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Postby Fin Dovah Junaar » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:25 am

Replevion wrote:
Fin Dovah Junaar wrote:I wonder what it would be like to walk into a transgender persons shoes for a day.

...Then again I think that exercise would be lost on someone like me.


Not bloody hard to dress as the opposite gender for a day, that's mostly all you'd need to do to at least feel most of the social backlash. Granted it wouldn't give you any perspective on the family rejection or medical care/issues pieces, among others.

Val Halla wrote:Damn well hope do. But idiots exist. And because of how anti queerphobia stuff is made, kids can take the piss. Hell, I was shown a anti homophobia video in PSHE, and it was fucking transphobic


I vaguely remember some kid being really insensitive to me last month, but luckily(?) I was so baked at the time I barely acknowledged he was there. If I'd have been sober I'd probably have said something indignant to him and his parents.


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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:25 am

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Jute wrote:Eh... sorry to hear that. At least they were seeing the problem of homophobia, so they tried to be tolerant of minorities? What exactly was terrible about the video?

They poked fun at transgender people

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Not bloody hard to dress as the opposite gender for a day, that's mostly all you'd need to do to at least feel most of the social backlash. Granted it wouldn't give you any perspective on the family rejection or medical care/issues pieces, among others.



I vaguely remember some kid being really insensitive to me last month, but luckily(?) I was so baked at the time I barely acknowledged he was there. If I'd have been sober I'd probably have said something indignant to him and his parents.

I ain't a drinker. I'm curious though whether or not I'll be able to do what I want to do after surgery.


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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:26 am

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Val Halla wrote:They poked fun at transgender people


I ain't a drinker. I'm curious though whether or not I'll be able to do what I want to do after surgery.


What do you want to do?

Look at my sig. I'm too awkward. :p
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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:28 am

Fin Dovah Junaar wrote:I wonder what it would be like to walk into a transgender persons shoes for a day.

...Then again I think that exercise would be lost on someone like me.

There are stories that can help make you understand it. Otherwise, if you're comfortable with being male, you could try imagining having a female body and everyone treating you like a girl and expecting you to act like one (to a certain degree, at least)
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:44 am

I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.
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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:44 am

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.

What happened?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:46 am

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.

You alright? I'm here. :3
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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:48 am

Val Halla wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.

You alright? I'm here. :3

Are you feeling better today?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:48 am

Jute wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.

What happened?


Val Halla wrote:
Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:I think my body decided it wanted me to hate it even more than I already do.

You alright? I'm here. :3


My body decided that this morning would be a great morning for my period to show up, and I am really not in the mood to deal with that today. Or really any day, but today I'm already really close to completely breaking.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:50 am

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Jute wrote:What happened?


Val Halla wrote:You alright? I'm here. :3


My body decided that this morning would be a great morning for my period to show up, and I am really not in the mood to deal with that today. Or really any day, but today I'm already really close to completely breaking.

Really sorry to hear that dude. I'll try see if I can get my uniform sent over in a few weeks, I finish school in 3 weeks. Here to help. :3
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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:52 am

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Jute wrote:What happened?


Val Halla wrote:You alright? I'm here. :3


My body decided that this morning would be a great morning for my period to show up, and I am really not in the mood to deal with that today. Or really any day, but today I'm already really close to completely breaking.
Aww, sorry to hear that. Keep going, it will pass in a few days. Only the toughest of guys can handle them, and I'm sure you're one of them :hug:

(with thanks to Tumblr for that word of encouragement)
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:22 am

@Val: Isara and Lydia are both really nice names. :)

Val Halla wrote:
Cyllea wrote:Another transgender person committed suicide... :(

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/04/tran ... elf-sorry/

How many Transgender people are going to commit suicide before people realize something has to be done?

People don't care. Hate to be a victim, but ultimately, we are. It's not just that people don't get it, it's that people are sadistic arseholes and know how sensitive we are, and pile the shit onto us.

Will society do something? Unless all the morons pull their heads out of their arses, no. Do I want things to change? I'd gladly give up my own exist if that's what it took for it to happen. I honestly don't know how I'm still alive. If I were religious, I'd say I've done something to anger my god. But I am, unlike many. If I could disappear and it meant that society would never have this issue, I would hesitate to do so.

Governments need to help too. The British government needs to help me, otherwise I won't live to see 20. Laws are changing, but I fear that if power is given to certain groups, it'll ho backwards.

Aw, hun. :hug: Things will get better soon. I promise. You just have to make it through high school and go off to university. Then you'll be the mistress of your own life.

And things will get better for trans people in general, too. For the first time, we're being given the spotlight, and people are starting to realise that we exist. Things are looking up. :)

Auremena wrote:So learned two valuable things yesterday;
Finally tried out my floral tube skirt in public and HELLO BUTT!
Also, 40\50something guys that are a bit buzzed and try to flirt with me still make me blush regardless. aka I pass with them.

Yay! :)

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:
Jute wrote:What happened?


Val Halla wrote:You alright? I'm here. :3


My body decided that this morning would be a great morning for my period to show up, and I am really not in the mood to deal with that today. Or really any day, but today I'm already really close to completely breaking.

Aw. :hug: That's gotta be tough. I hope it goes away soon.

In other news, I just had my first appointment with my new psychologist. I have to say, I feel a lot better now than I did before. It really does help to just tell someone everything. :)
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:27 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:@Val: Isara and Lydia are both really nice names. :)

Val Halla wrote:People don't care. Hate to be a victim, but ultimately, we are. It's not just that people don't get it, it's that people are sadistic arseholes and know how sensitive we are, and pile the shit onto us.

Will society do something? Unless all the morons pull their heads out of their arses, no. Do I want things to change? I'd gladly give up my own exist if that's what it took for it to happen. I honestly don't know how I'm still alive. If I were religious, I'd say I've done something to anger my god. But I am, unlike many. If I could disappear and it meant that society would never have this issue, I would hesitate to do so.

Governments need to help too. The British government needs to help me, otherwise I won't live to see 20. Laws are changing, but I fear that if power is given to certain groups, it'll ho backwards.

Aw, hun. :hug: Things will get better soon. I promise. You just have to make it through high school and go off to university. Then you'll be the mistress of your own life.

And things will get better for trans people in general, too. For the first time, we're being given the spotlight, and people are starting to realise that we exist. Things are looking up. :)

Auremena wrote:So learned two valuable things yesterday;
Finally tried out my floral tube skirt in public and HELLO BUTT!
Also, 40\50something guys that are a bit buzzed and try to flirt with me still make me blush regardless. aka I pass with them.

Yay! :)

Fabulous Rainicorns wrote:


My body decided that this morning would be a great morning for my period to show up, and I am really not in the mood to deal with that today. Or really any day, but today I'm already really close to completely breaking.

Aw. :hug: That's gotta be tough. I hope it goes away soon.

In other news, I just had my first appointment with my new psychologist. I have to say, I feel a lot better now than I did before. It really does help to just tell someone everything. :)

I also had Valarie suggested, because it's similar to my NS name and would make sense IRL. As for things starting to look up legally, there's a small issue. They're in the process of lowing the age, but with the rise of a certain party, I don't feel like I can hold out many hopes.

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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:42 am

I think Bruce Jenner is actually helping the cause a lot at the moment. Anyone have a good interview with that person?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Cyllea » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:50 am

Jute wrote:I think Bruce Jenner is actually helping the cause a lot at the moment. Anyone have a good interview with that person?

Bruce Jenner has really brought the issue of transitioning into a modern, mainstream light; unfortunately, much of the response is negative, including from my own 'family'.

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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:53 am

Cyllea wrote:
Jute wrote:I think Bruce Jenner is actually helping the cause a lot at the moment. Anyone have a good interview with that person?

Bruce Jenner has really brought the issue of transitioning into a modern, mainstream light; unfortunately, much of the response is negative, including from my own 'family'.

It will change, surely, over time. Stay optimistic. Are they saying things about Bruce as if they don't consider the former athlete a human, or is it more along the lines of pathologizing?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Cyllea » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:55 am

Jute wrote:
Cyllea wrote:Bruce Jenner has really brought the issue of transitioning into a modern, mainstream light; unfortunately, much of the response is negative, including from my own 'family'.

It will change, surely, over time. Stay optimistic. Are they saying things about Bruce as if they don't consider the former athlete a human, or is it more along the lines of pathologizing?


Things along the lines of "Its disgusting." and "It shouldn't be socially acceptable."
So I guess in between

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Postby Auremena » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:36 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Auremena wrote:So learned two valuable things yesterday;
Finally tried out my floral tube skirt in public and HELLO BUTT!
Also, 40\50something guys that are a bit buzzed and try to flirt with me still make me blush regardless. aka I pass with them.
Yay! :)
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:37 am

Auremena wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Yay! :)
High waisted is a win for slimming the waist and accentuating the hips.

You're gonna have to give me advise girl. :p
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Postby Auremena » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:51 am

Replevion wrote:
Auremena wrote:So learned two valuable things yesterday;
Finally tried out my floral tube skirt in public and HELLO BUTT!
Also, 40\50something guys that are a bit buzzed and try to flirt with me still make me blush regardless. aka I pass with them.


My hormone therapy seemed to inflate my butt like a balloon. Not complaining... 8)
I've always been glad that it had a good template.
Val Halla wrote:
Auremena wrote:So learned two valuable things yesterday;
Finally tried out my floral tube skirt in public and HELLO BUTT!
Also, 40\50something guys that are a bit buzzed and try to flirt with me still make me blush regardless. aka I pass with them.
Well, no offense Aure, but you're pretty hot. :blush:
Why would that be offensive :blink:
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Val Halla wrote:
Auremena wrote:High waisted is a win for slimming the waist and accentuating the hips.
You're gonna have to give me advise girl. :p
I tried, but you were all about the baggy as hell tee and loose fitting jeans.
Course you've got "the butt issue," so there's always shapewear to help, as well as of course the high waisted midi skirt.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:56 am

Auremena wrote:
Val Halla wrote:You're gonna have to give me advise girl. :p
I tried, but you were all about the baggy as hell tee and loose fitting jeans.
Course you've got "the butt issue," so there's always shapewear to help, as well as of course the high waisted midi skirt.

I didn't say that. I said I wear that because I don't have a fashion sense, and suggested you helped with that. :p

Auremena wrote:
Replevion wrote:
My hormone therapy seemed to inflate my butt like a balloon. Not complaining... 8)
I've always been glad that it had a good template.
Val Halla wrote:Well, no offense Aure, but you're pretty hot. :blush:
Why would that be offensive :blink:

I don't know. I guess some straight people don't like being called hot by someone of the same gender, or might just find it weird for somebody to say that. You are straight, right?
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Val Halla wrote:
Auremena wrote:I tried, but you were all about the baggy as hell tee and loose fitting jeans.
Course you've got "the butt issue," so there's always shapewear to help, as well as of course the high waisted midi skirt.
I didn't say that. I said I wear that because I don't have a fashion sense, and suggested you helped with that. :p
Auremena wrote:I've always been glad that it had a good template.Why would that be offensive :blink:
I don't know. I guess some straight people don't like being called hot by someone of the same gender, or might just find it weird for somebody to say that. You are straight, right?
Well you've got to tell me at least some things that you like, then we can go from there.

Women less so than men, it seems. I hear girls all the time telling eachother that they look hot or whatnot.
And yeah, for the most part. Like, I'd have sex with women, maybe date women, but not really have any sort of long term relationship with them. Friends excluded. Then again friend level and boyfriend level are separate.
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Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:05 pm

Auremena wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I didn't say that. I said I wear that because I don't have a fashion sense, and suggested you helped with that. :pI don't know. I guess some straight people don't like being called hot by someone of the same gender, or might just find it weird for somebody to say that. You are straight, right?
Well you've got to tell me at least some things that you like, then we can go from there.

Women less so than men, it seems. I hear girls all the time telling eachother that they look hot or whatnot.
And yeah, for the most part. Like, I'd have sex with women, maybe date women, but not really have any sort of long term relationship with them. Friends excluded. Then again friend level and boyfriend level are separate.

Well, I've no idea. You'd be best making that decision for me TBH. :p

And just remember that I'm going to be in Boston in a couple of years. Just something to bear in mind. :D
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Postby Jute » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:37 pm

Cyllea wrote:
Jute wrote:It will change, surely, over time. Stay optimistic. Are they saying things about Bruce as if they don't consider the former athlete a human, or is it more along the lines of pathologizing?


Things along the lines of "Its disgusting." and "It shouldn't be socially acceptable."
So I guess in between

Based on what my father thinks about homosexuality, I think he might think similar things. Do they give any reasons?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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