The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:GLORY TO THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY


Do we even have one?

Yup!

http://libertarianpartyuk.com/
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Postby Ripoll » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:39 pm

New Aerios wrote:As a Brit, I like the UK. I absolutely despise the relatively recent trend towards authoritarianism and the borderline fascist policies that the Tories are enacting and that Labour, UKIP, and basically everyone else promise to enact.


Anarchists find mandatory child safety locks fascist ffs.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:44 pm

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:Hello Nationstates General. Today I have another question. Do you approve of the United Kingdom? The United Kingdom follows the United States on its tours around the world, always by its side. It is also a critical component in NATO. However, it has recently taken unpopular actions, like ignored radical Islam for fear of being labeled as a racist country. Or if the UKIP party wins, and it looks like it is, it will leave the European Union. But still, on the other hand, it is sending troops to Estonia to help prepare Estonian troops. It was the country that has given birth to the most influential powers around the world. I.E Australia, Canada, United States, New Zealand. So my question is, do you approval or disapprove?


> Most influential powers around the world
> Australia, Canada, New Zealand
> wat
O'er the hills and o'er the main.
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain.
King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.


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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:45 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
The United States of North Amerigo wrote:Hello Nationstates General. Today I have another question. Do you approve of the United Kingdom? The United Kingdom follows the United States on its tours around the world, always by its side. It is also a critical component in NATO. However, it has recently taken unpopular actions, like ignored radical Islam for fear of being labeled as a racist country. Or if the UKIP party wins, and it looks like it is, it will leave the European Union. But still, on the other hand, it is sending troops to Estonia to help prepare Estonian troops. It was the country that has given birth to the most influential powers around the world. I.E Australia, Canada, United States, New Zealand. So my question is, do you approval or disapprove?


> Most influential powers around the world
> Australia, Canada, New Zealand
> wat

7/10ths of the worlds deadliest everything.
9/10ths of Hollywood talent.
SAVED US FROM SAURON.

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Postby Planita » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:45 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:46 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
> Most influential powers around the world
> Australia, Canada, New Zealand
> wat

7/10ths of the worlds deadliest everything.
9/10ths of Hollywood talent.
SAVED US FROM SAURON.

Dont forget the feared and dreaded Kangaroo and Moose Cavalry.

And the Navy Kiwis, the most feared special forces in the world.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:47 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
> Most influential powers around the world
> Australia, Canada, New Zealand
> wat

7/10ths of the worlds deadliest everything.
9/10ths of Hollywood talent.
SAVED US FROM SAURON.


Saved us from Sauron? More like GAVE US THE HOBBIT TRILOGY. boooh!
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O'er the hills and o'er the main.
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain.
King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.


THE NORTH REMEMBERS

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Postby Valaran » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:47 pm

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Postby New Aerios » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:49 pm

Ripoll wrote:
New Aerios wrote:As a Brit, I like the UK. I absolutely despise the relatively recent trend towards authoritarianism and the borderline fascist policies that the Tories are enacting and that Labour, UKIP, and basically everyone else promise to enact.


Anarchists find mandatory child safety locks fascist ffs.


No, just mass surveillance, internet censorship, limitation of free speech, strict gun control with barely any kind of right to defend oneself, all that bad stuff...
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:50 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:7/10ths of the worlds deadliest everything.
9/10ths of Hollywood talent.
SAVED US FROM SAURON.


Saved us from Sauron? More like GAVE US THE HOBBIT TRILOGY. boooh!


The Hobbit was eh.

The Lord of the Rings? Yes.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:53 pm

I disapprove of the United Kingdom being united.

North UK is pulling us down.

I also disapprove of the government (and previous government, and UKIP) as they are shit.

The cuts to military, the ultracomforting of Muslims as if their presence is precious, the lack of decision power through indecisive governments and lack of majority MPs in parliament, the lack of authoritarianism on issues of foreign aid & foreign welfare benefits, the lack of liberalism in issues of religion and backwardness

Overall, neutral.

Would be 100% approve if the question was about Southeast England.
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Postby Romalae » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:53 pm

Seems like a swell place. Never been there myself, but I flew over it once on my way to Berlin.

I generally approve of it as a country and as a society. Really, one of the only qualms I have with it is that its government seems too eager to fall in line with my country (the United States) in terms of foreign policy decisions.
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Postby Baltenstein » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:54 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:I disapprove of the United Kingdom being united.

North UK is pulling us down.

I also disapprove of the government (and previous government, and UKIP) as they are shit.

The cuts to military, the ultracomforting of Muslims as if their presence is precious, the lack of decision power through indecisive governments and lack of majority MPs in parliament, the lack of authoritarianism on issues of foreign aid & foreign welfare benefits, the lack of liberalism in issues of religion and backwardness

Overall, neutral.

Would be 100% approve if the question was about Southeast England.


English Democrat?
O'er the hills and o'er the main.
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain.
King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.


THE NORTH REMEMBERS

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Southern Hampshire
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:I'm not a Brit, but I think that since WW2, the UK has been a force of good in the world.

Well, until you remember the Mau Mau uprising, the Suez crisis, Afghanistan, and Iraq.


All of the ones you listed I see as a good point.

Oh well.

@Baltenstein

No, don't like Yorkshire etc. either. My ideal borders end on Oxfordshire.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:00 pm

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:However, it has recently taken unpopular actions, like ignored radical Islam for fear of being labeled as a racist country.

All those SAS snipers zipping about Syria popping IS militias are totally ignoring radical Islam amirite.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:02 pm

The Yorkshire Commonwealth wrote:
The United States of North Amerigo wrote:However, it has recently taken unpopular actions, like ignored radical Islam for fear of being labeled as a racist country. Or if the UKIP party wins, and it looks like it is, it will leave the European Union.
Also, it's second biggest city Birminghstan is 100% Muslim, and operates an ultra-strict variation of Sharia Law.


Yes I approve of the UK... Although for the next sixteen weeks at least, I disapprove of it's government.

No Birmingham is not 100% Muslim, like 40% of the population of Birmingham don't describe themselves as Muslim, and people I've talked to that live in Birmingham have told me they aren't Muslim. That was incorrect information on the American news front, but of course America's shitty media loused that up. And to why would I hate my own country question I saw floating around, I dislike mine, some countries are just awful no matter what they may appear.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:03 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
The Yorkshire Commonwealth wrote:Also, it's second biggest city Birminghstan is 100% Muslim, and operates an ultra-strict variation of Sharia Law.


Yes I approve of the UK... Although for the next sixteen weeks at least, I disapprove of it's government.

No Birmingham is not 100% Muslim, like 40% of the population of Birmingham don't describe themselves as Muslim, and people I've talked to that live in Birmingham have told me they aren't Muslim. That was incorrect information on the American news front, but of course America's shitty media loused that up. And to why would I hate my own country question I saw floating around, I dislike mine, some countries are just awful no matter what they may appear.

...

He is joking, Faux news reported that it was so generally we taking the piss out of it.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:11 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The United States of North Amerigo wrote:However, it has recently taken unpopular actions, like ignored radical Islam for fear of being labeled as a racist country.

All those SAS snipers zipping about Syria popping IS militias are totally ignoring radical Islam amirite.


British Police are banned from entering mosques for the purpose of upholding Police-muslim relations.

British Police in Rotherham have failed to notify or counter the abuse of 1400 children at the hands of Pakistani Muslim abusers.

British Police in London have failed to counter the Rigby murder despite being well-informed of the dangers.

British Police have failed to silence radical islamists such as Anjem Choudry.

British Police have failed to arrest MP Shabana Mahmood for inciting a riot in a Tesco for selling Israeli products out of fear the arrest will offend Muslims

British Police have failed to arrest terrorist-attack apologists such as Bakri Mohammed.

Your argument has zero value.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:14 pm

Most of your "points" aren't.

The FBI were well aware of the threat posed by the 9/11 bombers, yet failed to prevent that atrocity. Are American law enforcement afraid of inciting muslims to the point of inaction? No, and the same is true in the UK.

We don't silence radical clerics on account of their viewpoint unless they directly incite. Because of freedom of speech.
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Postby Anglo-California » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:19 pm

I am a fan of Great Britain, UKIP, and closer integration of the Anglosphere (but not too close).
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:19 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Most of your "points" aren't.

The FBI were well aware of the threat posed by the 9/11 bombers, yet failed to prevent that atrocity. Are American law enforcement afraid of inciting muslims to the point of inaction? No, and the same is true in the UK.

We don't silence radical clerics on account of their viewpoint unless they directly incite. Because of freedom of speech.


Freedom of speech doesn't exist in the UK.

Advocating Nazism, denying the holocaust and inciting hate of the Queen are all banned in the UK.

That is not freedom of speech.

Don't throw around words where they cannot be used.
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Postby Calimera II » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:24 pm

Anglo-California wrote:I am a fan of Great Britain, UKIP, and closer integration of the Anglosphere (but not too close).


Britain is already acting like one of the US' prostitutes. That's quite close if you ask me.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:25 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Most of your "points" aren't.

The FBI were well aware of the threat posed by the 9/11 bombers, yet failed to prevent that atrocity. Are American law enforcement afraid of inciting muslims to the point of inaction? No, and the same is true in the UK.

We don't silence radical clerics on account of their viewpoint unless they directly incite. Because of freedom of speech.


Freedom of speech doesn't exist in the UK.

Advocating Nazism, denying the holocaust and inciting hate of the Queen are all banned in the UK.

That is not freedom of speech.

Don't throw around words where they cannot be used.

Advocating Nazism is usually accompanied with advocating genocide.
Which is incitement.

Which is prohibited speech.
Nationalist rhetoric or fascist politics are not themselves criminal to behold.

Pretty sure "inciting hate of the Queen" is not prohibited speech. BBC satirical shows would have been cancelled unanimously about a decade if it were.
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