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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:27 pm

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I'm not sure what I prefer:

That those three guys get to meet their 72 virigns over the next 24 hours, or that they are properly arrested and tried before the eyes of the world.
Probably the latter.

No. Considering most French jails are either new and comfortable, or old with Facebook accounts depicting the sweet life inside(literally happened), I don't want them there for life.

I would rather they find their virgins. But we can't do it. Unfortunately.


I think the biggest worry would be them trying to get their virgins on their own terms. If they can lay their hands on this kind of weaponry then explosives aren't beyond the pale....

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Postby Ontorisa » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:27 pm

Olerand wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Hey, now, the more we confirm it as an identity issue, the more we pave ground to what they want.

You're right. They did it because today's croissants were absolutely atrocious in their favorite bakery in Seine-Saint-Denis.

Absolutely atrocious it was today. Terrible. Soggy and tasted of uncooked eggs.


It's a horrendous way to politely ask people to stop poking fun at your religious idol. If anything, these guys just pissed a shit ton of Francais off.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:28 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
I'm not sure what I prefer:

That those three guys get to meet their 72 virigns over the next 24 hours, or that they are properly arrested and tried before the eyes of the world.
Probably the latter.

Pictured: their 72 Virgins.

I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:29 pm

Risottia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Pictured: their 72 Virgins.

I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:30 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Pictured: their 72 Virgins.

I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

Icing on the cake.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:30 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Risottia wrote:I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:30 pm

Olerand wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Hey, now, the more we confirm it as an identity issue, the more we pave ground to what they want.

You're right. They did it because today's croissants were absolutely atrocious in their favorite bakery in Seine-Saint-Denis.

Absolutely atrocious it was today. Terrible. Soggy and tasted of uncooked eggs.

You're forced to coexist with that situation now and must plaster yourself a face of hypocrisy even when you feel it shouldn't be done. It really can't be helped.

There's always the countryside or the other continents, though.

Just remember to not kiss other men on the cheeks when close to our heteros because they will be ridiculous and make stupid jokes based on stereotypes. I'm sure we would be labeled just as primitive if we had the mischance of having a different traditional religion...
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:31 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Risottia wrote:I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

You polluter.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:31 pm

Risottia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

You polluter.

That's true, maybe we should donate the bodies to science, since that's something they would clearly oppose.
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Postby Papait » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:32 pm

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Papait wrote:While i deeply mourn these deaths.
The cartoonists took a risk mocking Muhammed, knowing there are extremists out there capable of violence, and they paid a price, as well as those around them


Well there is an argument for why we need freedom of the press.

Nice tacit support of the attack there too.


I don't support the attack.
But making a cartoon of muhammed(which i think is disrespectfull, just like drawing a cartoon of any religious character) is like climbing the mount everest.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:32 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Risottia wrote:I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

Finally we show these Frenchies the Guanabara Bay can be cleaner!
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:32 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I would love that as well, but personally, I'm more a fan of stopping them, shooting them, and dumping the bodies into the River Seine.

Jesus fucking christ

Yes?
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:33 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Olerand wrote:You're right. They did it because today's croissants were absolutely atrocious in their favorite bakery in Seine-Saint-Denis.

Absolutely atrocious it was today. Terrible. Soggy and tasted of uncooked eggs.

You're forced to coexist with that situation now and must plaster yourself a face of hypocrisy even when you feel it shouldn't be done. It really can't be helped.

There's always the countryside or the other continents, though.

Just remember to not kiss other men on the cheeks when close to our heteros because they will be ridiculous and make stupid jokes based on stereotypes. I'm sure we would be labeled just as primitive if we had the mischance of having a different traditional religion...


Erm...what?
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:33 pm

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Empire of Narnia wrote:This is like some real life Grand Theft Auto shit.

That statement you pulled out of your ass is absolutely vile and disgusting.
Ignored.

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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:33 pm

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The Carlisle wrote:Jesus fucking christ

Yes?

Nevermind. I get that some people think brutally murdering criminals is just fine and dandy.

I don't.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:34 pm

Papait wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well there is an argument for why we need freedom of the press.

Nice tacit support of the attack there too.


I don't support the attack.
But making a cartoon of muhammed(which i think is disrespectfull, just like drawing a cartoon of any religious character) is like climbing the mount everest.
You are doing nothing wrong, but you do consiously put yourself in danger


Do you know how insulting to Muslims it actually is to compare them to wild animals, natural disasters or other dangerous situations?
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:34 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:I think the biggest worry would be them trying to get their virgins on their own terms. If they can lay their hands on this kind of weaponry then explosives aren't beyond the pale....

If they were going to blow themselves up, they would have already done it. They've had plenty of time as the French police/intelligence agencies try to pull up their pants and act like they were/are doing something.

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Olerand wrote:You're right. They did it because today's croissants were absolutely atrocious in their favorite bakery in Seine-Saint-Denis.

Absolutely atrocious it was today. Terrible. Soggy and tasted of uncooked eggs.


It's a horrendous way to politely ask people to stop poking fun at your religious idol. If anything, these guys just pissed a shit ton of Francais off.

They certainly have.

This should at least silence the "pas d'amalgame" brigade that was out in force during the Christmas attacks.
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I expect we will wake up tomorrow to calls of "they are not Muslims!"
Conspiracy theories should prop up over the next few months in the banlieues of who really committed the attacks. I predict 3 Jews(Mossad). Or maybe CIA agents.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:34 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Olerand wrote:No. Considering most French jails are either new and comfortable, or old with Facebook accounts depicting the sweet life inside(literally happened), I don't want them there for life.

I would rather they find their virgins. But we can't do it. Unfortunately.


I think the biggest worry would be them trying to get their virgins on their own terms. If they can lay their hands on this kind of weaponry then explosives aren't beyond the pale....

A minority of terrorist incidents are suicide bombings.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:35 pm

Baltenstein wrote:Erm...what?

If French people want to be away from Islam and Muslims so bad, there are always places where their migration or immigration is really welcomed.

Now, now, people from other places might their customs strange too. Perhaps these people are actually rather primitive in their own ways, and are just really lucky to not be Muslim, or else they'd be stereotyped as barbarian intolerant sandpeople.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:36 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:Yes?

Nevermind. I get that some people think brutally murdering criminals is just fine and dandy.

I don't.

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:39 pm

Risottia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Pictured: their 72 Virgins.

I'd love the getting tried, and the French Islamic communities suing them for damages to the reputation of Muslims.

Right after the protests they called for manifest themselves. Somewhere. Maybe they can march with the parties of the left on Saturday. I expect their presence and number will be sorely appreciated.

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Olerand wrote:You're right. They did it because today's croissants were absolutely atrocious in their favorite bakery in Seine-Saint-Denis.

Absolutely atrocious it was today. Terrible. Soggy and tasted of uncooked eggs.

You're forced to coexist with that situation now and must plaster yourself a face of hypocrisy even when you feel it shouldn't be done. It really can't be helped.

There's always the countryside or the other continents, though.

Just remember to not kiss other men on the cheeks when close to our heteros because they will be ridiculous and make stupid jokes based on stereotypes. I'm sure we would be labeled just as primitive if we had the mischance of having a different traditional religion...

If I ever move to Algeria, you can bet as hell I will act as an Algerian.
Papait wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well there is an argument for why we need freedom of the press.

Nice tacit support of the attack there too.


I don't support the attack.
But making a cartoon of muhammed(which i think is disrespectfull, just like drawing a cartoon of any religious character) is like climbing the mount everest.
You are doing nothing wrong, but you do consiously put yourself in danger

You're right. Voice an opinion, expect death. It is the natural progression of things in France 2015, isn't it?
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Postby Olerand » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:40 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:Erm...what?

If French people want to be away from Islam and Muslims so bad, there are always places where their migration or immigration is really welcomed.

Now, now, people from other places might their customs strange too. Perhaps these people are actually rather primitive in their own ways, and are just really lucky to not be Muslim, or else they'd be stereotyped as barbarian intolerant sandpeople.

So we should leave France. All 60 million of us? Oh, will you pay for our plane tickets, please sir?
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:41 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Nevermind. I get that some people think brutally murdering criminals is just fine and dandy.

I don't.

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.

War regulations don't apply to them. They didn't carry any identification sign. They're bandits.
Anyway, be they bandits or soldiers, if they shoot back at the police they can be shot. Ofc capturing them alive would be better, and then trying them as bandits.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:41 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Nevermind. I get that some people think brutally murdering criminals is just fine and dandy.

I don't.

They are not criminals, they are enemy combatants who have committed war crimes by directly targeting the civilian population of the belligerent power, and are currently evading capture. This is grounds for execution, or killing in combat. And no, shooting them would not be "brutally murdering them", as we should make sure that it doesn't take long.
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Postby Ereria » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:42 pm

What do you guys think about people drawing Muhammad as sort of a revenge and showing support to the journalists?

Im a muslim my self and its quite sad to see people offending me and my religion for the sake of shitting on the extremists. Whenever I see a painting of Muhammad, I feel offended, and im not an easy person to offend. Not because it's racists posting it, because that shit im used to, but your everyday person posting that to insult us muslims.

I mean, I get that you guys ask, why not draw them? Im just saying, why do that? Don't you have 9 billion others things to draw? Why draw something that offends people unnecessarily? Just my point of view tho. If you want to insult the terrorists, make charicatures degrading ISIS and terrorists, no need to fuck rest of us over. I hate them as much as the next person, but I can't stand the casual racism you feel me?
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