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The Regency of Stars
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Postby The Regency of Stars » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:32 pm

New Manvir wrote:
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Ifreann wrote:I know the Xenu story. Why haven't I died yet?


Cause Xenu is busy in a high-stakes poker game with Buddha, Yahweh, Mohammed and Vishnu.

What? Vishnu told me they weren't playing until next week! :(


He told Thor the same thing, man is he pissed.

I hear Xenu lost it all just now.
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Ifreann wrote:If whales had laser eyes the Japanese would stop hunting them in short order.


No they wouldn't.

They would use the eyes in their giant robots.

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Postby New Manvir » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:33 pm

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American Wang Car wrote:I was a heavy cocaine user for 20 years and Scientology saved my life.

:rofl:


Though I agree somewhat with that sentiment, that's a bit mean.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:35 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.


I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Saaturia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:38 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.


I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.

To be quite honest, the OP has long since left.
And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.

Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.
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Postby Uawc » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:47 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Scientology, however, demands that you spend years in the organisation and spend vast sums of cash before you can achieve the inner rank of Operating Thetan and discover the 'revealed truths'. I find that .... odd.


Probably because this is what they believe.


No! You must keep this secret! This is pirating copyrighted content! These people haven't paid to hear it! :lol2:
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Postby The Regency of Stars » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:50 pm

Saaturia wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.


I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.

To be quite honest, the OP has long since left.
And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.

Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.

so you do not want to be labeled a Untermensch by fanatics? Why not... it could be fun.
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Ifreann wrote:If whales had laser eyes the Japanese would stop hunting them in short order.


No they wouldn't.

They would use the eyes in their giant robots.

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Postby New Manvir » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:51 pm

The Regency of Stars wrote:
New Manvir wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
New Manvir wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I know the Xenu story. Why haven't I died yet?


Cause Xenu is busy in a high-stakes poker game with Buddha, Yahweh, Mohammed and Vishnu.

What? Vishnu told me they weren't playing until next week! :(


He told Thor the same thing, man is he pissed.

I hear Xenu lost it all just now.


That was quite a gamble when he went all in with all of his Hydrogen bombs. I wonder what Buddha is going to do with them all?
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Postby Saaturia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:52 pm

The Regency of Stars wrote:
Saaturia wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Oh, I'm quite familiar with Scientology precepts, thanks; though we undoubtedly have very different reasons for doing so, I'm quite with you for finding Scientology's core beliefs to be... somewhat unusual. In so far as I've engaged with this thread, I've been trying for that subtle combination of polite and faux naive.


I linked that specific video because it has Hubbard actually speaking, so the OP can't claim it's all lies.

To be quite honest, the OP has long since left.
And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.

Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.

so you do not want to be labeled a Untermensch by fanatics? Why not... it could be fun.

All I know is that they have... "resources".
Uh... Oh God, I've said too much!
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Postby Redwulf » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:52 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
UAWC wrote:Once, I heard this story about a guy who had schizophrenia in a Scientologist family. His mother would not let him get meds. One day when he was all whacked out, he got out of the shower and stabbed his mother about 75 times. I could be wrong about the number of stabs, but...yeah.


Indeed. Manic Depression is a farce. As they preach; you only need exercise and take vitamins and there is their technology that will fix it......


Scientolgists have the technology? Will they rebuild me? Make me faster, better, stronger?
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Postby JarVik » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:33 pm

Saaturia wrote:To be quite honest, the OP has long since left.
And I'm not going to say anything more drastic than a polite observation or a respectful statement of my non-association with the organization.

Because, well, I'm a bit frightened of them.


Pity, I was going to propose American Wang Car has to mud wrestle Kilo Mike Alpha and last 5 rounds to earn his local street preacher spot.

I'd put money down on KMA, as I don't think AMC can hope to match KMA's stamina. :p
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:36 pm

Redwulf wrote:Scientolgists have the technology? Will they rebuild me? Make me faster, better, stronger?


As long as you're willing to pay millions of dollars and "HABEEB IT!" when they tell you about Xenu.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Nattakun » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:15 pm

American Wang Car wrote:I was a heavy cocaine user for 20 years and Scientology saved my life.
You don't have to belief everything what you read in the media 'bout Scientology, most of it is untrue. About the things that are true, I can tell you that there are bad apples in every big organisation or club.
Are all the forum people here honest, cute and lovely? No, they are not. Some people are big liars!


That's awesome that you're off drugs!
I'm glad you're clean and sober!

I have nothing against Scientology, rather I have a huge issue with the Church Of Scientology and David Miscavige.

I live in central Florida and have many Scientologist friends. I have even read a few books by LRH. However, I am a Nyingmapa Tibetan Buddhist. But I recognize the parallels between Scientology and Buddhism, seeing as LRH spent a lot of time in Asia, learning from monks and what not...

Again, I'm happy for your sobriety, and that Scientology has helped you.

My only advice is: THINK FOR YOURSELF.

Also, You can get a lot of The Tech online FOR FREE

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leak ... nks-38829/

The Chairman of the Board and the IRS----

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/cont ... sruns.html

http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/veritas/newslant/

ALTERED TECH---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR6lvtRF ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHW-bKyN ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBWcaVXC ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7io2xBUl ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmr6W5N ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHOLLLtu ... r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMxDwpY ... r_embedded

JOIN THE FREEZONE & GET YOUR OWN E METER (you dont need the Church!)

http://internationalfreezone.net/

http://www.freezone.org/

http://www.clearingtech.net/
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Postby TransexualTransilvania » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:22 pm

Hmm...I was a heavy Scientology user for 20 years and cocaine saved my life.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:31 pm

TransexualTransilvania wrote:Hmm...I was a heavy Scientology user for 20 years and cocaine saved my life.


Awesome use of inversion. ;)
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby St Winter » Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:42 pm

Personally some scientology beliefs are whacko but every religion has crap only religious weirdos can believe. Like how can their not be mnetal disabilities.

I have Asperger Syndronme,Are You Calling Me A Sinning Liar?

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Postby Mean Feat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:26 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:From a purely theological perspective, one of the things I find curious about Scientology is that most modern belief systems can't wait to tell you the 'good news' about their revelation from the very beginning. It would be hard to imagine converts to Christianity, Islam, or Buddhism (taking just three examples) converting without knowing from the beginning that Jesus is the Son of God who died for our sins / Allah is the One True God and Mohammed [PBUH] is His Prophet / a negation of being and an end to suffering awaits those who achieve enlightenment; except for certain fringe groups, paying large sums of cash for the privilege of being told this is rarely a requirement.

Scientology, however, demands that you spend years in the organisation and spend vast sums of cash before you can achieve the inner rank of Operating Thetan and discover the 'revealed truths'. I find that .... odd.

But perhaps I'm being cynical.


I'm not sure if there is a psychological term for it, but people do value things they had to pay for, more than the same thing they got for free.
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Postby Mean Feat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:35 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:Wow, is this the return of Valentin 'Valentinasia' Selezynov? Do we finally geto to hear the full theory of how the moon was used to seed life on earth?


The possibility of puppetry has been considered, but no, Valentasia isn't the prime suspect. Pity too. He was delightfully entertaining. :p


Both openly declared that they had bad coke habits before getting into Scientology.
The slightly stilted English is like Val's (ie, acceptable but sometimes word order is like the grammar of French).

And I'm sure you've considered the homophone of American Wang Car ... Valentinasia also liked to tease US Americans.

Without any modly powers (ie, completely guessing) my cookie is on Hairless Kittens imitating Valentinasia.
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Mean Feat wrote:The Latham of the Liberals. Tony Abbott.

Tanya Plibersek Mon 22 Feb 2010 wrote:"Tony is the 'Mark Latham' of the Liberal Party.

She didn't get to explain why.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:42 am

Mean Feat wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:Wow, is this the return of Valentin 'Valentinasia' Selezynov? Do we finally geto to hear the full theory of how the moon was used to seed life on earth?


The possibility of puppetry has been considered, but no, Valentasia isn't the prime suspect. Pity too. He was delightfully entertaining. :p


Both openly declared that they had bad coke habits before getting into Scientology.
The slightly stilted English is like Val's (ie, acceptable but sometimes word order is like the grammar of French).

And I'm sure you've considered the homophone of American Wang Car ... Valentinasia also liked to tease US Americans.

Without any modly powers (ie, completely guessing) my cookie is on Hairless Kittens imitating Valentinasia.


Moot point. He's DoS for another issue. Btw, HK was my prime suspect. ;)

I'm gonna lock this.
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