Child Silencer Device... Is it Ethical?

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

No it doesn't. Shutting your kids up is not a sign of good parenting.

the volume is down, but the substance of the communication is the same (just minus the irritation ti the household and neighbours)

Again, this is the wrong end to be tackling the problem from. And a rather poor excuse to implement it.

[Infected Mushroom]

the volume is down, but the substance of the communication is the same (just minus the irritation ti the household and neighbours)

Again, this is the wrong end to be tackling the problem from. And a rather poor excuse to implement it.

noise pollution is a serious social problem though

[Laerod]

All the more reason not to put tools in their hands.

the screams of a kid being abused can't be distinguished with much reliability from the screams of a child in tantrum anyhow

no real loss

Exactly what Jaime Lannister would say as he pushes Bran out the window! D=

[Laerod]

Again, this is the wrong end to be tackling the problem from. And a rather poor excuse to implement it.

noise pollution is a serious social problem though

Which is why it is good and just that daycare centers have been exempted from those laws over here.

[Lost heros]

Again, this is the wrong end to be tackling the problem from. And a rather poor excuse to implement it.

noise pollution is a serious social problem though

No it's not. Bad parenting maybe.

[New Aerios]

No, that's not at all ethical. Bodily sovereignty, free speech, all that jazz.

That said, I'd still like to take a few of them with me when I go to cinemas, restaurants etc.

[Vespalia]

Doesn't really seem like it, no.

[Scyobayrynn]

Children can be very very loud and obnoxious. I once had the very great misfortune of renting a space with a landlord who had two screaming little toddlers. Life wasn't easy.

Now imagine if they came up with a new invention. It's a type of collar you can harmlessly attach around the neck of your child. Once the collar is turned on, the child's screams are Muted. Whenever the child screams, no sound will come out but the parent will get a message on his touchpad (Ring... *looks at text messages... Message: ''Your child wants something''...).

It's much less of a hassle RIGHT?

But is it ethical?

One of my friends has suggested that its unethical because its ''unatural''. He also suggests that this interferes with the child's bodily sovereignty and that it MIGHT (although he can't prove it), cause developmental problems of some sort later down the road.

I think it's fine though because it doesn't harm the child physically while it makes everybody's life easier. Also, you shouldn't have to worry about developmental problems if there is sufficient testing and regulation by the government. The parents are also less likely to be irritated (text messages are much better than the bawling) and so this should lead to better parenting. I think its bloody brilliant. What do you think?

Im a parent I think its ethical. I am certain it would used for neglect, but the device doesnt do harm, and there are places where it would simply be polite to use this(planes, grocery stores, movie theaters).

Of course the other solution is to not raise a fucking animal, then it wouldnt need a collar.

[Bolrieg]

Well tell their parents to control their kids better, that will be more cost effective.

[Imperializt Russia]

This is the technological equivalent of leaving your child in a pram at the bottom of the garden.

Hell fucking no is it "ethical".

[The Emerald Dawn]

I thought when I looked at the thread title that someone had invented it. I was going to say that it was a technological marvel.

Ethically it's abhorrent.

[Old Tyrannia]

I thought when I looked at the thread title that someone had invented it. I was going to say that it was a technological marvel.

Ethically it's abhorrent.

I invented a child silencer. Behold, the greatest technological marvel of the age!

[Laerod]

I thought when I looked at the thread title that someone had invented it. I was going to say that it was a technological marvel.

Ethically it's abhorrent.

I invented a child silencer. Behold, the greatest technological marvel of the age!

He said "abhorrent" not "adhesive"! D=

[Infected Mushroom]

I thought when I looked at the thread title that someone had invented it. I was going to say that it was a technological marvel.

Ethically it's abhorrent.

I invented a child silencer. Behold, the greatest technological marvel of the age!

let's not take this out of proportion...

[Imperial New Vegas]

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Child abuse? We restrict people's rights to make noise all of the time. For example, in the classroom the teacher can tell the students not to talk during the class. No one's complaining about an infringement there.

Since you can't tell a little kid to be quiet or reason with him/her, the collar is an acceptable substitute and compromise (you get your silence, but the child still gets to signal to you when he/she needs something).

Well one way around the problem of losing the child is to install a GPS tracking device into the device.

This way, when the parents get the texts, they can also access their child's location. So if the child wandered off into a random area, they can't be heard but they can still be tracked.[/quote]

You disgust me.

[Summerset Plains]

Imagine this:
Parent puts on collar, because Parent is fucking mad that XXX has happened. So parent puts on collar on his/her own child and then beats the child mercilessly while no sound comes out.

[Great Nepal]

Imagine this:
Parent puts on collar, because Parent is fucking mad that XXX has happened. So parent puts on collar on his/her own child and then beats the child mercilessly while no sound comes out.

They could use a gag today or a cloth or duct tape... this changes nothing in that regard.

[Summerset Plains]

Imagine this:
Parent puts on collar, because Parent is fucking mad that XXX has happened. So parent puts on collar on his/her own child and then beats the child mercilessly while no sound comes out.

They could use a gag today or a cloth or duct tape... this changes nothing in that regard.

Still is sad.
Anyway CSD is unethical and should not be made. Use the funding for more useful stuff like.. Education or Funding for companies that help. Or helping repay loans

[Great Nepal]

They could use a gag today or a cloth or duct tape... this changes nothing in that regard.

Still is sad.

Yes but argument that it encourages abuse, kidnapping etc is ridiculous - there are already silencing devices which doesn't enable tracking or send alerts.

Anyway CSD is unethical and should not be made. Use the funding for more useful stuff like.. Education or Funding for companies that help. Or helping repay loans

How is it unethical provided it causes no developmental disorders?

[Lost heros]

Still is sad.

Yes but argument that it encourages abuse, kidnapping etc is ridiculous - there are already silencing devices which doesn't enable tracking or send alerts.

Anyway CSD is unethical and should not be made. Use the funding for more useful stuff like.. Education or Funding for companies that help. Or helping repay loans

How is it unethical provided it causes no developmental disorders?

How wouldn't it cause developmental disorders?

[Great Nepal]

Yes but argument that it encourages abuse, kidnapping etc is ridiculous - there are already silencing devices which doesn't enable tracking or send alerts.


How is it unethical provided it causes no developmental disorders?

How wouldn't it cause developmental disorders?

I am picturing something rather unintrusive (no idea why IM created this as collar, piece of clothing would be so much better) which essentially neutralizes the noise while providing visual and message alerts to the parents (or other guardian) so child doesn't scream and hears nothing - they hear everything but no one else does (they instead see the child's cloths glowing and get a message for instance) and they can respond accordingly.

Obviously it would be tested on actual kids, and if it creates any disorders it will never be sold.

[Imperializt Russia]

Disorders take years to develop. To have a meaningful study, you'd have to subject children to years of potential abuse.

Why not skip it, and just learn to parent?

[Great Nepal]

Disorders take years to develop. To have a meaningful study, you'd have to subject children to years of potential abuse.

Why not skip it, and just learn to parent?

Because we dont have parenting licence which requires parents to be educated on how to interpret toddler's concerns and pacify them.

[Imperializt Russia]

Disorders take years to develop. To have a meaningful study, you'd have to subject children to years of potential abuse.

Why not skip it, and just learn to parent?

Because we dont have parenting licence which requires parents to be educated on how to interpret toddler's concerns and pacify them.

So we should give them a device that makes them think they're doing it right? Sounds like the worst idea ever to encourage hands-off parenting, the kind that actually kills children.

[Laerod]

Disorders take years to develop. To have a meaningful study, you'd have to subject children to years of potential abuse.

Why not skip it, and just learn to parent?

Because we dont have parenting licence which requires parents to be educated on how to interpret toddler's concerns and pacify them.

That's a dumb reason.