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Do you approve of the United Kingdom?

I approve of the United Kingdom
168
63%
I disapprove of the United Kingdom
38
14%
I have neutral opinions on the United Kingdom
23
9%
I disapprove of their recent actions, but not their government
8
3%
I approve of their recent actions, but not their government
11
4%
I think Britain is arrogant, but regardless I like them.
20
7%
 
Total votes : 268

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Edgy Opinions
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:22 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Wait, you mean I can moderate real life now?

:twisted:

*DEATs Belgium*

Oops.

I guess they're used to government shutdowns by now. :unsure:
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:24 am

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Sadly the best era of Britain, the Victorianian era is over and the morality and culture is degrading

Bourgeois morality needs to die you like it or not, and we are going to destroy what tries to destroy us. Bourgeois culture is inherently degrading.


What exactly is bourgeois culture?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:24 am

Calimera II wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
That is an insult to women in their 40s.


Oh come ooooon Nil.. :p


:twisted:
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Postby Norfolk and Suffolk » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:24 am

Forties? Please!

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:25 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Wait, you mean I can moderate real life now?

:twisted:


*DEATs Belgium*

Oops.


What's Belgium?
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Postby Glasgia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:26 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Patria Magna wrote:I can't approve of them when their entire political structure is based off of attacking Catholics.

We made peace with Catholicism, like, two hundred years ago.


Try twenty.

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:26 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
*DEATs Belgium*

Oops.


What's Belgium?


It's roads let Dutch people reach France.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:27 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Bourgeois morality needs to die you like it or not, and we are going to destroy what tries to destroy us. Bourgeois culture is inherently degrading.


What exactly is bourgeois culture?


The evil Liberal western values of tolerance and personal freedoms. *nods*
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:28 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
What exactly is bourgeois culture?


The evil Liberal western values of tolerance and personal freedoms. *nods*


In that case, I'm proud to be the spawn of evil bourgeois culture.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:29 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
Wait, you mean I can moderate real life now?

:twisted:


*DEATs Belgium*

Oops.

Redacts DEAT forwards it to North Korea.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:30 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Bourgeois morality needs to die you like it or not, and we are going to destroy what tries to destroy us. Bourgeois culture is inherently degrading.


What exactly is bourgeois culture?

Things socialists don't like. It's like the Left-wing version of "cultural Marxism."
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:30 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:The evil Liberal western values of tolerance and personal freedoms. *nods*

In that case, I'm proud to be the spawn of evil bourgeois culture.

One defined by the values of a society where the norm is wage slavery under a capitalist system, and the refusal of said norm grants you sickness and death.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:31 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
What's Belgium?


It's roads let Dutch people reach France.


Barely.

But this is quite offtopic.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:32 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
What's Belgium?


It's roads let Dutch people reach France.


I prefer the term "Hitler's Highway" :p
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:33 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
It's roads let Dutch people reach France.


Barely.

But this is quite offtopic.


Belgians must approve of the UK. We are part of the reason their country even exists.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:34 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Barely.

But this is quite offtopic.


Belgians must approve of the UK. We are part of the reason their country even exists.


Only if they approve of their own country. Which is not always the case :p
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:42 am

Benuty wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
*DEATs Belgium*

Oops.

Redacts DEAT forwards it to North Korea.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:52 am

Glasgia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:We made peace with Catholicism, like, two hundred years ago.


Try twenty.

The Troubles were no more a war of ideology with Catholicism than the Iraq War was a war of ideology with Islam.
Assuming you're referring to the Good Friday Agreement and one of the greatest steps forward in the Northern Ireland peace process.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:55 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Try twenty.

The Troubles were no more a war of ideology with Catholicism than the Iraq War was a war of ideology with Islam.
Assuming you're referring to the Good Friday Agreement and one of the greatest steps forward in the Northern Ireland peace process.

While by no means legitimizing their views, Patria Magna said Catholics.

I actually hold wars in the Middle East, the whole Charlie Hebdo hysteria and many more as indeed Islamophobic, myself. In the sense of Orientalist racism, and not just religious prejudice.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:59 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Belgians must approve of the UK. We are part of the reason their country even exists.


Only if they approve of their own country. Which is not always the case :p


Ah well, the perils of having two large groups of people in the same country. Also kind of our fault considering we helped draw the map that lead to the Creation of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands and therefore stored up some of the problems that caused the Belgian Revolution. :blush:
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:00 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Barely.

But this is quite offtopic.


Belgians must approve of the UK. We are part of the reason their country even exists.

Of course they do. They'd miss us if we ever left.
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Postby Valaran » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:00 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Only if they approve of their own country. Which is not always the case :p


Ah well, the perils of having two large groups of people in the same country. Also kind of our fault considering we helped draw the map that lead to the Creation of the United Kingdom of the Netherlands and therefore stored up some of the problems that caused the Belgian Revolution. :blush:



Drawing bad maps of other nations is am awful habit of ours. Hopefully we've kicked that by now.
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Postby Pesda » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:01 am

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Pesda wrote:Yes, I can be. What is annoying is that I am expected to be that even though Britishness does not appeal to me.

Of course. What I don't like is the British nationality being forced on me.

Your argument is fairly selfish. You dislike British identity so you want to abolish the UK so that you don't have to be British, but in doing so you'd be robbing those such as myself who value their British identity of it. We're not stripping you of your Welsh identity, you can call yourself Welsh rather than British if you so desire. But you'd rob millions of others of their British identity.

I don't think you understand. I don't oppose a British identity for those who want it; I oppose the political entity that tries to make me adopt an identity which is not mine. You call yourself whatever you want.
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Postby Valaran » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:02 am

Pesda wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Your argument is fairly selfish. You dislike British identity so you want to abolish the UK so that you don't have to be British, but in doing so you'd be robbing those such as myself who value their British identity of it. We're not stripping you of your Welsh identity, you can call yourself Welsh rather than British if you so desire. But you'd rob millions of others of their British identity.

I don't think you understand. I don't oppose a British identity for those who want it; I oppose the political entity that tries to make me adopt an identity which is not mine. You call yourself whatever you want.



In what way is this 'entity' forcing you to be British? Secondly what even is a British identity?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:06 am

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The Troubles were no more a war of ideology with Catholicism than the Iraq War was a war of ideology with Islam.
Assuming you're referring to the Good Friday Agreement and one of the greatest steps forward in the Northern Ireland peace process.

While by no means legitimizing their views, Patria Magna said Catholics.

I actually hold wars in the Middle East, the whole Charlie Hebdo hysteria and many more as indeed Islamophobic, myself. In the sense of Orientalist racism, and not just religious prejudice.

The Iraq War is more a symptomatic failure of Cold War fallout, the misapplied realpolitik of the United States thereof, and possibly globalisation.
The Gulf War that proceeded it could be further argued as a failure (or natural consequence) of globalisation - the west mobilised to defend its supply of oil.
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