Mitt Romney announces potential 2016 presidential run

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

How are gun control, corporatism and perpetual war sane?

Since when are Christie and McCain corporatists? I'm not a fan of either, but to say that they're corporatists is a bit of a stretch.

They have long records in support of corporate welfare. Any basic Google search of Christie's record as Governor shows this. Although I must say that it's difficult to be a functioning governor without granting some special favours to certain businesses.

And, while both are neo-cons, to say that they support perpetual war is nothing but fearmongering. Sure, neo-conservatism is ridiculous and reckless, but to call them war-mongerers is dishonest.

Well, Christie really hasn't talked enough about this issue for anyone to be sure on his views, but you can't say that McCain isn't a war-monger. I mean, seriously, every time there's some conflict anywhere in the globe McCain's universal solution is "bomb, invade, liberate". That's almost literally true.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Since when are Christie and McCain corporatists? I'm not a fan of either, but to say that they're corporatists is a bit of a stretch.

They have long records in support of corporate welfare. Any basic Google search of Christie's record as Governor shows this. Although I must say that it's difficult to be a functioning governor without granting some special favours to certain businesses.

And, while both are neo-cons, to say that they support perpetual war is nothing but fearmongering. Sure, neo-conservatism is ridiculous and reckless, but to call them war-mongerers is dishonest.

Well, Christie really hasn't talked enough about this issue for anyone to be sure on his views, but you can't say that McCain isn't a war-monger. I mean, seriously, every time there's some conflict anywhere in the globe McCain's universal solution is "bomb, invade, liberate". That's almost literally true.

While I'm definitely against corporate welfare, I think it's a bit silly to assume that if one supports corporate welfare, they support corporatism.

As for McCain, I suppose our definitions of neo conservative and warmonger vary. *shrugs*

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Full support if he runs.

I've seen his progression and what he has put in to make a difference for our country. I've never been a big supporter but I admire his persistence and his running again would prove that he really does want it and cares enough about our country to try it again.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

I was being sarcastic. Men like him will keep the Republican Party in mainstream obscurity for years. His record as Governor is atrocious and totally contradictory to all of his presidential policies. We don't need another Bushite in the White House. And anyway, he's unelectable. He couldn't beat McCain, he couldn't beat Obama, and he won't beat Hillary.

Rand Paul is the only sane, non-warmongering, non-bigoted leading member of the GOP. People who care about the party's long term survival - and America's future, as well - should vote for him instead.

I would very much prefer to see Johnson (if the libs disavowed hard currency) or Gravel win, but that's not happening.

I like Johnson, but I find it ironic that the same guy who proposed sending US troops to go after Kony is questioning Rand Paul's libertarian credentials. Gravel was never a political player and has very little name recognition.

[Democratic Koyro]

They should just abolish the Democratic Party.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

They should just abolish the Democratic Party.

Nah, I like my democracy, thanks.

[Lerodan Chinamerica]

They have long records in support of corporate welfare. Any basic Google search of Christie's record as Governor shows this. Although I must say that it's difficult to be a functioning governor without granting some special favours to certain businesses.


Well, Christie really hasn't talked enough about this issue for anyone to be sure on his views, but you can't say that McCain isn't a war-monger. I mean, seriously, every time there's some conflict anywhere in the globe McCain's universal solution is "bomb, invade, liberate". That's almost literally true.

While I'm definitely against corporate welfare, I think it's a bit silly to assume that if one supports corporate welfare, they support corporatism.

I use the term corporatism not as in fascist corporatism, but the fusion of political and corporate power in the United States which has been on the rise since the Bush Administration.

As for McCain, I suppose our definitions of neo conservative and warmonger vary. *shrugs*

I'm more of a pragmatist on the issue of foreign policy, and I definitely see the case for humanitarian intervention... But McCain is just silly. War is not the solution to every single problem.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Does anyone have legitimate concerns with Romney?

Please leave out the political dogma and stick to policy matters, if you can. i. e. None of the "rich" propaganda and off-handed comments that every politician makes.

[Nord Amour]

Does anyone have legitimate concerns with Romney?

Please leave out the political dogma and stick to policy matters, if you can. i. e. None of the "rich" propaganda and off-handed comments that every politician makes.

He is a flip-flopper, he has no policies.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Does anyone have legitimate concerns with Romney?

Please leave out the political dogma and stick to policy matters, if you can. i. e. None of the "rich" propaganda and off-handed comments that every politician makes.

Yes. His socially conservative policies are pretty terrible, as are a large chunk of his economic policies. I'm against the idea of privatizing social security, and cutting taxes on the very wealthy. I'm also opposed to his foreign policy, which is far too interventionist. However, I do find it rather unfair when people call him "elitist" or "a moneybags." People should critique his politics, not his personal life.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Does anyone have legitimate concerns with Romney?

Please leave out the political dogma and stick to policy matters, if you can. i. e. None of the "rich" propaganda and off-handed comments that every politician makes.

Yes. His socially conservative policies are pretty terrible, as are a large chunk of his economic policies. I'm against the idea of privatizing social security, and cutting taxes on the very wealthy. I'm also opposed to his foreign policy, which is far too interventionist. However, I do find it rather unfair when people call him "elitist" or "a moneybags." People should critique his politics, not his personal life.

I don't recall his social conservative policies too much. As I understand it, it's the typical party line on those issues. I can't really blame him on that if he actually wants to win the nomination. As for economic policies, I firmly disagree. I would argue he does have a firm grip on the economic situation, although you make a good point that specific aspects aren't the best approach, such as cutting taxes on the ultra wealthy. But you know, I'm not completely familiar with everything he has done or stands for, so I'd have to be refreshed come election time, but out of the candidates I have to choose from in the Republican primaries, he could be excellent.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Yes. His socially conservative policies are pretty terrible, as are a large chunk of his economic policies. I'm against the idea of privatizing social security, and cutting taxes on the very wealthy. I'm also opposed to his foreign policy, which is far too interventionist. However, I do find it rather unfair when people call him "elitist" or "a moneybags." People should critique his politics, not his personal life.

I don't recall his social conservative policies too much. As I understand it, it's the typical party line on those issues. I can't really blame him on that if he actually wants to win the nomination. As for economic policies, I firmly disagree. I would argue he does have a firm grip on the economic situation, although you make a good point that specific aspects aren't the best approach, such as cutting taxes on the ultra wealthy. But you know, I'm not completely familiar with everything he has done or stands for, so I'd have to be refreshed come election time, but out of the candidates I have to choose from in the Republican primaries, he could be excellent.

Well, the GOP won't change unless party members decide to become more socially tolerant on their own accord. If he actually wants to get any level of support, he should grow some balls, and stop opposing same sex marriage, denying climate change, denying science, denying the benefits of immigration and all of that. And, some of his economic points are smart. He advocates cutting our terrible uncompetitive corporate tax, free trade, NAFTA, amongst other things. But, unlike in many other countries, our income tax on the wealthy is one of the lowest in the OECD. I see no point in lowering it. Now, if this were the UK, or Germany, I would see the need for lowering the tax.

[Laerod]

Does anyone have legitimate concerns with Romney?

Please leave out the political dogma and stick to policy matters, if you can. i. e. None of the "rich" propaganda and off-handed comments that every politician makes.

He's a dipshit that has shown time and time again that he lacks empathy or understanding for working class Americans. He's extremely opportunistic and unreliable and refused to publish his tax records. His foreign policy was shit and banked very heavily on being a dick. Lastly, his unwillingness to write a concession speech beforehand calls his ability to plan ahead into question. What kind of an idiot is so goddamn sure of themselves that they don't prepare for a very likely outcome? Mind you, Obama had a concession speech ready.

[Southern Hampshire]

They should just abolish the Democratic Party.

That is like the best idea ever, man.

Haven't seen a sane Democrat since Wilson. That blackhole of randomly elected people really need a shake up.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

They should just abolish the Democratic Party.

That is like the best idea ever, man.

Haven't seen a sane Democrat since Wilson. That blackhole of randomly elected people really need a shake up.

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

[MERIZoC]

Binders full of 47%ers?

Anyway, should be interesting.

[MERIZoC]

That is like the best idea ever, man.

Haven't seen a sane Democrat since Wilson. That blackhole of randomly elected people really need a shake up.

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

AQ'd.

[Southern Hampshire]

That is like the best idea ever, man.

Haven't seen a sane Democrat since Wilson. That blackhole of randomly elected people really need a shake up.

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

Abolishing a political party goes against the Constitution of the United States of America, and the values of freedom, democracy, and civil liberties that this nation was founded upon. To go against those values is truly un-American.

[Laerod]

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

But you're not even remotely qualified to comment on that, not being American.

[Stormwind-City]

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

...what?!

[Shilya]

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

Please do tell me how you reached the conclusion that the Democrats are less american than the Communist Party USA.

[Stormwind-City]

Modern democrats are un-American.

Love all the other parties though.

Please do tell me how you reached the conclusion that the Democrats are less american than the Communist Party USA.

Democrats r comoonist.

[Constaniana]

Don't do it, Mitt. Relax at home, for crying out loud. Go fishing with the grandkids or something.

That is like the best idea ever, man.

Haven't seen a sane Democrat since Wilson. That blackhole of randomly elected people really need a shake up.

Your sig says you support America. Clearly you don't, you may need to edit your sig.

While he's at it, he could either take out the anti elitism or anti North U.K bits.

[MERIZoC]

Don't do it, Mitt. Relax at home, for crying out loud. Go fishing with the grandkids or something.

Go play with them at outdoor open-space areas.