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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:55 am

Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.
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I'm always puzzled by the idea that transgenders will lead to the downfall of Western civilization. Transgenderism (?) is really only prevalent in a small portion of the population, and seems mostly fixed on doing what is necessary to ensure trans folks' mental health (e.g., not falling into clinical depression). Similarly, LGB doesn't seem to be any sort of real threat. By the time population reduction starts to become an issue, we should be hitting the early Transhuman (not related to transgender) era and basic life-extension technologies.

Honestly, of the right-wing arguments about the downfall of western civilization, foreign religions seem more credible. :P
But that is a topic for another thread.

Just a note: Transgenders isn't the right term for us, it sounds like we're test subjects or something. Trans people sounds more friendly. Try and use that instead of 'transgenders'.


For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:58 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:Just a note: Transgenders isn't the right term for us, it sounds like we're test subjects or something. Trans people sounds more friendly. Try and use that instead of 'transgenders'.


For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

So Marisa can into grammar.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:58 am

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Val Halla wrote:It will go to my stomach

HRT will eventually move it where you need it to go, Callie. You're 20% lighter than you should be.

20% isn't that much and HRT is far away
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:59 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:HRT will eventually move it where you need it to go, Callie. You're 20% lighter than you should be.

20% isn't that much and HRT is far away

20% is also about 20-25 pounds of mass. Keep it in mind the day you're on HRT that you need to add mass to your frame for better breasts and hips.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:09 am

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The Serbian Empire wrote:If you can't stop eating then that might reduce the weight issues a bit.

It will go to my stomach

Oh, don't give me that. I used to think that if I ate, I would get a belly, too. I didn't quite have an eating disorder, but I had huge body image issues, and it wouldn't have taken much to make me full-on anorexic. So I understand your line of thought, but it's bullshit.

Bottom line: Eating will not make you fat.

The Grey Wolf wrote:Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.

:hug:

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Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:Just a note: Transgenders isn't the right term for us, it sounds like we're test subjects or something. Trans people sounds more friendly. Try and use that instead of 'transgenders'.


For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

Well, technically nominalisation is a fairly common phenomenon in English, but I don't think it works well for most adjectives used to describe people, especially when referring to groups of people who have often been dehumanised.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:13 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Val Halla wrote:20% isn't that much and HRT is far away

20% is also about 20-25 pounds of mass. Keep it in mind the day you're on HRT that you need to add mass to your frame for better breasts and hips.

I can gain weight when it's close

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Val Halla wrote:It will go to my stomach

Oh, don't give me that. I used to think that if I ate, I would get a belly, too. I didn't quite have an eating disorder, but I had huge body image issues, and it wouldn't have taken much to make me full-on anorexic. So I understand your line of thought, but it's bullshit.

Bottom line: Eating will not make you fat.

The Grey Wolf wrote:Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.

:hug:

The Grey Wolf wrote:
For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

Well, technically nominalisation is a fairly common phenomenon in English, but I don't think it works well for most adjectives used to describe people, especially when referring to groups of people who have often been dehumanised.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:14 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:20% is also about 20-25 pounds of mass. Keep it in mind the day you're on HRT that you need to add mass to your frame for better breasts and hips.

I can gain weight when it's close

But the hazards of being underweight still exist in the here and now.
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Postby KirbyFluffle » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:15 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:Just a note: Transgenders isn't the right term for us, it sounds like we're test subjects or something. Trans people sounds more friendly. Try and use that instead of 'transgenders'.


For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

Restricted by the binary? In what way?
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:16 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I can gain weight when it's close

But the hazards of being underweight still exist in the here and now.

I've been impoverished and even more underweight than I am now. I'm fine.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:31 am

Everyone in the US should be watching the Human Rights Campaign dinner right now on CSPAN - LGBT issues are the big ones on the table.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:35 am

Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:Everyone in the US should be watching the Human Rights Campaign dinner right now on CSPAN - LGBT issues are the big ones on the table.

You know that the Human Rights Campaign has a lot of TERFs in their midst.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:39 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:Everyone in the US should be watching the Human Rights Campaign dinner right now on CSPAN - LGBT issues are the big ones on the table.

You know that the Human Rights Campaign has a lot of TERFs in their midst.

I dunno, Joe Biden(I'm calling him 'bro Biden from now on') has been pretty clear when he was advocating for trans folk.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:05 am

Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:You know that the Human Rights Campaign has a lot of TERFs in their midst.

I dunno, Joe Biden(I'm calling him 'bro Biden from now on') has been pretty clear when he was advocating for trans folk.

I don't trust the Human Rights Campaign one bit. Their history until fairly recently has been anti-transgender. I guess the TERFs might be like Elvis. Left the building.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:26 am

KirbyFluffle wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:So you think that transgender people are part of a conspiracy to destroy Western civilisation?

Positive.
Only reasonable option.
Every transgender person is conspiring to take down Western civilization.

You know, I was just going to shoplift a few packs of undies, maybe jaywalk a couple times, but now I kinda feel like an underachiever.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:31 am

KirbyFluffle wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:Ugh, today is one of those days I'm feeling restricted by the binary.


For some reason, "transgenders" has always sounded creepy and dehumanizing to me.

Besides the fact it sounds silly and is grammatically incorrect (people trying to pluralize an adjective).

Restricted by the binary? In what way?


I don't really see what in my sentence was confusing.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:33 am

Olthar wrote:
KirbyFluffle wrote:Positive.
Only reasonable option.
Every transgender person is conspiring to take down Western civilization.

You know, I was just going to shoplift a few packs of undies, maybe jaywalk a couple times, but now I kinda feel like an underachiever.

Jaywalk? Is that what Fabulous Rainicorns does on a daily basis?
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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:35 am

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Olthar wrote:You know, I was just going to shoplift a few packs of undies, maybe jaywalk a couple times, but now I kinda feel like an underachiever.

Jaywalk? Is that what Fabulous Rainicorns does on a daily basis?

It's a great way to protest and stick it to The Man. Screw your crosswalks! I'll cross the street wherever I want!
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:44 am

Olthar wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:Jaywalk? Is that what Fabulous Rainicorns does on a daily basis?

It's a great way to protest and stick it to The Man. Screw your crosswalks! I'll cross the street wherever I want!

Fuck the pole ice!
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:52 pm

Alyakia wrote:bad day party

Err.... What?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You may be sore for a day or two more, Vassy. Move those muscles! :p


Usually the aches are more general and have tailed off within a day or so.

This time the pain is centred roughly where my right pectoral meets my shoulder joint. And still kind of hurts now, on Sunday morning, when I was in the gym last on Thursday.


Were you doing upper body training?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:07 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Usually the aches are more general and have tailed off within a day or so.

This time the pain is centred roughly where my right pectoral meets my shoulder joint. And still kind of hurts now, on Sunday morning, when I was in the gym last on Thursday.


Were you doing upper body training?


I overdid it on the chest press machine.

Also, trying to pick a style, I guess.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Were you doing upper body training?


I overdid it on the chest press machine.

Also, trying to pick a style, I guess.


Sounds like maybe you pulled or strained a muscle. Take it easy for the next few days.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:50 pm

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We aren't?


Well, I'm already the Patriarchy's 007, might as well join the plot to destroy the West too.


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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:58 pm

Alyakia wrote:bad day party

There's no party like a bad day party because we all feel sad.
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