French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Alyakia]

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

According to the convention of Geneva on this issue, you are wrong. You have no legal basis for your argument. Well, that was quick.

geneva conventions don't apply though?

[Dain II Ironfoot]

I'm sorry for those that died but such things show that freedom of speech means nothing without respect for one another.

[Edgy Opinions]

If I ever move to Algeria, you can bet as hell I will act as an Algerian.

That's ridiculous, cultures don't have the right to exert such power.

I'd always defend the rights of a person who's being mocked for doing something common to their country in the Andes, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa or Asia that is perfectly legal here to be respected and raise their children as they see fit, as long as it isn't a campaign to disregard Brazilians as inferior for whatever is acceptable to us.

[United Marxist Nations]

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

According to the convention of Geneva on this issue, you are wrong. You have no legal basis for your argument. Well, that was quick.

Where does the GC ban executing war criminals? Doing so has been done before.

[Edgy Opinions]

So we should leave France. All 60 million of us? Oh, will you pay for our plane tickets, please sir?

I'm sure people still nominally have the right to segregate themselves by migrating inside the country.

[Olerand]

What do you guys think about people drawing Muhammad as sort of a revenge and showing support to the journalists?

Im a muslim my self and its quite sad to see people offending me and my religion for the sake of shitting on the extremists. Whenever I see a painting of Muhammad, I feel offended, and im not an easy person to offend. Not because it's racists posting it, because that shit im used to, but your everyday person posting that to insult us muslims.

I mean, I get that you guys ask, why not draw them? Im just saying, why do that? Don't you have 9 billion others things to draw? Why draw something that offends people unnecessarily? Just my point of view tho. If you want to insult the terrorists, make charicatures degrading ISIS and terrorists, no need to fuck rest of us over. I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?

I want all French newspapers to publish Charlie's most notorious drawings tomorrow, instead of that pathetic black "Je suis Charlie" bullshit.

It breaks my heart. Like the Catholics, Jews, Capitalists, Socialists, Communists of the world, you are most welcome to deal with it.

Because drawing Jesus and the Buddha and Moses and Abraham partying and doing coke, and not drawing Mohammad, is something we don't like?

[Papait]

I don't support the attack.
But making a cartoon of muhammed(which i think is disrespectfull, just like drawing a cartoon of any religious character) is like climbing the mount everest.
You are doing nothing wrong, but you do consiously put yourself in danger

Do you know how insulting to Muslims it actually is to compare them to wild animals, natural disasters or other dangerous situations?

I do not refer to Muslims. I refer to terrorism, in any kind. You have the right to do something that extremists may react to, but you take a risk

[Baltenstein]

What do you guys think about people drawing Muhammad as sort of a revenge and showing support to the journalists?

Im a muslim my self and its quite sad to see people offending me and my religion for the sake of shitting on the extremists. Whenever I see a painting of Muhammad, I feel offended, and im not an easy person to offend. Not because it's racists posting it, because that shit im used to, but your everyday person posting that to insult us muslims.

I mean, I get that you guys ask, why not draw them? Im just saying, why do that? Don't you have 9 billion others things to draw? Why draw something that offends people unnecessarily? Just my point of view tho. If you want to insult the terrorists, make charicatures degrading ISIS and terrorists, no need to fuck rest of us over. I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?

Charlie Hebdo is an equal opportunity offender. They have repeatedly satirized other faiths, countries and groups as well. The Front National and Marine Le Pen are some of their favorite targets. The racism accusation is hardly valid.

[Risottia]

I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

[Olerand]

If I ever move to Algeria, you can bet as hell I will act as an Algerian.

That's ridiculous, cultures don't have the right to exert such power.

I'd always defend the rights of a person who's being mocked for doing something common to their country in the Andes, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa or Asia that is perfectly legal here to be respected and raise their children as they see fit, as long as it isn't a campaign to disregard Brazilians as inferior for whatever is acceptable to us.

We certainly do. Hell, new immigrants to France must sign a contract with the State promising to integrate, and are refused citizenship if they don't. We. Most. Certainly. Do.

Sorry cultural relativism isn't popular outside the quaint world-views of the Anglo-Saxon lefties.

[Papait]

I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

[Olerand]

So we should leave France. All 60 million of us? Oh, will you pay for our plane tickets, please sir?

I'm sure people still nominally have the right to segregate themselves by migrating inside the country.

Thank you for your kind suggestion. We won't heed it, but thank you anyway.

[The Carlisle]

Nevermind. I get that some people think brutally murdering criminals is just fine and dandy.

I don't.

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

So.... international criminals... of terrorism...

Also, I was more triggered by the "lining them up, shooting them, and dumping their bodies in the river". In fact, you never stated at all about combat, which I'm fine with if they fire first.

Of course, anyone who goes out killing these men out on the street is a murderer. Unless you want vigilantes and mob justice to rule this day. I want France to track and arrest these men and put them on trial, not shoot them on the streets.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

I myself would probably laugh at it and not care.

[Salandriagado]

If French people want to be away from Islam and Muslims so bad, there are always places where their migration or immigration is really welcomed.

Now, now, people from other places might their customs strange too. Perhaps these people are actually rather primitive in their own ways, and are just really lucky to not be Muslim, or else they'd be stereotyped as barbarian intolerant sandpeople.

So we should leave France. All 60 million of us? Oh, will you pay for our plane tickets, please sir?

Nope. Just those of you that don't wish to live in modern society.

[The Conez Imperium]

Oh my gosh, Reddit is awash with xenophobic, islamiphobic, racist, ignorant, over-generalisation statements about this. I hope that this event does not fuel the increasing fire of "Islamiphobia".

[Olerand]

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

Did Muhammad birth you? If so, then you should tell someone. Muhammad, a man, has committed two miracles that day, coming back from death and giving birth.

As for your question, ultimately indifferent. It is, after all, a cartoon. Calling my mother a low-class prostitute also won't make me want to kill you, as if my mother were ever a prostitute, she certainly wouldn't be cheap.

[Papait]

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

So.... international criminals... of terrorism...

Also, I was more triggered by the "lining them up, shooting them, and dumping their bodies in the river". In fact, you never stated at all about combat, which I'm fine with if they fire first.

Of course, anyone who goes out killing these men out on the street is a murderer. Unless you want vigilantes and mob justice to rule this day. I want France to track and arrest these men and put them on trial, not shoot them on the streets.

Any french soldier has the right to execute them if they manage to capture them.

[United Marxist Nations]

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

So.... international criminals... of terrorism...

Also, I was more triggered by the "lining them up, shooting them, and dumping their bodies in the river". In fact, you never stated at all about combat, which I'm fine with if they fire first.

Of course, anyone who goes out killing these men out on the street is a murderer. Unless you want vigilantes and mob justice to rule this day. I want France to track and arrest these men and put them on trial, not shoot them on the streets.

I said "stopping them, shooting them", I never said lining them up was a prerequisite.

Logic would suggest they will not allow themselves to be captured.

[Talvezout]

What do you guys think about people drawing Muhammad as sort of a revenge and showing support to the journalists?

Im a muslim my self and its quite sad to see people offending me and my religion for the sake of shitting on the extremists. Whenever I see a painting of Muhammad, I feel offended, and im not an easy person to offend. Not because it's racists posting it, because that shit im used to, but your everyday person posting that to insult us muslims.

I mean, I get that you guys ask, why not draw them? Im just saying, why do that? Don't you have 9 billion others things to draw? Why draw something that offends people unnecessarily? Just my point of view tho. If you want to insult the terrorists, make charicatures degrading ISIS and terrorists, no need to fuck rest of us over. I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?

Free speech gets violated or something if they can't draw what they want. I just have to say this: the problem with just drawing more and more cartoons of Muhammed in rather derogatory situation give the extremists more fuel for their attacks by saying "Look! Those dirty Western infidel/scum/pigs are disrespecting our dear prophet!" It just doesn't work out. And if we have to draw Muhammed, can't we just draw him in scenes of him doing good and cherry-pick verses from the Qur'an that support the goodwill?

Just my 2 cents/1/8 riyal.

[Ontorisa]

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

I'm fine with that.

I mean apparently I have 50 dads I never knew about on Xbox Live.

[Salandriagado]

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

Fine. I, and she, would probably laugh, if it was a halfway decent joke.

[Olerand]

So we should leave France. All 60 million of us? Oh, will you pay for our plane tickets, please sir?

Nope. Just those of you that don't wish to live in modern society.

How quaint. And yet, I am not of those 70% of French polled who want to ban the hijab in public. So counting them, and people like me, that gives you......Uhm....Probably 80~90% of ethnic French. Lots of people.

[United Marxist Nations]

No.
Because satirising a religious figure isn't racism.

How would you feel if a drew an offensive cartoon of your mother?

You do realize that making fun of other people's mothers is basically a tradition, right?

Fuck, I can't even count the number of times my friends and I have done that.

[Pied Noirs]

They're going to destroy our culture or die trying. Let's make sure it's the latter.