French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Ontorisa]

No offence, but what's up with the Francais and les Francophones hating the religious symbols? I mean we have the French who want the Hijab to be banned and we have the Quebecois who passed a bill banning major religious symbols from being worn by public employees.

This is how you piss off religions.

Religions have no right not to be pissed.

Religious people have rights that the State should protect rather than deny or violate.

Oh shit, misworded that. Thanks for it.

Stupid liberal French people, accepting and now surrendering to Algerians. After what I am seeing Western Europe should start a mass deportation of unwanted, irresponsible, criminal immigrants, Arabs are a threat for Europe, not Muslims, only Arabs.

Focus please. Let's keep the debate on religion for now.

And for the surrendering part

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Religion of peace?

Dude, everything was alright before Arabs came to Europe. Turks, Bosnians and Albanians which had some Muslim immigrants integrated pretty well and didn't demand anything. The stubborn Arabs came to Europe, acting like they own it.

[United Marxist Nations]

And then I would suggest execution as the sentence.

Capital punishment is illegal in France. Unless they want to tear up their constitution to get petty revenge.

I'm aware of that. I simply disagree with that.

[The Conez Imperium]

Stupid liberal French people, accepting and now surrendering to Algerians. After what I am seeing Western Europe should start a mass deportation of unwanted, irresponsible, criminal immigrants, Arabs are a threat for Europe, not Muslims, only Arabs.

So now we swap religionism for open racism.

And where does all of Europe deport these Arabs?

[The Carlisle]

Capital punishment is illegal in France. Unless they want to tear up their constitution to get petty revenge.

I'm aware of that. I simply disagree with that.

That's fine. I'm very happy your desires are illegal there.

[Aethrys]

Breaking news: this week a link between religion and horrific brutality, barbarism, and crimes against humanity has once again been discovered. It is expected that this link will be forgotten about shortly, just as it has on on all other occasions.

[MERIZoC]

Capital punishment is illegal in France. Unless they want to tear up their constitution to get petty revenge.

I'm aware of that. I simply disagree with that.

Executions never solve problems.

[The Ruivan Empire]

This is just terrible. How these monsters thinks this is okay is just wrong. My heart goes out to those affected by this barbarity and to the nation of France itself. I am an American but still Vive La France!

[Olerand]

Exactly. It will give fuel to even more terrorism. The real solution is to do like Norway did for example after the Breivik shootings. Show love to the dead and make it remarkable. Drawing muhammad I would not prefer as a muslim, but if everyone just had to draw a man just cuz (I guess when something is like ''illegal'' ((not really)) , it makes it feel better to draw, sort of like when something is illegal people become more tempted to do that thing)) I would prefer him properly drawn yes.

You don't even have to cherry pick verses. Actually, if you posted a whole sura which contains violence, you could show people that violence is only allowed as self defence, and never ever is act of violence encouraged for anything else than self defence.

We certainly don't care. The hundreds of thousands protesting in France right now aren't doing it out of fear of more. It's defiance.

The debate raging on under the "Not in my name" hashtag on Twitter kind of diminished your claim, doesn't it? Riveting to see people debate the validity of capital punishment for lines on paper.

[United Marxist Nations]

I'm aware of that. I simply disagree with that.

Executions never solve problems.

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

[MERIZoC]

Executions never solve problems.

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

I had the "Je Suis Charlie" flag. The mods got rid of it. I'm keeping the default until I get an answer as to why.

[Edgy Opinions]

The idea originated amongst the Anglo-Saxon New Left, it has propagated since. It also exists in France, albeit in consistently fewer minds.

We don't have slaves or indigenous peoples. We have immigrants. They must integrate. I don't care about Brazil, America, Peru, or China.

But immigrants aren't just null faces of void! They come with an already preset power relationship with the population of the host nation.

There's still the notion of European cultures being ideal/superior in such sentiment, which is historical and common to the historical Christendom, from which we benefit from, that creates a power hierarchy in relation to the cultures of the colonized, that are still oppressed under the racial superstructure, and both mingle, as they never stopped doing.

People have the duty to follow the law. Full stop.

[Kaitjan]

Fucking assimilate to European society! Its fucking enough!

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

So now we swap religionism for open racism.

And where does all of Europe deport these Arabs?

They should start to. Arabs are a regressive, primitive people, It has nothing to do with religion.

[MERIZoC]

Executions never solve problems.

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

As for ending problems, so does life in prison. And it's much less satisfactory for extremists who wanted to be killed anyway.

[United Marxist Nations]

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

I had the "Je Suis Charlie" flag. The mods got rid of it. I'm keeping the default until I get an answer as to why.

Odd of them to do that. Possible that they didn't look at it closely, and assumed the Black & White was the... you know which flag.

[United Marxist Nations]

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

As for ending problems, so does life in prison. And it's much less satisfactory for extremists who wanted to be killed anyway.

Fair point.

[The Social Justice Warrior]

Religion of peace?

Dude, everything was alright before Arabs came to Europe.

no wars or conflict before arabs came to europe.

you heard it here.

[MERIZoC]

I had the "Je Suis Charlie" flag. The mods got rid of it. I'm keeping the default until I get an answer as to why.

Odd of them to do that. Possible that they didn't look at it closely, and assumed the Black & White was the... you know which flag.

The ISIS flag?

[Papait]

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

Did Muhammad birth you? If so, then you should tell someone. Muhammad, a man, has committed two miracles that day, coming back from death and giving birth.

As for your question, ultimately indifferent. It is, after all, a cartoon. Calling my mother a low-class prostitute also won't make me want to kill you, as if my mother were ever a prostitute, she certainly wouldn't be cheap.

To many people Muhammed is more important than their mother. Because he is the prophet of the God that created not only them, but everything around them that they love

[The Conez Imperium]

They just end them. Also, why is your flag the default one, only in low res?

As for ending problems, so does life in prison. And it's much less satisfactory for extremists who wanted to be killed anyway.

If we take them alive, perhaps we can bargain with them to exchange hostages. If French national policy permits that.

[Edgy Opinions]

So now we swap religionism for open racism.

Actually there are a lot Albanians and Bosnians who are angry of always being associated with Arabs (Buse).

Which proves one's point that Islamophobia has a lot to do with white supremacy.

[Ontorisa]

Religion of peace?

Dude, everything was alright before Arabs came to Europe. Turks, Bosnians and Albanians which had some Muslim immigrants integrated pretty well and didn't demand anything. The stubborn Arabs came to Europe, acting like they own it.

Stopstopstopstopstop right there and hold the fuck up before you continue sir.

First of all, everything was not alright before the Arabs immigrated to Europe. It was still a political and national hotpot in Eastern Europe and pretty liberal in Western Europe (except for the Basque nationalists). The Arabs immigrated into Europe for asylum, escaping turmoil in countries such as Syria, the Gaza Strip (I believe, not sure, someone grab a source for me please if this happened), Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and many other places that are "politically unstable".

In order to properly construct a good argument, you need to remove your emotion from it (enough so that you aren't insulting a party that is involved in the debate. Debating 101). Right now, unfortunately, you're doing the opposite, insulting and ranting on about how bad the Arabs are. Please, if you are going to do that, just stop, please. It is not helping the discussion of this despicable and cowardly attack on satirical journalists and their superiors as well as the French National Police.

Thanks.

[Pied Noirs]

So now we swap religionism for open racism.

And where does all of Europe deport these Arabs?

Presumably send them back to where they came from.

[Rio Cana]

I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

Civilized people do not do that. Instead, they send them to French Guiana. Or they use too.

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