Mitt Romney announces potential 2016 presidential run

[Draica]

Alrighty, let's keep electing Senators and career politicians who don't give a damn about America. Ben Carson is a common sense guy, he has amazing credibility and was the first nerusurgeon to seperate two twins conjoined at birth.

He can help America out greatly, esp. the black community.

How would he specifically help the black community?

The black community is plagued is negative role models and charlatans like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and disgruntled young black youth take this 'inspiriation' and do..things with it. Perhaps a positive role model would help.

[Draica]

Oh dear. I don't think my party can survive another Romney, we need a Ben Carson or a Rand Paul, not some flip-flopping robot.

Okay, remember how Joe Biden had to spend decades in the political wilderness because he got caught lifting some passages from other politicians' speeches for his own oratory?

Ben Carson didn't just plagiarize entire passages for his book, but plagiarized passages for a book that included a passage in which he talked about having plagiarized works for a paper at his university, and how he should have known it was wrong despite never having heard of the term (which brings up an entirely different set of issues, but we'll leave that for now).

How long do you think that he should be knocked out of contention for that?

Ah liberals and their fantasies. You just look at your liberal websites and spout your nonsense without looking at the full story. According to multiple reports including one at CNN The very author he is said to have plagarized is rushing to his defense.

Federer, though, told CNN in an email that he'd given Carson permission to use his material -- and he even read and signed off on the final product.

He said he met Carson while the two served on a university board, and handed him copies of his books during a shuttle ride on campus.

"I told him that I hoped he would find them interesting and that he had full permission to use any of the material in the books as he liked," Federer said.

"One of the books I gave him was specifically designed to be quoted," he said, noting that its subtitle specifically says that the material is for use in speeches, papers, debates, essays and articles, including those by elected officials.

He then listed 16 acknowledgments and citations of his work in Carson's book, saying that "it is obvious that Dr. Ben Carson has made demonstrable effort to make proper attribution. Indeed, his overt acknowledgments have resulted in numerous individuals contacting me to purchase the book."

If the author isn't angry, why are you? Liberals are literally grasping at straws here because you guys are scared of Ben Carson.

[Kelinfort]

How would he specifically help the black community?

The black community is plagued is negative role models and charlatans like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and disgruntled young black youth take this 'inspiriation' and do..things with it. Perhaps a positive role model would help.

And they are negative...why? Not conservative enough or are they "moochers"?

[Draica]

The black community is plagued is negative role models and charlatans like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and disgruntled young black youth take this 'inspiriation' and do..things with it. Perhaps a positive role model would help.

And they are negative...why? Not conservative enough or are they "moochers"?

Al Sharpton..My my, well I'l let this speak for itself. Here's the positive influence, Al Sharpton

[Kelinfort]

And they are negative...why? Not conservative enough or are they "moochers"?

Al Sharpton..My my, well I'l let this speak for itself. Here's the positive influence, Al Sharpton

And you have proof these are not fabricated how?

And why Jesse Jackson?

[Paledonn]

Thank god.

[Draica]

Al Sharpton..My my, well I'l let this speak for itself. Here's the positive influence, Al Sharpton

And you have proof these are not fabricated how?

And why Jesse Jackson?

Liberal tactic: Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny.

Al Sharpton himself tried to defend himself against these comments, can be found here

And just if that source is not good enough for you, I'l get the video itself I doubt he would defend himself against comments that were fabricated.

So, what do you have to say about elder statesmen, Al Sharpton?

White folks was [sic] in caves while we were building empires…. We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and those Greek homos ever got around to it.

Speech at Kean College (1994), transcribed in The Forward (December 1995), as quoted in Foolish Words : The Most Stupid Words Ever Spoken (2003) by Laura Ward, p. 192.

Jason Mattera, from the Daily Surge, caught up with Al as he headed into the Washington Correspondent’s Dinner and confronted him on this topic. After all, Al Sharpton directly contributed to the death of 8 individuals in the Harlem Massacre by causing a man to burn down Freddy’s Fashion Mart, whose owner, Fred Harari, Sharpton referred to as a “white interloper” simply because he wanted to expand his business to Harlem. He has used the terms “Greek homos” and “crackas”. Sharpton even referred to former New York Mayor David Dinkins many, many times as a n****r.

Sharpton is responsible for increased violence during the Crown Heights riots when he shamelessly attacked the Jewish community by saying, “If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house!”

Lets also not forget the lives of 6 men, including police officers and an attorney, being ruined with the false rape accusations of Tawana Brawley and the season and careers of the Duke Lacrosse Team and their coach being left in shambles after a similar false rape accusations. The facts didn’t matter to Sharpton. He saw white men and dollar signs, so he stood up at the microphone and demanded ‘justice.’

As Mattera confronts Sharpton, of course Al tries to spin it back in Mattera’s face accusing him of lying and half-truths. However, Al does, whether by mistake or not, defend at least one of his past racist rants with the rationale of ‘it was just about one Jew.’

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Okay, remember how Joe Biden had to spend decades in the political wilderness because he got caught lifting some passages from other politicians' speeches for his own oratory?

Ben Carson didn't just plagiarize entire passages for his book, but plagiarized passages for a book that included a passage in which he talked about having plagiarized works for a paper at his university, and how he should have known it was wrong despite never having heard of the term (which brings up an entirely different set of issues, but we'll leave that for now).

How long do you think that he should be knocked out of contention for that?

Ah liberals and their fantasies. You just look at your liberal websites and spout your nonsense without looking at the full story. According to multiple reports including one at CNN The very author he is said to have plagarized is rushing to his defense.

Federer, though, told CNN in an email that he'd given Carson permission to use his material -- and he even read and signed off on the final product.

He said he met Carson while the two served on a university board, and handed him copies of his books during a shuttle ride on campus.

"I told him that I hoped he would find them interesting and that he had full permission to use any of the material in the books as he liked," Federer said.

"One of the books I gave him was specifically designed to be quoted," he said, noting that its subtitle specifically says that the material is for use in speeches, papers, debates, essays and articles, including those by elected officials.

He then listed 16 acknowledgments and citations of his work in Carson's book, saying that "it is obvious that Dr. Ben Carson has made demonstrable effort to make proper attribution. Indeed, his overt acknowledgments have resulted in numerous individuals contacting me to purchase the book."

If the author isn't angry, why are you? Liberals are literally grasping at straws here because you guys are scared of Ben Carson.

Because regardless of the author's feelings, you're supposed to provide sources for your passages, and it's unethical to pass of the writings of another as your own without any sort of credit.

[Dinake]

Not again. Even the GOP can't be stupid enough to give him another shot.

[Draica]

Ah liberals and their fantasies. You just look at your liberal websites and spout your nonsense without looking at the full story. According to multiple reports including one at CNN The very author he is said to have plagarized is rushing to his defense.



If the author isn't angry, why are you? Liberals are literally grasping at straws here because you guys are scared of Ben Carson.

Because regardless of the author's feelings, you're supposed to provide sources for your passages, and it's unethical to pass of the writings of another as your own without any sort of credit.

If the author is fine with it, there's no reason to be up in arms about it. And don't talk to me about ethics, what Clinton did was unethical but he got a pass. So, don't talk to me about ethics, the author's fine with it, he apologized and is revising.

Don't nail Carson to the stake for something he's apologized for and, in all honesty, IS MINOR.

[Geilinor]

People still distrust Romney, this won't work out.

[Geilinor]

Because regardless of the author's feelings, you're supposed to provide sources for your passages, and it's unethical to pass of the writings of another as your own without any sort of credit.

If the author is fine with it, there's no reason to be up in arms about it. And don't talk to me about ethics, what Clinton did was unethical but he got a pass. So, don't talk to me about ethics, the author's fine with it, he apologized and is revising.

Don't nail Carson to the stake for something he's apologized for and, in all honesty, IS MINOR.

Come on, Clinton has nothing to do with this.

[Draica]

If the author is fine with it, there's no reason to be up in arms about it. And don't talk to me about ethics, what Clinton did was unethical but he got a pass. So, don't talk to me about ethics, the author's fine with it, he apologized and is revising.

Don't nail Carson to the stake for something he's apologized for and, in all honesty, IS MINOR.

Come on, Clinton has nothing to do with this.

Liberals want to talk ethics, let's talk ethics.

[Geilinor]

Come on, Clinton has nothing to do with this.

Liberals want to talk ethics, let's talk ethics.

Appeals to hypocrisy are a logical fallacy. Plagiarism is regarded as something very serious.

[Ashmoria]

Come on, Clinton has nothing to do with this.

Liberals want to talk ethics, let's talk ethics.

its best to stick to Romney in a thread about Romney.

[Rizoshia]

Go for it.

[Draica]

Liberals want to talk ethics, let's talk ethics.

its best to stick to Romney in a thread about Romney.

And romney would be a terrible President and a terrible candidate like last time.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Because regardless of the author's feelings, you're supposed to provide sources for your passages, and it's unethical to pass of the writings of another as your own without any sort of credit.

If the author is fine with it, there's no reason to be up in arms about it. And don't talk to me about ethics, what Clinton did was unethical but he got a pass. So, don't talk to me about ethics, the author's fine with it, he apologized and is revising.

Don't nail Carson to the stake for something he's apologized for and, in all honesty, IS MINOR.

In what universe did Clinton get a pass? He was pilloried 24/7 by the news networks, was the go-to topic for late night comedians, and to this day is the punchline to jokes about interns.

I'm not saying that it's major. I'm just saying that it's an example of incredibly poor judgment and a general lack of understanding how things are supposed to work.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

its best to stick to Romney in a thread about Romney.

And romney would be a terrible President and a terrible candidate like last time.

Well, we agree on something. Want to start a thread about ethics so we can keep sniping?

[Draica]

And romney would be a terrible President and a terrible candidate like last time.

Well, we agree on something. Want to start a thread about ethics so we can keep sniping?

Of course, let's go. I always like a good challenge.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Well, we agree on something. Want to start a thread about ethics so we can keep sniping?

Of course, let's go. I always like a good challenge.

I hope that I can provide you with one. As it's largely been your topic of interest, please feel free to come up with an OP. I'll be there with bells on.

[Republic of Coldwater]

OH HAIL NAW

I would rather see Jon Huntsman as the GOP nominee than this retard again. He has failed the Republicans, and although his campaign was well executed, his lack of true Conservatism, as seen by him building the blueprint to ObamaCare: RomneyCare and his D- rating from the GOA doesn't help his credentials. Perhaps if he would advocate for more competition between healthcare insurers, the repeal of some of the gun laws, and true free markets would the Conservative base be happy and let him draw support from not just Conservatives, but also Libertarians. Sadly, his moderate so called "Conservative" positions and track record would make him a terrible President.

Of course, Cruz and Paul topped the latest GOP polls, which is a good thing.

[Ashmoria]

OH HAIL NAW

I would rather see Jon Huntsman as the GOP nominee than this retard again. He has failed the Republicans, and although his campaign was well executed, his lack of true Conservatism, as seen by him building the blueprint to ObamaCare: RomneyCare and his D- rating from the GOA doesn't help his credentials. Perhaps if he would advocate for more competition between healthcare insurers, the repeal of some of the gun laws, and true free markets would the Conservative base be happy and let him draw support from not just Conservatives, but also Libertarians. Sadly, his moderate so called "Conservative" positions and track record would make him a terrible President.

Of course, Cruz and Paul topped the latest GOP polls, which is a good thing.

jeb bush topped the latest gop polls.

not that that means anything

[Geilinor]

OH HAIL NAW

I would rather see Jon Huntsman as the GOP nominee than this retard again. He has failed the Republicans, and although his campaign was well executed, his lack of true Conservatism, as seen by him building the blueprint to ObamaCare: RomneyCare and his D- rating from the GOA doesn't help his credentials. Perhaps if he would advocate for more competition between healthcare insurers, the repeal of some of the gun laws, and true free markets would the Conservative base be happy and let him draw support from not just Conservatives, but also Libertarians. Sadly, his moderate so called "Conservative" positions and track record would make him a terrible President.

Not happening, even being an ambassador under Obama is a sin to the Republicans.

[Graknopia]

Unsure what this thread has talked about, but I don't think Romney would get Republican love. They seem to want Jeb Bush