French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Geilinor]

Or a fair trial according to their countries laws (possibly trial in other courts if their home country can't be trusted with a fair trial or has the death penalty), imprisonment, and rehabilitation.

But that's just too hard of a concept for some people to get. Nope! March them through the desert. Totes not reminiscent of a certain genocide!

How cute! Why not counseling. Send them their welfare dues to Iraq and Syria too. Like Denmark is doing. These people are misunderstood! Oppressed!

When the government finds a way to strip their citizenship, France can leave them in Iraq and Syria.

[Olerand]

Revealing State interests isn't really getting shot for drawing Muhammad. Odd you can't see that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel

Wish isn't the case you presented me with. That man was imprisoned for revealing State secrets.

[The Carlisle]

Or a fair trial according to their countries laws (possibly trial in other courts if their home country can't be trusted with a fair trial or has the death penalty), imprisonment, and rehabilitation.

But that's just too hard of a concept for some people to get. Nope! March them through the desert. Totes not reminiscent of a certain genocide!

How cute! Why not counseling. Send them their welfare dues to Iraq and Syria too. Like Denmark is doing. These people are misunderstood! Oppressed!

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

[Edgy Opinions]

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

I'm sure ISIL fighters offer that too. *nods*

[Imperializt Russia]

How cute! Why not counseling. Send them their welfare dues to Iraq and Syria too. Like Denmark is doing. These people are misunderstood! Oppressed!

When the government finds a way to strip their citizenship, France can leave them in Iraq and Syria.

Is France signatory on the commitment to prevent statelessness?

[The Carlisle]

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

I'm sure ISIL fighters offer that too. *nods*

So?

Is ISIS made up of humans?

[Aelex]

They're not Americans, I'm sure you understand that as French citizens, France has to deal with them. It's your problem because France made them citizens.

We didn't make them citizens, I'm sure they were born citizens.

And I know, fully. Wishes are often, in fact, fantastical.

Indeed, and most of the Djihadists are new converted, not kids born from immigrants parents... But what was the proverbe? "Les nouveaux convertis sont toujours les plus zélés?" (The new converted are always the most zealous), still, that's quite sad...

[Cyrisnia]

"OHHHHH YES! THE HATE!" "Omar, quit it or we'll send your ass to Kobani."

"Let him enjoy it... at least it's taking his mind off Anal Jihad."

Its back.

[Olerand]

Thankfully, Charlie mocked both. Even more, in no country on Earth can Christianity or Judaism apply their repugnant beliefs too.

Can one say the same of Islam?

You don't think Christianity and Judaism can apply their repugnant scriptures in society?

Cough, Israel (Judaism) Cough USA (Christianity)

So yes. I can say that they all apply repugnant social beliefs in different countries, but we don't go around bashing Christianity as part of mainstream political dialogue do we, and woe betide anybody who dares criticise the mighty Israel, in America anyway.

Where are people dying at the hands of Christians for using the Lord's name in vain?

In Israel? America? Dang. I didn't hear about it. It sounds like big news however. In fact, I don't recall anyone dying for sodomy in either nations too. Or usury in America. Or wearing clothes of two fibers. Hum.

No, we do. Maybe you don't in America, being the only overwhelmingly religious developed nation on Earth, whose politicians swear by the Bible, but we do. The developed, historically Christian world extends beyond America.

[Edgy Opinions]

I'm sure ISIL fighters offer that too. *nods*

So?

Is ISIS made up of humans?

It's an ideological war, the West went against human rights conventions to get stuff done various times in the past and it's not going to stop now, this would actually be for a good reason.

[Aelex]

How cute! Why not counseling. Send them their welfare dues to Iraq and Syria too. Like Denmark is doing. These people are misunderstood! Oppressed!

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

Are you trying to reason and be fair with people who go kill and rape people for helping a crypto-state to establish itself and be able to oppress more people?
Well, if you are, you're quite stupid. People who have done that already have loose their humanity and should loose their citizenship too.

[The Carlisle]

So?

Is ISIS made up of humans?

It's an ideological war, the West went against human rights conventions to get stuff done various times in the past and it's not going to stop now, this would actually be for a good reason.

Answer the fucking question.

[Imperializt Russia]

So?

Is ISIS made up of humans?

It's an ideological war, the West went against human rights conventions to get stuff done various times in the past and it's not going to stop now, this would actually be for a good reason.

Justifying the removal of people's human rights will not end well.

[Olerand]

We didn't make them citizens, I'm sure they were born citizens.

And I know, fully. Wishes are often, in fact, fantastical.

Indeed, and most of the Djihadists are new converted, not kids born from immigrants parents... But what was the proverbe? "Les nouveaux convertis sont toujours les plus zélés?" (The new converted are always the most zealous), still, that's quite sad...

I'd put those idiots at about 20~35% of them. The rest are the descendants of immigrants. For whatever goddamn reason, they are more fanatical than their parents could have ever imagined.

When the government finds a way to strip their citizenship, France can leave them in Iraq and Syria.

Is France signatory on the commitment to prevent statelessness?

Yes.

How cute! Why not counseling. Send them their welfare dues to Iraq and Syria too. Like Denmark is doing. These people are misunderstood! Oppressed!

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

And they will certainly get that in America too. With the added benefit of reaching their much vaunted martyr-ism too.

[The Huskar Social Union]

What an absolute tragedy, bloody hell.

[Aelex]

It's an ideological war, the West went against human rights conventions to get stuff done various times in the past and it's not going to stop now, this would actually be for a good reason.

Answer the fucking question.

Isis is made of a bunch of humans, all as disgusting as the organizating their serving. Are you happy now?

[Edgy Opinions]

Where are people dying at the hands of Christians for using the Lord's name in vain?

In Israel? America? Dang. I didn't hear about it. It sounds like big news however. In fact, I don't recall anyone dying for sodomy in either nations too. Or usury in America. Or wearing clothes of two fibers. Hum.

No, we do. Maybe you don't in America, being the only overwhelmingly religious developed nation on Earth, whose politicians swear by the Bible, but we do. The developed, historically Christian world extends beyond America.

Let's not forget all American and Pacific Islander nations, plus a plurality or majority of African nations, are also historically Christian-majority and social conservatism is legislated in its name here too.

[True American States]

From eye witness reports these guys were trained as shit. They had a system and a plan this wasn't a suicide spray and pray mass shooting. Eye witnesses makes this sound like it came from a Tom Clancy novel!

Well, they just go, kill people and then fleed. You don't have to be a genius to do so...
They just don't wake up a morning and sayed, "Imma gonna kill unbelievers today!", they made up a plan, that's all...

They knew who to hit, when to hit, and how to get away. They are the 1% of Terrorists who successfully pull off what's basically assassinations in a 1st World Country whose supposedly experts in Counter-Terrorism. This was a random knee jerk shooting. This is some Terror Cell shit.

[The Carlisle]

Indeed, and most of the Djihadists are new converted, not kids born from immigrants parents... But what was the proverbe? "Les nouveaux convertis sont toujours les plus zélés?" (The new converted are always the most zealous), still, that's quite sad...

I'd put those idiots at about 20~35% of them. The rest are the descendants of immigrants. For whatever goddamn reason, they are more fanatical than their parents could have ever imagined.

Is France signatory on the commitment to prevent statelessness?

Yes.

If you find fair trial, rule of law, and humane treatment something worth mockery then.... I have nothing to say

And they will certainly get that in America too. With the added benefit of reaching their much vaunted martyr-ism too.

They're French. They either go to French courts or the ICC.

[Ontorisa]

Viva la France!

Although I'm not a French national and do not posses any French heritage, it's simply terrible of what has just happened with the Charlie Hebdo situation. Disgusting even, an attempt at censoring a magazine that satires everything, and I mean everything. This will backfire on whoever is responsible, if anything, it will cause more satires and jokes directed to Islam. If the protests and attacks on the Danes earlier did not deter the cartoons and jokes, then this will just make the pride and freedom of press stronger, if that makes any sense.

Repulsive and cowardly, seriously.

[Geilinor]

You don't think Christianity and Judaism can apply their repugnant scriptures in society?

Cough, Israel (Judaism) Cough USA (Christianity)

So yes. I can say that they all apply repugnant social beliefs in different countries, but we don't go around bashing Christianity as part of mainstream political dialogue do we, and woe betide anybody who dares criticise the mighty Israel, in America anyway.

Where are people dying at the hands of Christians for using the Lord's name in vain?

In Israel? America? Dang. I didn't hear about it. It sounds like big news however. In fact, I don't recall anyone dying for sodomy in either nations too. Or usury in America. Or wearing clothes of two fibers. Hum.

No, we do. Maybe you don't in America, being the only overwhelmingly religious developed nation on Earth, whose politicians swear by the Bible, but we do. The developed, historically Christian world extends beyond America.

Politicians are not required to swear by the Bible.

[Aelex]

I'd put those idiots at about 20~35% of them. The rest are the descendants of immigrants. For whatever goddamn reason, they are more fanatical than their parents could have ever imagined.

I'll say, personnaly, that we're not as fanatical in our education of citizenship as before... I do miss a lot the good old "Nos Ancêtres les Gaulois"...

[Aelex]

They're French. They either go to French courts or the ICC.

Not anymore.

[The Carlisle]

They're French. They either go to French courts or the ICC.

Not anymore.

Who said so?

[Imperializt Russia]

Where are people dying at the hands of Christians for using the Lord's name in vain?

In Israel? America? Dang. I didn't hear about it. It sounds like big news however. In fact, I don't recall anyone dying for sodomy in either nations too. Or usury in America. Or wearing clothes of two fibers. Hum.

No, we do. Maybe you don't in America, being the only overwhelmingly religious developed nation on Earth, whose politicians swear by the Bible, but we do. The developed, historically Christian world extends beyond America.

Politicians are not required to swear by the Bible.

Maybe not.

I find it more concerning that American politicians will quote bible passages to indicate their opinion on matters of national policy far more disturbing than if they were required to swear on the bible.