NationStates' Transgender Thread

[Dumb Ideologies]

I can't wait well. I think we know that...

I wouldn't trust any online dealers. They could be selling you sugar pills, harmful stuff, anything. And the private sector is extortionate. Waiting is all you can do. Be strong, it'll be worth it in the end.

I self-medded. With a bit of research you can get a pretty clear idea of who's legit.

[Dyrrachium]

I wouldn't trust any online dealers. They could be selling you sugar pills, harmful stuff, anything. And the private sector is extortionate. Waiting is all you can do. Be strong, it'll be worth it in the end.

I self-medded. With a bit of research you can get a pretty clear idea of who's legit.

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

[Val Halla]

I self-medded. With a bit of research you can get a pretty clear idea of who's legit.

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

I don't think you realize just how long it takes...

[Dumb Ideologies]

I self-medded. With a bit of research you can get a pretty clear idea of who's legit.

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

I self-medded and then got hormones on the NHS when they finally let me do so. I had a crappy tiny dose because that was all I could afford, but it tided me over.

[Dyrrachium]

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

I don't think you realize just how long it takes...

I know full well how long it takes, many many years, less if you're lucky.

[Val Halla]

I don't think you realize just how long it takes...

I know full well how long it takes, many many years, less if you're lucky.

It takes a very significant portion of my life, even if they let me

[Dyrrachium]

I know full well how long it takes, many many years, less if you're lucky.

It takes a very significant portion of my life, even if they let me

prime of your life

[Val Halla]

It takes a very significant portion of my life, even if they let me

prime of your life

not for me

[Dyrrachium]

prime of your life

not for me

What I'm saying is that it takes the prime of your life.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

If I ever have kids, I'm not going to gender them, until they can express that they are a given gender (or genderless) to me.

Then a quick question, what would you call your children? A gender neutral pronoun, such as they or it; or by their name, should you have already planned their name in advance.

[Val Halla]

not for me

What I'm saying is that it takes the prime of your life.

If it ever does happen

[Vassenor]

And all this talk about the correlation between ASDs and everything is making me feel like I got it all wrong.

[Dyrrachium]

What I'm saying is that it takes the prime of your life.

If it ever does happen

Regardless of what happens, you'll get somewhere.

[Val Halla]

If it ever does happen

Regardless of what happens, you'll get somewhere.

But chances are, not a good place...

[Zottistan]

I can't wait well. I think we know that...

I wouldn't trust any online dealers. They could be selling you sugar pills, harmful stuff, anything. And the private sector is extortionate. Waiting is all you can do. Be strong, it'll be worth it in the end.

Online dealers aren't as bad as they're hyped up to be. No experience with hormones, but I've heard for recreational drugs they're much better than buying off the street. I'd imagine the same principles apply.

Not advocating it, btw.

[Nature-Spirits]

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

I self-medded and then got hormones on the NHS when they finally let me do so. I had a crappy tiny dose because that was all I could afford, but it tided me over.

A small dose is really all I want, personally. I don't want the same hormone levels as a cis woman.

[Nature-Spirits]

So, my mom noticed that I've been shaving my legs again, and started telling me not to do it. Again. She claims that if she could do it all over again, she wouldn't, because according to her, the hair grows in darker (though it seems to me that exposure to sunlight would lighten it) and coarser (this is demonstrably false; it just looks that way because the hairs have a flat tip due to being cut, and I'm pretty sure that that effect wouldn't be permanent). She also said that "the Europeans don't shave their legs" -- which in many cases is true, but I don't see why that means I shouldn't. Shouldn't I do what makes me most comfortable? The fact is, my legs -- while not super hairy -- are still pretty hairy, and that means that I don't like showing them off. I rarely wear shorts, and when I wear a skirt, I almost always wear tights underneath, because I feel uncomfortable showing off my bare legs when they're hairy.

Plus, I really like the feel of hairless skin.

[Dyrrachium]

So, my mom noticed that I've been shaving my legs again, and started telling me not to do it. Again. She claims that if she could do it all over again, she wouldn't, because according to her, the hair grows in darker (though it seems to me that exposure to sunlight would lighten it) and coarser (this is demonstrably false; it just looks that way because the hairs have a flat tip due to being cut, and I'm pretty sure that that effect wouldn't be permanent). She also said that "the Europeans don't shave their legs" -- which in many cases is true, but I don't see why that means I shouldn't. Shouldn't I do what makes me most comfortable? The fact is, my legs -- while not super hairy -- are still pretty hairy, and that means that I don't like showing them off. I rarely wear shorts, and when I wear a skirt, I almost always wear tights underneath, because I feel uncomfortable showing off my bare legs when they're hairy.

Plus, I really like the feel of hairless skin.

I like the feeling of shaved legs too, but got shamed by my class for doing so. Do what you want.

[Val Halla]

So, my mom noticed that I've been shaving my legs again, and started telling me not to do it. Again. She claims that if she could do it all over again, she wouldn't, because according to her, the hair grows in darker (though it seems to me that exposure to sunlight would lighten it) and coarser (this is demonstrably false; it just looks that way because the hairs have a flat tip due to being cut, and I'm pretty sure that that effect wouldn't be permanent). She also said that "the Europeans don't shave their legs" -- which in many cases is true, but I don't see why that means I shouldn't. Shouldn't I do what makes me most comfortable? The fact is, my legs -- while not super hairy -- are still pretty hairy, and that means that I don't like showing them off. I rarely wear shorts, and when I wear a skirt, I almost always wear tights underneath, because I feel uncomfortable showing off my bare legs when they're hairy.

Plus, I really like the feel of hairless skin.

I can't...

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

More of a hassle with legal work though right? In the UK if you do it with the NHS all the legal paper work and various other things get done at the same time.

I self-medded and then got hormones on the NHS when they finally let me do so. I had a crappy tiny dose because that was all I could afford, but it tided me over.

I want to self med since HRT isn't free here either way, not sure how to do it though and worried it could hurt me.

[Grenartia]

If I ever have kids, I'm not going to gender them, until they can express that they are a given gender (or genderless) to me.

Then a quick question, what would you call your children? A gender neutral pronoun, such as they or it; or by their name, should you have already planned their name in advance.

They or their name. Which will also be as gender neutral as possible (I'm thinking Alex).

[Wulfenia]

So, my mom noticed that I've been shaving my legs again, and started telling me not to do it. Again. She claims that if she could do it all over again, she wouldn't, because according to her, the hair grows in darker (though it seems to me that exposure to sunlight would lighten it) and coarser (this is demonstrably false; it just looks that way because the hairs have a flat tip due to being cut, and I'm pretty sure that that effect wouldn't be permanent). She also said that "the Europeans don't shave their legs" -- which in many cases is true, but I don't see why that means I shouldn't. Shouldn't I do what makes me most comfortable? The fact is, my legs -- while not super hairy -- are still pretty hairy, and that means that I don't like showing them off. I rarely wear shorts, and when I wear a skirt, I almost always wear tights underneath, because I feel uncomfortable showing off my bare legs when they're hairy.

Plus, I really like the feel of hairless skin.

I plan on waxing the back of my hips and legs, since it feels like I have to contort myself to shave there.

No idea why she would say that Europeans don't shave their legs. Even if true, why does it have any bearing on what you do?

[The Serbian Empire]

A lot of people would be pretty much left confused. Gender assignment upon birth is pretty much the common. To get rid of it would be really hard in by itself, and once it's gone, a lot of people would be confused. "What do we refer our baby by now?" is probably going to be a question that's going to come up to a lot of people.

My philosophy: refer to someone born with the male sex as "he" and the female sex as "she." if they grow older and tell me they're actually a he, she, or neither, I'll refer to them as that. I can't see what's hard about it.

Yeah, I agree... Then you have the jarring ones like myself who hid for years pretending to be hypermasculine trying to hide the reality. It failed to work... I think the best options I would utilize is a gendered name with a unisex middle.

So, my mom noticed that I've been shaving my legs again, and started telling me not to do it. Again. She claims that if she could do it all over again, she wouldn't, because according to her, the hair grows in darker (though it seems to me that exposure to sunlight would lighten it) and coarser (this is demonstrably false; it just looks that way because the hairs have a flat tip due to being cut, and I'm pretty sure that that effect wouldn't be permanent). She also said that "the Europeans don't shave their legs" -- which in many cases is true, but I don't see why that means I shouldn't. Shouldn't I do what makes me most comfortable? The fact is, my legs -- while not super hairy -- are still pretty hairy, and that means that I don't like showing them off. I rarely wear shorts, and when I wear a skirt, I almost always wear tights underneath, because I feel uncomfortable showing off my bare legs when they're hairy.

Plus, I really like the feel of hairless skin.

This sounds like me... right down to the reason I shave my legs. That hairless skin feeling is divine.

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

That hairless skin feeling is divine.

Oh hell yes.


How hurtful is it to misgender someone? I know this varies depending on whom you ask, but the thought came to me that making a trans woman/man go into a martial arts tournament divided by gender as the gender they used to be(or anything which is separated by gender) could be a very unhappy experience. It's not only not affirming their lifestyle choice, but it's very hard to argue that the purpose of that is to do anything other than be insulting.

[Hetalia Dakota 2 II]

That hairless skin feeling is divine.

Oh hell yes.


How hurtful is it to misgender someone? I know this varies depending on whom you ask, but the thought came to me that making a trans woman/man go into a martial arts tournament divided by gender as the gender they used to be(or anything which is separated by gender) could be a very unhappy experience. It's not only not affirming their lifestyle choice, but it's very hard to argue that the purpose of that is to do anything other than be insulting.

The statement "gender they used to be" is incorrect