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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 am

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Empire of Vlissingen wrote:Not having that horrible last name.

So you dislike Bush but you are a fervent fan of Reagan?

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Postby Laerod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 am

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Laerod wrote:Worse, actually. No party has done as badly in second term midterms as the Republicans did this time around in a long time. Mind you, Republican superiority in the most recent election is owed to four things: a massively gerrymandered House of Representatives that makes them seem more popular than they are, senate races in states usually favorable to the Republicans, midterm turnout greatly favoring their chances, and the unpopularity of President Obama. Only one of those will still be valid come next election (specifically the gerrymandering). Worse, with everything going in their favor, the Republicans failed to take the senate seat up for election in Virginia. In fact, as a national party, the GOP did pretty badly in a good deal of states. Add all of those states' and Virginia's electoral votes together and you have 270 (which is what is required for to win the Presidency).

This next election is likely going to be the Democrats' to lose, not the Republicans' to win. The midterms, if you solely go by results and ignore the underlying reasons for why they ended up being what they are, gloss over the uphill battle Republicans are going to face.


We're talking about USA? Republicans are favourites to win next elections. How are Republicans doing bad in midterms? Are you confusing Democrats and Republicans? GOP actually won in 2/3 states.

I'm going to be generous and assume you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I'll even repeat the most important part that should get you thinking:
Laerod wrote:The midterms, if you solely go by results and ignore the underlying reasons for why they ended up being what they are, gloss over the uphill battle Republicans are going to face.

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Oh dear, here we go again...
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Postby Teemant » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:15 am

Laerod wrote:
Teemant wrote:
We're talking about USA? Republicans are favourites to win next elections. How are Republicans doing bad in midterms? Are you confusing Democrats and Republicans? GOP actually won in 2/3 states.

I'm going to be generous and assume you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I'll even repeat the most important part that should get you thinking:
Laerod wrote:The midterms, if you solely go by results and ignore the underlying reasons for why they ended up being what they are, gloss over the uphill battle Republicans are going to face.


I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:17 am

Teemant wrote:
Laerod wrote:I'm going to be generous and assume you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I'll even repeat the most important part that should get you thinking:


I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.

Obama should try to make a law to abolish term limits.
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Postby Nervium » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:18 am

I hope he flip-flops even more.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:19 am

Teemant wrote:
Laerod wrote:I'm going to be generous and assume you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I'll even repeat the most important part that should get you thinking:


I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.

Better known than Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden? I also think you're putting way too much weight on name recognition here.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:57 am

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European Socialist Republic wrote:Are you?


Yes. Romney can learn for a previous run and do things better + money isn't an issue. And he didn't lose by a big margin to Obama.

money is always an issue.

in order to overcome the natural democratic demographic advantage the republicans need to run a charismatic candidate. mitt has no personality.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:04 am

Teemant wrote:
Laerod wrote:I'm going to be generous and assume you didn't bother reading what I wrote. I'll even repeat the most important part that should get you thinking:


I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.


well known names is meaningless. besides when it comes to the general public the well known names are bush, Romney, Clinton and biden.

the democrats have the benefit of all being on the same page. there isn't all that much variety in democratic policies. and they are all policies that the public likes.

the republicans have the detriment of having too many nutz who will run and get enough attention from the voters to screw over the eventual nominee by poisoning the well. remember how rick perry got slammed for suggesting that it is heartless to be against "dreamers"?
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:07 am

I hope Bush wins.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:08 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:
Teemant wrote:
I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.

Obama should try to make a law to abolish term limits.


Because fuck democracy, right?

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Postby Laerod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:13 am

Calimera II wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:Obama should try to make a law to abolish term limits.


Because fuck democracy, right?

You do realize abolishing term limits wouldn't destroy democracy, right? He'd still have to face elections...

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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:14 am

Romney hasn't done anything in the last three years, to better qualify him to be President than the last time he ran.

I'd rather vote for John McCain.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:20 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:
Teemant wrote:
I red what you said. And let's see potential canditates. Republicans have better canditate pool than Democrats have. More well known names.

Obama should try to make a law to abolish term limits.


Not even Congress can make such a law. Term limits for the Presidency are dictated by the 22nd Amendment.

Presidents can serve more than eight years though. Just be elected Vice-President, secceed to the office less than two years into the end of it, run and run again. Get nearly ten years as President that way.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:20 am

Laerod wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Because fuck democracy, right?

You do realize abolishing term limits wouldn't destroy democracy, right? He'd still have to face elections...

If anything, term limits are anti-democratic.

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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Laerod wrote:You do realize abolishing term limits wouldn't destroy democracy, right? He'd still have to face elections...

If anything, term limits are anti-democratic.


Term limits are stupid, but they're constitutional!
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:22 am

Ifreann wrote:
Laerod wrote:You do realize abolishing term limits wouldn't destroy democracy, right? He'd still have to face elections...

If anything, term limits are anti-democratic.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:23 am

Ailiailia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If anything, term limits are anti-democratic.


Term limits are stupid, but they're constitutional!

Indeed. Though people keep telling me that Obama is already violating the constitution left and right, so maybe that doesn't matter. Hail Obama, God-Emperor of Humanity!

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:24 am

ooooo I was just watching 'up with steve kornacki"

jeb bush is making a huge move to grab all the early money (which is what gave his brother an unsurmoutable lead in '00). if Romney wants to run he needs to do the same thing and make it "the battle of the bucks" for the first half of this year. if Romney cant get that money (bush is trying for $100million in 3 months) then his republican constituency has abandoned him for bush and he will have no chance at the nomination (since he isn't popular with the nutty base).
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:26 am

Ashmoria wrote:ooooo I was just watching 'up with steve kornacki"

jeb bush is making a huge move to grab all the early money (which is what gave his brother an unsurmoutable lead in '00). if Romney wants to run he needs to do the same thing and make it "the battle of the bucks" for the first half of this year. if Romney cant get that money (bush is trying for $100million in 3 months) then his republican constituency has abandoned him for bush and he will have no chance at the nomination (since he isn't popular with the nutty base).

Bush/Romney 2016.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:29 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:ooooo I was just watching 'up with steve kornacki"

jeb bush is making a huge move to grab all the early money (which is what gave his brother an unsurmoutable lead in '00). if Romney wants to run he needs to do the same thing and make it "the battle of the bucks" for the first half of this year. if Romney cant get that money (bush is trying for $100million in 3 months) then his republican constituency has abandoned him for bush and he will have no chance at the nomination (since he isn't popular with the nutty base).

Bush/Romney 2016.

or Romney/bush

theres the rub, eh?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:31 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Bush/Romney 2016.

or Romney/bush

theres the rub, eh?

There's only one way to decide this. Thunderdome.

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Postby Laerod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:31 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Bush/Romney 2016.

or Romney/bush

theres the rub, eh?

Bromoney.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:or Romney/bush

theres the rub, eh?

There's only one way to decide this. Thunderdome.

oh mitt could take jeb no problem. even if he is 6 years older he is in much better shape.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:49 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:There's only one way to decide this. Thunderdome.

oh mitt could take jeb no problem. even if he is 6 years older he is in much better shape.

Thanks for the tip, I'll call my bookie now.

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